Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair
Yeah, I knew it was one of you wizards Thanks Joe. Guess maybe I shoulda bought the alignment tool. At 10:27 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote: I may have posted a relevant link to Spud's website, Loren, but I've not yet gone there myself. Try this: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/ -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair
I may have posted a relevant link to Spud's website, Loren, but I've not yet gone there myself. Try this: http://www.w124performance.com/images/W124_sunroof/ -joe
Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair
Herr Doktor, I'm honored that you think I am more than a mere mortal, but, I am a mere mortal. I've forgotten so much stuff about MBs because many things I do only once or twice. I make lots of mistakes and I ask lots of dumb questions about these newer cars, because I am still learning about 124s and 126s and even some 123 stuff. (yes these are all newer models to me) And they break less often than the 110/111s At 08:28 AM 6/4/2007, you wrote: An advanced DIYer (you and Joe ARE that) can do it and often make only a few or no mistakes the first time. Mere mortals are MUCH more likely to turn a small problem into a BIG problem. Marshall Loren Faeth wrote: > Herr Doktor Booth! > > Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof! I > just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how > it all was put together. While I was in there, I touched up the > paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had > pried the roof up with screwdrivers. I had a little trouble getting > the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second > try, I got both sides. It took a couple of tries loosening and > tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to > open and close right. When it is put down from the tilt-up position, > it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned > to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more. I tried to > figger out an adjustment for that, but never did. At least I can > close it now during a rainstorm! The forward-back operations of the > switch work fine. While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it > also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it. > > I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the > CD. Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure > about tackling this one. I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY, > since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on > older cars. I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were > removed and replaced if they were broken. I tried to figure out how > to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a > while, because I was running out of time. > > Joe, have you ever done that job? I got the trim strip off the > front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector > out enough to change the springs. and one of the "springs" MB sent > me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper! Part# looked right, and the > description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch > dia in the bag. I got it apart enough to determine the spring they > sent, was ok anyway. > > Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier > new ones. Was it Joe Knight? So, I figured I could probably figure > out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least. > > Loren > Lotsa Benzes > > > At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote: >> The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to >> maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to >> maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the >> manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof. >> >> Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] tilt sunroof repair
An advanced DIYer (you and Joe ARE that) can do it and often make only a few or no mistakes the first time. Mere mortals are MUCH more likely to turn a small problem into a BIG problem. Marshall Loren Faeth wrote: Herr Doktor Booth! Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof! I just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how it all was put together. While I was in there, I touched up the paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had pried the roof up with screwdrivers. I had a little trouble getting the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second try, I got both sides. It took a couple of tries loosening and tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to open and close right. When it is put down from the tilt-up position, it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more. I tried to figger out an adjustment for that, but never did. At least I can close it now during a rainstorm! The forward-back operations of the switch work fine. While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it. I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the CD. Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure about tackling this one. I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY, since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on older cars. I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were removed and replaced if they were broken. I tried to figure out how to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a while, because I was running out of time. Joe, have you ever done that job? I got the trim strip off the front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector out enough to change the springs. and one of the "springs" MB sent me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper! Part# looked right, and the description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch dia in the bag. I got it apart enough to determine the spring they sent, was ok anyway. Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier new ones. Was it Joe Knight? So, I figured I could probably figure out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least. Loren Lotsa Benzes At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote: The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[MBZ] tilt sunroof repair
Herr Doktor Booth! Now you tell me ordinary mortals can't work on a tilt sunroof! I just took a 124 roof all apart, replaced the cable and explored how it all was put together. While I was in there, I touched up the paint around the hole in the roof where it looked like someone had pried the roof up with screwdrivers. I had a little trouble getting the headliner panel back in place on the lift sliders, but the second try, I got both sides. It took a couple of tries loosening and tightening the nuts that hold the lid to the tilt-frame to get it to open and close right. When it is put down from the tilt-up position, it goes past level if you hold the switch down. I have just learned to hold the switch down until it is closed, but no more. I tried to figger out an adjustment for that, but never did. At least I can close it now during a rainstorm! The forward-back operations of the switch work fine. While I had the headliner panel out, I cleaned it also, because it had a lot of fingerprints on it. I guess I am lucky i never tried to read the sunroof stuff on the CD. Since I never worked on a sunroof before, I was not too sure about tackling this one. I guess I'd call myself an advanced DIY, since I have done a few engines and a trans and most other stuff on older cars. I did not quite figure out how the lift slides were removed and replaced if they were broken. I tried to figure out how to change the springs on the wind deflector, but gave up after a while, because I was running out of time. Joe, have you ever done that job? I got the trim strip off the front, but didn't figure out the secret of getting the wind deflector out enough to change the springs. and one of the "springs" MB sent me (via Rusty) was a rubber bumper! Part# looked right, and the description was "spring" but it was a rubber bumper about 3/4 inch dia in the bag. I got it apart enough to determine the spring they sent, was ok anyway. Someone on the list wrote about changing the slides with the beefier new ones. Was it Joe Knight? So, I figured I could probably figure out how to replace the cable, and clean and lube the sunroof at least. Loren Lotsa Benzes At 10:13 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote: The old sliding roof was well within the ability of the average DIYer to maintain. It takes a VERY advanced DIYer or very knowledgeable pro to maintain the tilt roof. Most people will NOT succeed by reading the manual and tacking most problems with the tilt roof. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Faeth
