Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
This exact thing happened to me back in 2005. Overheated on the nj turnpike with my sailboat on the roof. Pulled over and v low coolant! No visible leaks. Did it at long intervals until monovalve was replaced. Head seemed to survive but one could easily have cooked it on the freeway listening to radio for hours. On Dec 23, 2014 11:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
This is precisely what was going on with the three Chinese monovalves. Sometimes they would work ok, other times no heat or or full heat with no rhyme or reason. Once the coolant gets on the wrong side of the diaphragm under pressure, it will not work correctly. On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:48 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The failing monovalve, before it's totally defunct, may choose to work fairly well at times. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines! --R On 12/24/14 11:05 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
They are either jumping off of cliffs, or relying on something with an engine to get them in the air . . . On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines! --R On 12/24/14 11:05 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines. -- OK Don, with MANY hours towing gliders aloft ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:41:30 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines! They are either jumping off of cliffs, or relying on something with an engine to get them in the air . . . Or staying on the ground. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
This conversation has wandered way off topic. Behave! On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:41:30 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have friends who say real airplanes have NO engines! They are either jumping off of cliffs, or relying on something with an engine to get them in the air . . . Or staying on the ground. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Yassir! Here is some hot air blowin your way. This conversation has wandered way off topic. Behave! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
People and list members, I followed the advice to disconnect the monovalve, and went for an 8 mile RT drive on local roads to the Safeway (open on Xmas). The air started blowing TOASTY WARM as I idled but not scorchingly hot. The air stayed warm but on the way back, I picked up speed when heading down a long hill and at 50 mph the dash air lost its heat and cooled to ambient (outside it's in the 50s today)) and remained cool the remainder of the journey regardless of what I did to the ACC controls. So then I swapped out the ACC push button module with a good used one that I had on the shelf, reconnected the monovalve and went for another spin. This time, however, I went straight to the interstate and did a 5 mile RT at highway speeds. Not only did the air remain warm, but it modulated in response to the ACC temperature wheel. This was encouraging, but I need to do further testing when the temperatures dip back below freezing. Can any conclusions be reached yet? On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Yassir! Here is some hot air blowin your way. This conversation has wandered way off topic. Behave! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Can any conclusions be reached yet? disconnect the monovalve, and went for a...drive The air started blowing TOASTY WARM...at 50 mph the dash air lost its heat and cooled to ambient Only a bad monovalve can do this. I swapped out the ACC push button module with a good used... reconnected the monovalve and went for another spin. Not only did the air remain warm, but it modulated in response to the ACC temperature wheel. Any _other_ problems are/were due to the PBU. It is entirely common to have more than one problem in this system. The failing monovalve, before it's totally defunct, may choose to work fairly well at times. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Curt wrote: I'm also curious why my text comes back tiny in your replies but nobody elses... Real email is plaintext. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt wrote: I'm also curious why my text comes back tiny in your replies but nobody elses... Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round engines. :-) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Real airplanes have at least 2 engines Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round engines. :-) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines. On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real airplanes have at least 2 engines Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round engines. :-) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Well, I thought it has 8! ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines. On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real airplanes have at least 2 engines Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round engines. :-) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Anything with more than one is Too many small parts flying in close formation. On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:08 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I thought it has 8! ;) Wilton -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
G: How many engines did Wiltons have? Now that's a real airplane. On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:05:26 -0500 Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: REAL airplanes have at least 4 engines. On Dec 24, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real airplanes have at least 2 engines Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2014, at 7:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Real radios glow in the dark, and real airplanes have tail wheels and round engines. :-) On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 7:31 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Real email is plaintext. :) Old email is plain text ;-) -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8802 - Release Date: 12/24/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Philip sez: Real email is plaintext. :) Neanderthal! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Original Message Philip sez: Real email is plaintext. :) Then Shirley Mclain's brother Curly sez: Neanderthal! Luddite. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Original Message Philip sez: Real email is plaintext. :) Then Shirley Mclain's brother Curly sez: Neanderthal! Luddite. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Cretan! (actually, I much prefer plain text email.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
G: I've had one of Garys in the 300D for about 3 years; still works well. I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8792 - Release Date: 12/23/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? BTW, thanks for the troubleshooting tip - I will defintely try this and unplug the monovalve assembly over the weekend. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:29 AM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the longer I was on the road, the colder it felt, but that may have been a cumulative effect... The classic symptom of a torn monovalve insert is heat ONLY at low engine RPM. It is possible, but not likely, that a damaged insert would cause no heat. But it could be electrical failure. I'd unplug the electrical connector on the monovalve and go for a drive. That is the full heat setting. If there is still no heat, it has to be the monovalve or the coolant flow. If there is heat - then it's the controller. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Yes don't touch them. Buy OE or suffer. You risk blowing your engine. Ask Jon. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? MANUFACTURERPART NUMBERCONDITIONMTC 000-835-06-44 BRAND NEW OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
The real thing is over $100, what do you think? I'll make it real simple, cheap parts on eBay will always be a gamble, how much of a gambler are you? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Ebay has MTC brand monovalves for between $17 and $55. Are these Chinese? | MANUFACTURER | PART NUMBER | CONDITION | | MTC | 000-835-06-44 | BRAND NEW | OTHER PART NUMBERS: 1-147-213-007 / 1147213007 /0008350644 / 1-147-213-007 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: HA! Could be it was all that he could get... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I'm surprised Dr. Fatty would sell you one. I didn't think he would sell such tripe? Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:24 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oh no, you didn't buy a Chinese monovalve! Ask Jon about those! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I just bought one from Dr. Fatty, the cheepchineechit version for $30 which is like 1/8 the price of the MB one, which is probably cheepchineechit too. --R On 12/23/14 2:11 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Larry, when you say controller you mean the push button module, right? On that system, the actual controller is separate from the pushbutton module. Every PBU I've had has had problems, but I've never had a controller go bad. The PBU just selects functions, and gates the signals for the mode you are in. The later systems, without the translucent Auto speed button bar, are entirely integrated into the PBU. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
How do I trouble shoot the aux. water pump, Dan? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Two choices: The easy way - disconnect the harness and apply 12VDC to the pump terminals. They're pretty small as I recall, so you may need some jumper clips to do it. You'll hear the pump whirring if it's working. If not, it's dead, Jim. The tough way - remove it from the hoses (capping or plugging them off) and take to the bench. Try to power it up there, or just disassemble and check for the pump or motor being seized. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How do I trouble shoot the aux. water pump, Dan? On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
Isn't the aux water pump only for heat at idle where the regular water pump doesn't move sufficient volume? Sounds like some testing needs to be done. I'm also curious why my text comes back tiny in your replies but nobody elses... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
I didn’t say it did - it didn’t - it had the dreaded servo. BUT! It DID have a auxiliary water pump. That’s what I was talking about…. Nice of you to stop in. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is
What Dimitri was referring to about blowing an engine was a defective Chinese aux pump. The screws that hold the whole thing together would not stay tight, which resulted in coolant spraying directly into the alternator. The first time I noticed it was a rapidly rising and falling coolant temp whilst driving on Lake Shore Drive in downtown Chicago on the Sunday following Thanksgiving. It steadied out only to have it happen again on the Chicago Skyway into Indiana. Steadied out again, and finally figured it out in Knox, IN. Luckily, the auto zone was open, so I had a ready supply of Xerox. Tightened the screws, and they lasted until Buffalo. By this time, SWMBO was quite unhappy with the multiple stops and uneven heating of the passenger compartment. The monovalve was causing the extreme hot/extreme cold heating, but it was the aux pump (cheap, Chinese piece of s***) that was causing the coolant loss and overheats. My advice….for the last time…..buy OE. Jon On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn’t say it did - it didn’t - it had the dreaded servo. BUT! It DID have a auxiliary water pump. That’s what I was talking about…. Nice of you to stop in. Dan On Dec 23, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The 79 does not have a mono lave Sent from my iPhone On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah, almost forgot that one! They will freeze up and severely impede the flow of coolant to the heater core. I had that happen on my 1979 300TD. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 23, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anothe possibility my tech mentioned, though not likely, was a bad aux. water pump. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Assuming you notice the rise in temp and have someplace safe to stop... -Curt -- *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* roger...@comcast.net roger...@comcast.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 23, 2014 2:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is I believe it was Dimitri that made this allegation. I don't see anything of the sort happening. WOrst case scenario, they leak some coolant and hte tmperature gauge rises. In that case, stop the car and investigate prior to running dry and blowing anything up. BTW, do you know a source for French Arcoroc clear dining plates and bowls? Used is also fine. I am short some rimless 8 soup bowls (coupe style). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew, I don't normally get involved in these discussions, but I'm intrigued by the blow up your engine comment. How would a monovalve do that? I could understand a stuck thermostat or some such, but a monovalve? It must be doing something that I'm not familiar with. Please explain. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
I would start with looking at the monovalve. As for the disparity in prices, I would suspect that the URO folks are somehow involved. A URO rep surfaced a while ago over at BenzWorld and he tried to defend their products. Needless to say he went quiet rather quickly as people took him to task over URO's crappy parts. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R40%7CR40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the pushbutton array, and a split monovalve insert. The former makes it insane, and unable to do what it should, and the latter just plain prevents heat. The tertiary ill is a rotted foam hose going to the cabin air temperature sensor, which makes it unresponsive to in-cabin air temperature. All are easy fixes, for the handy. (Assuming, now, that you can _get_ a decent monovalve insert.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
A piece of 1/2 foam pipe insulation works wonders as a replacement for the original rotted part. Dan Sent from my iPad On Dec 22, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That system has two primary ills: bad solder joints in the pushbutton array, and a split monovalve insert. The former makes it insane, and unable to do what it should, and the latter just plain prevents heat. The tertiary ill is a rotted foam hose going to the cabin air temperature sensor, which makes it unresponsive to in-cabin air temperature. All are easy fixes, for the handy. (Assuming, now, that you can _get_ a decent monovalve insert.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R40%7CR40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
You didn't answer the question and you responded only to me although from your response it would appear you meant to respond to everybody. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I forgot to mention that it isn't the thermostat - the engine operating temperature was in the normal range. Has anyone replaced or know the purpose of, the AC heater and control valve and if so, where is it mounted? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R40%7CR40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Yeah, GMail in conversation mode aggregates all responses, although some are private. I still am getting used to this. Also, your questions was in tiny type that I could barely read. Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the longer I was on the road, the colder it felt, but that may have been a cumulative effect... On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You didn't answer the question and you responded only to me although from your response it would appear you meant to respond to everybody. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I forgot to mention that it isn't the thermostat - the engine operating temperature was in the normal range. Has anyone replaced or know the purpose of, the AC heater and control valve and if so, where is it mounted? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R40%7CR40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Hi Andrew, Go with a new OE mono-valve. I had the same issue and bought 2 chinese mono-valves from Rusty before crying uncle. The OE ($146 IIRC) has worked perfectly since it was installed almost 3 winters ago. The cheap Chinese ones would get a little tear in the rubber diaphragm allowing the coolant (under pressure) to get where it shouldn’t. The other 2 issues that will affect you are the actual sensor itself (under the little grill in your dash) and the tube. I do not think that these are your problem now, but if you replace them…..your system will work completely as designed. I did both, and my wife has no more complaints about the temperature control. Jon On Dec 22, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R40%7CR40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xmercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Original Message From: Jon Agne via Mercedes Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:16 PM To: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Jon Agne Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I did both, and my wife has no more complaints about the temperature control. And everyone knows... a happy wife, means a happy life! Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Andrew wrote: Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the longer I was on the road, the colder it felt, but that may have been a cumulative effect... The classic symptom of a torn monovalve insert is heat ONLY at low engine RPM. It is possible, but not likely, that a damaged insert would cause no heat. But it could be electrical failure. I'd unplug the electrical connector on the monovalve and go for a drive. That is the full heat setting. If there is still no heat, it has to be the monovalve or the coolant flow. If there is heat - then it's the controller. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on!
Pull the electrical connector at the monovalve. That should let the monovalve stay full open. If still no heat, the monoalve insert is toast. Good luck finding a replacement. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:57 PM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Yeah, GMail in conversation mode aggregates all responses, although some are private. I still am getting used to this. Also, your questions was in tiny type that I could barely read. Anyway, at idle there doesn't appear to be much difference in heat. My tech is betting it's the monovalve, with the ACC module a close second. I have a spare ACC module so will test this first before purchasing a monovalve. I did notice that the faster I drove and the longer I was on the road, the colder it felt, but that may have been a cumulative effect... On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You didn't answer the question and you responded only to me although from your response it would appear you meant to respond to everybody. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! I forgot to mention that it isn't the thermostat - the engine operating temperature was in the normal range. Has anyone replaced or know the purpose of, the AC heater and control valve and if so, where is it mounted? On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Does it blow warmer when sitting at idle? Thats a sure sign of monovalve. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Blows Ice Cold no matter how cold it is outside - even with the heat on! Drove back from NYC last night and almost froze to death. Crazy symptoms: 1. Blower works fine but even with wheel pegged to max heat, there is no warmth to the air flow. 2. Two right side dash vents blow so cold they had to be shut off; two left side blow lukewarm at best 3. Air to floor is icy cold (ambient air?). 4. Problem worsened as time went on. Ideas? I was thinking the problem could be blamed on one of the following: 1. defective mono valve 2. push button ACC malfunction (system not responsive to temp. wheel) 3. defective AC heater and control valve - used with A/C and heating controls in dash: http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0008000478.jpg 0008000478 Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html - AC Heater Control Valve; Changeover Valve for Climate Control; 2 Pin 2 Vacuum Connectors Anyone ever repalced a W123 AC Heater Control Valve? If so, what symptoms did it resolve? Incidentally, the AC blew ICE COLD all summer long. BTW, how do you account for the large price difference in new monovalves offered on ebay that appear to be identical: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=mercedes+mono+valve_from=R4 0%7CR 40_osacat=0_from=R40_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xme rced es+mono+valve+%2B+%28w123%2C+300d%29_nkw=mercedes+mono+valv e+%2B+%28w 123%2C+300d%29_sacat=0 Thanks in advance, and brrr! Andrew 1983 300TD runs hot and cold 1985 300TD Freeze your b*tt off year round. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual
