Re: [MBZ] 260E etc/
This is a good site for info about MB things http://et.mercedes-benz-clubs.com/mediawiki/index.php/Hauptseite/en and as far as the M104 in 2.8 trim, it is basically a M103 with DOHC, so should do better at higher RPM's. Hendrik who has not had a good look through that site Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jan 9, 2012 5:05 PM, wrote: ...Yes, same up here, and for one year they said "300E 2.8" just to make things even more confusing. The 2.8 was an M104 later used in the C280 vs the 2.6 an M103 from the 190E 2.6. That's interesting. What were the power and torque specs on that engine compared to the bigger M104 and the 3-liter M103? A bit ironic, methinks, if the decontented 2.8 was actually faster than the outgoing 3.0. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E etc/
On Jan 9, 2012 5:05 PM, wrote: > > > ...Yes, same up here, and for one year they said "300E 2.8" just to make > > things even more confusing. > > > The 2.8 was an M104 later used in the C280 vs the 2.6 an M103 from the 190E > 2.6. That's interesting. What were the power and torque specs on that engine compared to the bigger M104 and the 3-liter M103? A bit ironic, methinks, if the decontented 2.8 was actually faster than the outgoing 3.0. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E
Actually the best is either a E320 or E420. The E420 is a hell of a nice car (in general). That E320 with the 104 is nice too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> ..i never liked them. smaller engine and tranny. less amenities. why not >> just get a proper 300E instead of a decontented one? the price is the >> same... >> > The 260 had 158hp, I bleeve. If your heart is set on a 124, the best of all > is the 300E 2.8. 194hp and a hell of a lot less maintenance. > > RLE >> > > > > > ** > Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1572 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 > 6:51 AM > > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E
> ..i never liked them. smaller engine and tranny. less amenities. why not > just get a proper 300E instead of a decontented one? the price is the > same... > The 260 had 158hp, I bleeve. If your heart is set on a 124, the best of all is the 300E 2.8. 194hp and a hell of a lot less maintenance. RLE > > ** Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E Inj. TSBs
Hendrick & Fay. Ta, very much. The PO had both pumps replaced about 6 months before she gave it to me, or at least paid for the replacement. Starting cold, it responds normally and drives well. Runnung hot 95c it runs well. The only problems is when it is about half warm, 40c, or has shut off for 1/2 to 1 hours. Peter and MAK have suggested various fixes. Thank you. I'd just like to have a menu of things to check, rather than throwing parts at it. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA "A Diesel for me A Diesel for me If your no a Diesel You're no use to me" (With apologies to Harry Lauder. Knight of the Realm). At 11:56 PM 4/12/2008, you wrote: >Not 100% on this but I think the stumbling issue relates to fuel pumps, >they use 2 pumps. >I can go and dig around if no one has the TSB handy. > >Hendrik >with 2 pumps on the TE but I think one is sick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E Inj. TSBs
Not 100% on this but I think the stumbling issue relates to fuel pumps, they use 2 pumps. I can go and dig around if no one has the TSB handy. Hendrik with 2 pumps on the TE but I think one is sick Frederick W Moir wrote: > Hi, All > Searching the Internet, reveals that there are a number of TSBs > relating to 260E/300E stumbling etc. when warm. Does anyone have a > source of TSBs? I could pay Alldata for their info. but, being cheap, > I'd rather not. Does MBZ have a list of relevant files, or do they > only have them for sale? > TIA > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > 260E Luke's car (My Albatross; now, who do I know that I don't like > and who is blind?) > 87 190DT Bent > 87 190DT Runner > 85 300TD Hangar Queen > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E Injection
Replace the Fuel accumulator .A lot of strange symptoms will be gone including hot start stumbles. Check for vacuum leaks as Peter as suggested. Finally suggest Check and replace the throttle position sensor on the front of the fuel unit. mak - Original Message - From: "Frederick W Moir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 4:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] 260E Injection > Calling all gurus, calling all gurus. > Patient:- '89 260E. > Problem:- starts up fine and runs well. At about 40C the throttle > starts to be unresponsive at more than 1/4 and when warmed up, 95C, runs > OK. > If the car is then stopped for approx. 1/2 to 1 hour, on re-start the > car will start to stumble for about 15-20 seconds and will not > accelerate, then almost as if a switch was closed the car then accel. > normally. > My tired old brain can only come up with a couple of ideas. > 1. The cold start injector is activated then shuts off. > 2. there are one or more injectors dribbling fuel after the car is shut > off. > Any thoughts? > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > 85 300TD > 87 190DT White, Bent > 87 190DT Blue, Almost there. > Luke's 260E Problem Child. > Gimmee diesels I say! Gimmee diesels! > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1366 - Release Date: 4/8/2008 > 5:03 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E Injection
Well, now. First, check the OVP, if it's out, it will run funny. Check the idle mixture, and also (first) for vacuum leaks --we just replaced the idle control valve hoses and the boot between the air meter horn and the throttle body. Squirt some brake parts cleaner over the idle control valve hoses and the boot -- if the idle changes, replace them, and replace the injector seals AND the o-rings on the sleeve the injector fits in -- they all are bad if any are bad. Vacuum leaks will drive you nuts on that car, as the computer controller won't set the check engine light when the mixture goes out of control. If you have occasional stalling when coming to a stop and/or throttle lag, suspect a serious vacuum leak. The warm start problem is quite likely a leaking accumulator (will also cause hard starts in really hot weather with the engine hot) -- you need to have the pressure checked, it should be 3 bar with the pump on and something like 2 bar indefinitely with the pump off. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E
<> The 260E was a cut-price version of the 300E of the period with some of the 300E's standard equipment removed. They were a bit underpowered, as I recall about 20hp less, sharing the engine with the 190E 2.6, and any built-in engine problems were present in both the 2.6 and 3.0. No question that a car of this mileage would have had the undersized piston problem repaired long ago, had it been one of the effected cars. My '89 19E 2.6 was one of them. RLE ** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 260E in Iowa
Kaleb wrote: "oh I doubt it, its probably already more than I would pay :)" It may not be more than I would pay for it. At least if I can do some research. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have recieved this message in error, please delete it and notify me.
Re: [MBZ] 260E in Iowa (?)
oh I doubt it, its probably already more than I would pay :) LT Don wrote: If it does, you'll be coming north to drag another one home, won't you? On 12/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it wont stay that cheap for long LT Don wrote: Nothing I plan to bid on -- just strange to see something affordable that is only 200 miles from my house. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-260E-Good-Condition-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4600052523QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 260E in Iowa (?)
If it does, you'll be coming north to drag another one home, won't you? On 12/28/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it wont stay that cheap for long > > LT Don wrote: > > > Nothing I plan to bid on -- just strange to see something affordable > that is > > only 200 miles from my house. > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-260E-Good-Condition-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4600052523QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > -- > > 1977 240D > > 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle > > > > http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen > > ___ > > http://www.striplin.net > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, > 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, > 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 > http://www.striplin.net > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 260E in Iowa (?)
it wont stay that cheap for long LT Don wrote: Nothing I plan to bid on -- just strange to see something affordable that is only 200 miles from my house. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-Mercedes-Benz-260E-Good-Condition-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ4600052523QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
