Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
I think this particular 300CD was built on the MONDAY after the Octoberfest weekend! It has a whole bunch of weird problems. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If that is the case it is quite strange. Usually its the shutoff valve or >> other leaks. I have never see the ignition part go bad. >> > > The one on the Albatross was full of oil, and popped apart. > I put it back together, clean, and it worked just fine. > > > -- Jim > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
If that is the case it is quite strange. Usually its the shutoff valve or other leaks. I have never see the ignition part go bad. The one on the Albatross was full of oil, and popped apart. I put it back together, clean, and it worked just fine. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
If that is the case it is quite strange. Usually its the shutoff valve or other leaks. I have never see the ignition part go bad. andrew strasfogel wrote: Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff under the dash near ignition switch. They need to remove the cluster to get at it. Has anyone ever heard of this? Car is a W123 1983 300CD turbodiesel. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work. Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on... I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct? On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's the lock system. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1758 - Release Date: 10/31/2008 8:22 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
The switch often fails if oil gets into the line from a bad shutoff valve. We had to replace the one on my brother's 76 W115, so it's not unheard of. Easy fix, just pop out the cluster, unscrew the switch, install new one, re-install cluster. Maybe an hour's labor. Peter On Oct 31, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff under the dash near ignition switch. AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition switch, and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I suppose if you knew which line was the vacuum feed to the shutoff system you could hook up a Mity-Vac and see if it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has been looking at it, he probably already did that. Seems like the vac servo/solenoid/ actuator on the back of the IP fails more often than the valve/ switch on the steering column. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff under the dash near ignition switch. They need to remove the cluster to get at it. Has anyone ever heard of this? The _switch_ is behind there. They can go bad, especially if they've gotten filled with oil. Perhaps the dealership's standard repair is to flush out the lines and possibly replace the vacuum switch whenever replacing the shutoff actuator. (Since the latter can leak oil into the vacuum system.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
andrew strasfogel wrote: Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046? That part is NLA! I believe the official name for the valve that controls the vacuum applied to the transmission modulator (controlling shift harshness/slippage) is vacuum control valve. Not sure what the shutoff valve on the ignition switch is called. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046? That part is NLA! On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > andrew strasfogel wrote: > >> Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff >> under the dash near ignition switch. >> > > AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition > switch, and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I > suppose if you knew which line was the vacuum feed to the shutoff system you > could hook up a Mity-Vac and see if it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has > been looking at it, he probably already did that. Seems like the vac > servo/solenoid/actuator on the back of the IP fails more often than the > valve/switch on the steering column. > Mitch. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
andrew strasfogel wrote: Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff under the dash near ignition switch. AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition switch, and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I suppose if you knew which line was the vacuum feed to the shutoff system you could hook up a Mity-Vac and see if it leaks. If the dealer mechanic has been looking at it, he probably already did that. Seems like the vac servo/solenoid/actuator on the back of the IP fails more often than the valve/switch on the steering column. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff under the dash near ignition switch. They need to remove the cluster to get at it. Has anyone ever heard of this? Car is a W123 1983 300CD turbodiesel. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Wilton Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on... > > > > I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct? > > > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and > on? > > >> > > > > > > Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's > > > the lock system. > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work. Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on... > I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct? > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? > >> > > > > Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's > > the lock system. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct? On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? >> > > Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's > the lock system. > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's the lock system. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
The vacuum line to my 240D's central locking system has a big ol' golf tee stuck in it, for that very reason. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? > There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check > out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the > trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting > off? The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock). > Andrew > SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Yes - not "leaving" enough vacuum to operate the fuel shutoff. Wilton - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on... > Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on? > There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check > out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the > trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting > off? The locks work intermittently (lock and unlock). > Andrew > SWMBO 1985 300CD, 215 k miles > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
