Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I don't know if the bumpers appears in 73 or 74, depends on manufacture date I 
think -- my 280SE had small ones, and I don't think MB ever put the big ones 
on, just dropped the model by the time they were required.  Mine was 
manufactured in April, I think anything manufatured after August 1st (the 
semi-official "introduction" date for cars in the US) had to be collision 
resistant.

The were definitely ugly, but the previous ones were pretty non-functional.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

73 is last year with small bumpers.

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 73 and 74 are pretty much identical, 72 and earlier have the small bumpers.
> 
> Great cars, a good friend of mine had one when we were at IU.  Sadly hers had 
> a "kick me" sign on the back, her mother got rear-ended in in it just before 
> Jan came to school, and she got rear ended twice after that, always sitting 
> at a red traffic light.  Last one totaled it, sadly.
> 
> I drove it a few times, best driving car I've ever been in.  Manual 
> steerying, so parking was a pain, but otherwise just a blast to drive.
> 
> Unfortunately, the rust worms ate the vast majority of them, just like all 
> the other 70's German cars made with Russian steel.  My 75 Audi Fox fell 
> apart by 85, too.
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

73 and 74 are pretty much identical, 72 and earlier have the small bumpers.

Great cars, a good friend of mine had one when we were at IU.  Sadly hers had a 
"kick me" sign on the back, her mother got rear-ended in in it just before Jan 
came to school, and she got rear ended twice after that, always sitting at a 
red traffic light.  Last one totaled it, sadly.

I drove it a few times, best driving car I've ever been in.  Manual steerying, 
so parking was a pain, but otherwise just a blast to drive.

Unfortunately, the rust worms ate the vast majority of them, just like all the 
other 70's German cars made with Russian steel.  My 75 Audi Fox fell apart by 
85, too.
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Basically yes. The 74 had square tail lights instead of round (roundie) and 
ugly diving board bumpers. Pre 74 are more valuable but fine examples of any 
1602, 2002, or 2002tii are starting to command big bucks as evidenced by this 
and other recent auctions.

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> On Aug 24, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is the 1973 model the same body style as a 1974 2002? I had a neighbor years 
> ago in the 90's who had a 1974 coupe,  oxidized paint but very good 
> condition.  I wish I had bought that car when he moved "up" to a 1989 Accord.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 
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>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And it sold for 93,500. Holy smokes!
>> 
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>>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I owned a BMW R25 single cyl. motorcycle and it was awesome, so I guess I
>>> can relate to the fervor...
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Well, there's probably only six left in the US in driveable conditon, they
 suffered VERY badly from 70's german car rust disease, particularly in the
 rear suspension towers.  Last on I saw was squatting in a lot, rear wheels
 at about a 30 degree angle, which is what happens when the spring towers
 rot away.
 
 Wonderful cars, a real blast to drive, and very rare.
 
 Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Is the 1973 model the same body style as a 1974 2002? I had a neighbor years 
ago in the 90's who had a 1974 coupe,  oxidized paint but very good condition.  
I wish I had bought that car when he moved "up" to a 1989 Accord.
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 
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> wrote:
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> And it sold for 93,500. Holy smokes!
> 
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>> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I owned a BMW R25 single cyl. motorcycle and it was awesome, so I guess I
>> can relate to the fervor...
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, there's probably only six left in the US in driveable conditon, they
>>> suffered VERY badly from 70's german car rust disease, particularly in the
>>> rear suspension towers.  Last on I saw was squatting in a lot, rear wheels
>>> at about a 30 degree angle, which is what happens when the spring towers
>>> rot away.
>>> 
>>> Wonderful cars, a real blast to drive, and very rare.
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

And it sold for 93,500. Holy smokes!

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> On Aug 23, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I owned a BMW R25 single cyl. motorcycle and it was awesome, so I guess I
> can relate to the fervor...
> 
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well, there's probably only six left in the US in driveable conditon, they
>> suffered VERY badly from 70's german car rust disease, particularly in the
>> rear suspension towers.  Last on I saw was squatting in a lot, rear wheels
>> at about a 30 degree angle, which is what happens when the spring towers
>> rot away.
>> 
>> Wonderful cars, a real blast to drive, and very rare.
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So were my R69S and R100 cycles - - -

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I owned a BMW R25 single cyl. motorcycle and it was awesome, so I guess I
> can relate to the fervor...
>
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I owned a BMW R25 single cyl. motorcycle and it was awesome, so I guess I
can relate to the fervor...

On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, there's probably only six left in the US in driveable conditon, they
> suffered VERY badly from 70's german car rust disease, particularly in the
> rear suspension towers.  Last on I saw was squatting in a lot, rear wheels
> at about a 30 degree angle, which is what happens when the spring towers
> rot away.
>
> Wonderful cars, a real blast to drive, and very rare.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Well, there's probably only six left in the US in driveable conditon, they 
suffered VERY badly from 70's german car rust disease, particularly in the rear 
suspension towers.  Last on I saw was squatting in a lot, rear wheels at about 
a 30 degree angle, which is what happens when the spring towers rot away.

Wonderful cars, a real blast to drive, and very rare.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002tii-11/

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> These cute iconic cars have become HOT tickets.  Seems like stupid money
> but what do I know.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-bmw-2002tii-10/
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Re: [MBZ] BMW 1973 2002 for over $40K???

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

A heavily modified one done just the way the enthusiasts would like sold for 
$125,000 a couple of months ago.

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> On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> These cute iconic cars have become HOT tickets.  Seems like stupid money
> but what do I know.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-bmw-2002tii-10/
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