Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Sadly, "BOOM" is almost always a broken rod, although on a 617 a broken cam can 
sound similar.

If you are lucky and it's the cam that failed, you have a rebuildable engine.  
If it tossed a rod, get another engine.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:19 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/pts/d/wd-turbo-oem-mercedes-crate/6733305428.html
> 
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 4:50 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
>> All possible.  I did not see damage externally.  I might be able to source
>> a rebuildable OM617 if there is  need and one is not available from Jasper.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> redgh...@comcast.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Broken crankshaft?   Not usual with an OM617, but possible.  especially
>> if someone changed the flywheel, etc.
>>> Broken chain/camshaft/cam towers is possible.  with that, you can
>> generally hear the chain hit the case, then the cam and bearings crunch,
>> then silence, as you coast to a stop.
>>> Rod thrown?
>>> 
>>> It does not sound like that engine will be revived without much .
 clay monroe via Mercedes 
 November 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM
 … and much smoking, with grinding noise as the SD coasted to a stop.
 
 I was headed to a club event (DIY shop for the day) and of a sudden,
>> the engine produced a rumbling harmonic, then went BOOM, with smoke
>> trailing, motor went dead, and the grinding too place while the RPM were
>> dropping.
 
 Once sort of safely out of the lane of traffic, I popped the hood and
>> tried to see if there were massive leakage. I found none. Oil was at top of
>> the mark. Trans fluid was warm and smelling ok. Coolant overflow tank was
>> below the low mark. No smells of evil from under the hood, no sign of
>> obvious damage under the car from front to back. I was about 12 miles from
>> the venue, but figured I would be stupid to attempt to get there, even if
>> folks would be on hand to assist in repairs, so I called AAA.
 
 I attempted to get it to crank, but all it did was poot out some more
>> smoke, and would not crank again. The glow system worked, just not enough
>> power in the starter to spin the motor. Maybe too much resistance in the
>> block? Battery is about six month old and got a full charge after draining
>> two weeks ago.
 
 The SD is now parked at my indy awaiting his prognosis on Monday.
 
 
 
 clay
 
 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
 1986 SDL - Polei
 1982 300 SD - Allen
 
 retired models-
 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

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On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 4:50 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

> All possible.  I did not see damage externally.  I might be able to source
> a rebuildable OM617 if there is  need and one is not available from Jasper.
>
>
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Broken crankshaft?   Not usual with an OM617, but possible.  especially
> if someone changed the flywheel, etc.
> > Broken chain/camshaft/cam towers is possible.  with that, you can
> generally hear the chain hit the case, then the cam and bearings crunch,
> then silence, as you coast to a stop.
> > Rod thrown?
> >
> > It does not sound like that engine will be revived without much .
> >> clay monroe via Mercedes 
> >> November 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM
> >> … and much smoking, with grinding noise as the SD coasted to a stop.
> >>
> >> I was headed to a club event (DIY shop for the day) and of a sudden,
> the engine produced a rumbling harmonic, then went BOOM, with smoke
> trailing, motor went dead, and the grinding too place while the RPM were
> dropping.
> >>
> >> Once sort of safely out of the lane of traffic, I popped the hood and
> tried to see if there were massive leakage. I found none. Oil was at top of
> the mark. Trans fluid was warm and smelling ok. Coolant overflow tank was
> below the low mark. No smells of evil from under the hood, no sign of
> obvious damage under the car from front to back. I was about 12 miles from
> the venue, but figured I would be stupid to attempt to get there, even if
> folks would be on hand to assist in repairs, so I called AAA.
> >>
> >> I attempted to get it to crank, but all it did was poot out some more
> smoke, and would not crank again. The glow system worked, just not enough
> power in the starter to spin the motor. Maybe too much resistance in the
> block? Battery is about six month old and got a full charge after draining
> two weeks ago.
> >>
> >> The SD is now parked at my indy awaiting his prognosis on Monday.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
> >> 1986 SDL - Polei
> >> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >>
> >> retired models-
> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

All possible.  I did not see damage externally.  I might be able to source a 
rebuildable OM617 if there is  need and one is not available from Jasper.



clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Nov 10, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Broken crankshaft?   Not usual with an OM617, but possible.  especially if 
> someone changed the flywheel, etc.
> Broken chain/camshaft/cam towers is possible.  with that, you can generally 
> hear the chain hit the case, then the cam and bearings crunch, then silence, 
> as you coast to a stop.
> Rod thrown?
> 
> It does not sound like that engine will be revived without much .
>> clay monroe via Mercedes 
>> November 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM
>> … and much smoking, with grinding noise as the SD coasted to a stop.
>> 
>> I was headed to a club event (DIY shop for the day) and of a sudden, the 
>> engine produced a rumbling harmonic, then went BOOM, with smoke trailing, 
>> motor went dead, and the grinding too place while the RPM were dropping.
>> 
>> Once sort of safely out of the lane of traffic, I popped the hood and tried 
>> to see if there were massive leakage. I found none. Oil was at top of the 
>> mark. Trans fluid was warm and smelling ok. Coolant overflow tank was below 
>> the low mark. No smells of evil from under the hood, no sign of obvious 
>> damage under the car from front to back. I was about 12 miles from the 
>> venue, but figured I would be stupid to attempt to get there, even if folks 
>> would be on hand to assist in repairs, so I called AAA.
>> 
>> I attempted to get it to crank, but all it did was poot out some more smoke, 
>> and would not crank again. The glow system worked, just not enough power in 
>> the starter to spin the motor. Maybe too much resistance in the block? 
>> Battery is about six month old and got a full charge after draining two 
>> weeks ago.
>> 
>> The SD is now parked at my indy awaiting his prognosis on Monday.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Broken crankshaft?   Not usual with an OM617, but possible.  especially 
if someone changed the flywheel, etc.
Broken chain/camshaft/cam towers is possible.  with that, you can 
generally hear the chain hit the case, then the cam and bearings crunch, 
then silence, as you coast to a stop.

Rod thrown?

It does not sound like that engine will be revived without much .

clay monroe via Mercedes 
November 10, 2018 at 1:56 PM
… and much smoking, with grinding noise as the SD coasted to a stop.

I was headed to a club event (DIY shop for the day) and of a sudden, 
the engine produced a rumbling harmonic, then went BOOM, with smoke 
trailing, motor went dead, and the grinding too place while the RPM 
were dropping.


Once sort of safely out of the lane of traffic, I popped the hood and 
tried to see if there were massive leakage. I found none. Oil was at 
top of the mark. Trans fluid was warm and smelling ok. Coolant 
overflow tank was below the low mark. No smells of evil from under the 
hood, no sign of obvious damage under the car from front to back. I 
was about 12 miles from the venue, but figured I would be stupid to 
attempt to get there, even if folks would be on hand to assist in 
repairs, so I called AAA.


I attempted to get it to crank, but all it did was poot out some more 
smoke, and would not crank again. The glow system worked, just not 
enough power in the starter to spin the motor. Maybe too much 
resistance in the block? Battery is about six month old and got a full 
charge after draining two weeks ago.


The SD is now parked at my indy awaiting his prognosis on Monday.



clay

1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Car go BOOM

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Timing chain? Or maybe ate a prechamber? Sorry to hear :(

On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 11:56 AM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

> … and much smoking, with grinding noise as the SD coasted to a stop.
>
> I was headed to a club event (DIY shop for the day) and of a sudden, the
> engine produced a rumbling harmonic, then went BOOM, with smoke trailing,
> motor went dead, and the grinding too place while the RPM were dropping.
>
> Once sort of safely out of the lane of traffic, I popped the hood and
> tried to see if there were massive leakage.  I found none.  Oil was at top
> of the mark.  Trans fluid was warm and smelling ok.  Coolant overflow tank
> was below the low mark.  No smells of evil from under the hood, no sign of
> obvious damage under the car from front to back.  I was about 12 miles from
> the venue, but figured I would be stupid to attempt to get there, even if
> folks would be on hand to assist in repairs, so I called AAA.
>
> I attempted to get it to crank, but all it did was poot out some more
> smoke, and would not crank again.  The glow system worked, just not enough
> power in the starter to spin the motor.  Maybe too much resistance in the
> block?  Battery is about six month old and got a full charge after draining
> two weeks ago.
>
> The SD is now parked at my indy awaiting his prognosis on Monday.
>
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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