Re: [MBZ] Convince Me
I got Gump for $117.50 on eSpay. Best waste of a hundred bucks I ever did. Next I bid on a w114 in Iowa. All I got were some parts I wanted and let the owner resell the remains. The price you are looking at is silly for a 30 year old car, unless it is in showroom condition. For $7k Canadian, I would rent a three car hauler, find a really nice example of a mid 80s SD and get two parts cars as back up. Then I would have a dealer review the driver, call Rusty and order what consumables are called for. At This point, you should have enough left over for a few tanks of fuel, a years insurance, and a nice dinner for the wife. On Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 04:19 PM, R A Bennell wrote: I have always wanted one of these old diesel beasts but have always been a bit leary of the cost of repairs. That is especially true since I am in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and there are not all that many of these things around here anymore.There never were a lot of them here and that means junkyard parts are going to be rare. I would likely have to import new or used parts from the USA. So, the real question is, whether these old beasties are really worth the time and trouble. They were considered economical in the years when gas guzzling V8's roamed the lands. A reasonably sized car with good mileage and cheap fuel was a good idea. Today, the cost of fuel is often close to that of gasoline or even higher. The fuel mileage is not nearly so good when compared to modern fuel injected V6's (as opposed to V8's) etc. Similarly, longevity was a plus if one cared for the car. Mercedes quality and diesel meant that it might never wear out if one kept it up and changed the oil regularly. Today, most of the Toyotas and Hondas have comparable quality and longevity. So, does it still make sense to want one of these things? Or does one have to throw sense out the window and be an eccentric in order to do this? I have a line on a 300D. I think a 1974? Burgundy with a cream colored interior. A sunroof. Car looks good but I did not really get a chance to look under it etc. A second owner vehicle so I am told. A doctor owned it first and since then an older fellow who has now decided to sell it. He wants $7K Canadian so not cheap but then not much is anymore. Randy ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Convince Me
Bzzt - wrong!! Or, to be PC, I respectfully disagree. I have owned a W115 300C (1976), 1980 300D 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD. The 300TD is by far the best of the lot (most reliable and fun to drive). The 1976 looked cool with its old world styling and had an aux. fuel tank in the trunk, but it had a series of expensive repairs that proved a lot more troublesome than either of the later diesels. The ACC system vastly improved in the later 123 models too. On 6/23/05, kweimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always wanted one of these old diesel beasts Randy, Just my opinion, but I think the 114/115 series, especially the diesel is the best car Mercedes ever built. The major fault I find with the design is that they built the car around the heater blower motor. Ordinarily I will not buy a Mercedes later than 1976the last of the 114/115 series. I have 720,000 miles on a 1970 220D. A 76 300D is my daily driver. I did venture into buying an 82 300SD which has one cylinder with zero compression and a leakdown test of 100% pressure loss...a hole in the piston? I haven't had the interest in fixing it even though it starts instantly (major skip, of course) simply because, to me, the 126 is like driving a big boat. The '76 300D is much more nimble and maneuverable which translates into easy U turns and parking. I do think $7K is too much for a '75 (the 300D you mention is probably a '75 rather than a '74...I think the 300D first came out in 1975...I could be wrong. Just my opinion, folks. Don't be mad at me. Ken If I can't fix it, it don't get fixed ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Convince Me
Hey Randy. I've owned a 1976 300D sedans and will be in Winnipeg sometime in July. If you would like me to take a look at it (busman's holiday) let me know off list and we can coordinate. On 6/23/05, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have always wanted one of these old diesel beasts but have always been a bit leary of the cost of repairs. That is especially true since I am in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and there are not all that many of these things around here anymore.There never were a lot of them here and that means junkyard parts are going to be rare. I would likely have to import new or used parts from the USA. So, the real question is, whether these old beasties are really worth the time and trouble. They were considered economical in the years when gas guzzling V8's roamed the lands. A reasonably sized car with good mileage and cheap fuel was a good idea. Today, the cost of fuel is often close to that of gasoline or even higher. The fuel mileage is not nearly so good when compared to modern fuel injected V6's (as opposed to V8's) etc. Similarly, longevity was a plus if one cared for the car. Mercedes quality and diesel meant that it might never wear out if one kept it up and changed the oil regularly. Today, most of the Toyotas and Hondas have comparable quality and longevity. So, does it still make sense to want one of these things? Or does one have to throw sense out the window and be an eccentric in order to do this? I have a line on a 300D. I think a 1974? Burgundy with a cream colored interior. A sunroof. Car looks good but I did not really get a chance to look under it etc. A second owner vehicle so I am told. A doctor owned it first and since then an older fellow who has now decided to sell it. He wants $7K Canadian so not cheap but then not much is anymore. Randy ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] Convince Me
More information now available as I spoke to the owner. It is a 1976 300D and has just over 100K miles on it. It is burgundy with a cream colored interior. It has Power Windows and a Power Moon Roof. It has A/C but it does not currently work. It has new Michelin tires all way around. He is the 3rd owner and has had it about 3 years. His stated reason for selling it is that he just is not using it. He says it has never been winter driven. One thing that he commented on that I am not familiar with is the transmission. He says it is a standard automatic meaning that one must shift it but there is no clutch. Can anyone fill me in on this? I plan to go and have a closer look at it one day next week. Randy
RE: [MBZ] Convince Me
With humidex it was about 42 degrees Celsius here yesterday (that is about 107 F). Not too common as it is cooler today but obviously, AC is nice to have. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 2:21 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Convince Me R A Bennell wrote: It has A/C but it does not currently work. That's enough to push the price way under what he's asking, but maybe you don't care if it doesn't get hot where you are. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
RE: [MBZ] Convince Me
Randy, When discussing economy, you need to compare apples to apples and when comparing the same vehicle with gas verses diesel you'll find about a 40% improvement in economy. Tou can see the same increase in economy with Mercedes new diesel. Now, concerning the Mercedes. Buy it because you want it, not because you wish to save money. The economy won't be as good as a newer gas burner but neither will the total cost of ownership. The down side is that these old beasts tend to be mechanical monsters with a $1500.00 repair bill lurking just aroundthe corner. Regardless of the suprises, it's better than my Wife's $570.00 / month Jeep payment! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 http://stores.ebay.com/Tom-Hargrave-Sales -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 6:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Convince Me I have always wanted one of these old diesel beasts but have always been a bit leary of the cost of repairs. That is especially true since I am in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and there are not all that many of these things around here anymore.There never were a lot of them here and that means junkyard parts are going to be rare. I would likely have to import new or used parts from the USA. So, the real question is, whether these old beasties are really worth the time and trouble. They were considered economical in the years when gas guzzling V8's roamed the lands. A reasonably sized car with good mileage and cheap fuel was a good idea. Today, the cost of fuel is often close to that of gasoline or even higher. The fuel mileage is not nearly so good when compared to modern fuel injected V6's (as opposed to V8's) etc. Similarly, longevity was a plus if one cared for the car. Mercedes quality and diesel meant that it might never wear out if one kept it up and changed the oil regularly. Today, most of the Toyotas and Hondas have comparable quality and longevity. So, does it still make sense to want one of these things? Or does one have to throw sense out the window and be an eccentric in order to do this? I have a line on a 300D. I think a 1974? Burgundy with a cream colored interior. A sunroof. Car looks good but I did not really get a chance to look under it etc. A second owner vehicle so I am told. A doctor owned it first and since then an older fellow who has now decided to sell it. He wants $7K Canadian so not cheap but then not much is anymore. Randy ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
