Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming

2011-12-02 Thread kevin kraly
I owned a '62 Corvair Monza convertible and a couple Greenbrier Vans, a '62 
and a '64.  None were anything special, but they were very fun to ride 
around in.  Sometimes, I wish I had hung onto the convertible, especially 
when we're having a nice stretch of warm, sunny weather.  I would rather 
have a 300D or similar Diesel.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Randy Bennell

On 02/12/2011 9:05 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the 
"eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.

Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the 
ashtray

Sent from my iPhone


There was a young lady named "Janie" back when I was in highschool who 
had her own VW bug. We heard rumours that the hand straps on the side 
pillars were useful to hold her ankles for certain purposes but cannot 
say if it was true. I had my own girlfriend at the time and never went 
out with Janie.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Randy Bennell

On 02/12/2011 9:19 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Trans Am with the "eagle" on the hood.


A.k.a. "Hood Chicken", "Hood Poultry", or "Iranian National Bird"?
Those are the nicknames I remember.

-- Jim



We called it a screaming chicken. Around here, they were popular with 
the Pilipino immigrant fellows.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Randy Bennell

On 02/12/2011 9:11 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Dan Penoff wrote:
Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans 
Am with the "eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.


One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model 
used Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a 
Screaming Chicken on the hood, and I don't think either one was a 
Trans Am. I think their parents, and possibly the parents of the 
Mustang II girls,figured a small back seat was a good back seat. But, 
what about those nice high backed reclining bucket seats?? Randy

Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Penoff
I certainly thought that at the time, but now I appreciate it.

It's that good Midwestern work ethic.

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> What a mean father.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 12/2/11 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>> I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly.
>> 
>> While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and 
>> could have easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to 
>> school, make good grades, and work for any "luxuries" I might desire.
>> 
>> Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
>> 
 Trans Am with the "eagle" on the hood.
>>> A.k.a. "Hood Chicken", "Hood Poultry", or "Iranian National Bird"?
>>> Those are the nicknames I remember.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Rich Thomas

What a mean father.

--R

On 12/2/11 12:11 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly.

While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and could have 
easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to school, make good 
grades, and work for any "luxuries" I might desire.

Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:


Trans Am with the "eagle" on the hood.

A.k.a. "Hood Chicken", "Hood Poultry", or "Iranian National Bird"?
Those are the nicknames I remember.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread WILTON
But a small back seat is no deterrent at all for the determined and 
innovative.


Wilton

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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?



Dan Penoff wrote:
Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am 
with the "eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.


One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model used 
Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a Screaming Chicken 
on the hood, and I don't think either one was a Trans Am. I think their 
parents, and possibly the parents of the Mustang II girls, figured a small 
back seat was a good back seat.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Penoff
I don't remember much of it, not surprisingly.

While my Dad was an executive VP for a major Midwestern bank at the time and 
could have easily cut a check for a new car for me, I was expected to go to 
school, make good grades, and work for any "luxuries" I might desire.

Hence the string of VWs throughout my younger years

Dan

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:

>> Trans Am with the "eagle" on the hood.
> 
> A.k.a. "Hood Chicken", "Hood Poultry", or "Iranian National Bird"?
> Those are the nicknames I remember.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming? now kids and their cars

2011-12-02 Thread Rich Thomas
One of my son's high school classmates got a Jagyoowah XK-R for his 
16th, that lasted 2 weeks until he bought a tree with it.  So daddy 
bought him a Hummer (the huge original) so he would be safer.  My son 
was driving the 79 TD, and was arguably safer. (Benz content)  No 
comment on any of the St Agnes girls who might or might not have ridden 
in the wagon, if they could have stood the stench of 
Houston-heat-marinated lacrosse gear he and his buds left in there.


--R

On 12/2/11 10:05 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the 
"eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.

Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the 
ashtray

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:


Rich Thomas wrote:

Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned 
the car up.  "This is your Corvair.  This was your Corvair on drugs."   Somehow 
or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus 
until he made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an 
old clapped-out beetle.

A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her 
friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a 
lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to 
the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by 
sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new car 
to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new Monte 
Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she was 
pregnant.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Jim Cathey

Trans Am with the "eagle" on the hood.


A.k.a. "Hood Chicken", "Hood Poultry", or "Iranian National Bird"?
Those are the nicknames I remember.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Dan Penoff wrote:

Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with the 
"eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.


One of my classmates and her older sister got a pair of late model used 
Firebirds, a blue one and a black one. Neither one had a Screaming Chicken on 
the hood, and I don't think either one was a Trans Am. I think their parents, 
and possibly the parents of the Mustang II girls, figured a small back seat was 
a good back seat.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Penoff
Heh. The rich kid graduation present at my high school was the Trans Am with 
the "eagle" on the hood. Made me chuckle every time I saw one.

Dan who drove VWs all through high school and never left a burning roach in the 
ashtray

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and it flared up 
>> and burned the car up.  "This is your Corvair.  This was your Corvair on 
>> drugs."   Somehow or other his parents discovered the initiating event, and 
>> he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough money (working at Mac's 
>> diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old clapped-out beetle.
> 
> A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her 
> friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a 
> lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to 
> the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by 
> sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new 
> car to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new 
> Monte Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she 
> was pregnant.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Dan Penoff
I went to school with two brothers who had a whole stable of these that they 
raced competitively.

Also had a retired teacher that lived next to me when I was growing up that had 
a red one with almost no miles on it. People were always stopping to make her 
offers on it, but she would not sell.

Dan

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On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Rich Thomas  
wrote:

> With the car or with the wife?
> 
> My auntie got a Corvair back in the late 60s or early 70s, used.  I remember 
> it was a light metallic blue sort of color, with a blue interior.  It had 
> this chrome kleenex box holder mounted on a swinging arm under the glove box, 
> it was really cool.  You could reach down and swing the holder out, grab a 
> wipe, and when you hit it the spring would swing it back in.  Looking back, I 
> really liked that car, both the styling(it was the more rounded version) and 
> the color.  It might have been the turbo, I vaguely remember my dad and 
> uncles talking about it as being sorta cool.
> 
> I had a buddy in high school who had an older one, clapped out in sorta turd 
> brown color in and out.  He rigged up a hose from the dash to the trunk, 
> wherein he would stash a bottle of whiskey with the hose end in it, and while 
> driving around on a Sat night be able to take a little toot off the whiskey.  
> Very inventive.  One morning we were all in class, and heard all these fire 
> trucks and such coming to the school.  So we go look out the window, his car 
> was parked down the street a bit, and see the firemen spraying the car, it 
> was burning and belching smoke.  Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering 
> in the ash tray, and it flared up and burned the car up.  "This is your 
> Corvair.  This was your Corvair on drugs."   Somehow or other his parents 
> discovered the initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he 
> made enough money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think 
> an old clapped-out beetle.
> 
> --R
> 
> On 12/2/11 12:40 AM, Fred Moir wrote:
>> Was fun while it lasted, and I never go a ticket in it. It continues to 
>> amaze me that I physically survived that marriage, mentally, well who knows?
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and 
it flared up and burned the car up.  "This is your Corvair.  This was 
your Corvair on drugs."   Somehow or other his parents discovered the 
initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough 
money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old 
clapped-out beetle.


A couple of my classmates had old Mustang IIs. One of them was out with her 
friends, ran out of weed, and was looking in the glove box for more using a 
lighter for light to search by. After the girls vacated the car, it burned to 
the ground. Her parents decided that they had endangered their daughter by 
sticking her in a gussied up Pinto, and out of guilt bought her a brand new car 
to replace the sbox she torched. Another girl in my class got a brand new Monte 
Carlo for a graduation present, right before her parents found out she was 
pregnant.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-02 Thread Rich Thomas

With the car or with the wife?

My auntie got a Corvair back in the late 60s or early 70s, used.  I 
remember it was a light metallic blue sort of color, with a blue 
interior.  It had this chrome kleenex box holder mounted on a swinging 
arm under the glove box, it was really cool.  You could reach down and 
swing the holder out, grab a wipe, and when you hit it the spring would 
swing it back in.  Looking back, I really liked that car, both the 
styling(it was the more rounded version) and the color.  It might have 
been the turbo, I vaguely remember my dad and uncles talking about it as 
being sorta cool.


I had a buddy in high school who had an older one, clapped out in sorta 
turd brown color in and out.  He rigged up a hose from the dash to the 
trunk, wherein he would stash a bottle of whiskey with the hose end in 
it, and while driving around on a Sat night be able to take a little 
toot off the whiskey.  Very inventive.  One morning we were all in 
class, and heard all these fire trucks and such coming to the school.  
So we go look out the window, his car was parked down the street a bit, 
and see the firemen spraying the car, it was burning and belching 
smoke.  Turns out he had a left a roach smoldering in the ash tray, and 
it flared up and burned the car up.  "This is your Corvair.  This was 
your Corvair on drugs."   Somehow or other his parents discovered the 
initiating event, and he was forced to ride the bus until he made enough 
money (working at Mac's diner) to buy some other s--box, I think an old 
clapped-out beetle.


--R

On 12/2/11 12:40 AM, Fred Moir wrote:
Was fun while it lasted, and I never go a ticket in it. It continues 
to amaze me that I physically survived that marriage, mentally, well 
who knows?


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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming

2011-12-02 Thread Dave Walton
Many people drive on tires that are over 10 years old and have never had an 
incident. Some have also died doing the same thing.

Do you feel lucky?

One reason I put my loved ones in a Mercedes is to stack the odds in their 
favor. I'm not going to undo that by trying to save $100 on tires. 

Firestone used to have a production facility here in Cleveland a while back. I 
knew the plant manager. He HAD to use Firestone tires on his car. He would only 
put Michelin's on his wife's car. I admired his thinking. 

-Dave Walton

On Dec 2, 2011, at 8:13 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

> Guys, 
> I can only tell you my experience with TWO 1964 Corvairs. They ran great and 
> they did corner "like they were on rails". I once took an Olds F85 small V8 
> off the line at a redlight. I was a 4 spd manual and he was an automatic. I 
> did not experience any over steer or traction problems. Again, they would 
> leak too much oil. Mine ran great because I had a Chevy mechanic who told me 
> how much I could tweak the timing and points and not hurt anything. Really 
> made the cars run with a lot more power and better mileage as well. And yes I 
> saw several wrecked in junk yards when I was seeking parts (during college so 
> I did most of my own repairs), but then I saw a lot of equally smashed VW 
> bugs and larger cars and Ralph never attacked any of them. I always thought 
> Ralph had a personal vendetta against the Corvair and GM. And yes Fred, that 
> 140hp turbo Monza was something else! Just dreaming of the good ole days :-)) 
> Best Wishes, 
> 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
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> www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique) 
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Re: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?

2011-12-01 Thread Peter Frederick



-Original Message-
>From: Fred Moir 
>Sent: Dec 1, 2011 11:40 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: [MBZ] Corvair and Globule warming?
>
>I had a '65 Corvair. There I said it.
>Whilst working for Raytheon research in Waltham MA put 60 pounds of 
>concrete in the front well, early radials, set up by a GM mechanical 
>repair genius, Air Research double (stacked) turbo on a 140hp engine and 
>Mad Fred was loose on the road.
>It went like stink and cornered like it was on rails, drank (cheap) gas 
>by the bucket-full, and leaked just enough oil to fog up the windows 
>with a gooey film. Until, that is, "The First Wife", decided that it was 
>her car and smoked the engine etc, etc, etc.
Other than the serious oversteer, then 65 wasn't too bad for a 60's GM product. 
 

Peter

>Was fun while it lasted, and I never go a ticket in it. It continues to 
>amaze me that I physically survived that marriage, mentally, well who knows?
>
>-- 
>Fred Moir
>Lynn MA
>Diesel preferred
>
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