Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
My 2014 E250 ( former PA car) had the subframe rust out but replacement was covered under an extended warranty. On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 1:29 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If you drive in the winter on salted roads, in my experience rust is > inevitable. Some cars hold out longer than others before it becomes a > visible problem. > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 23:38, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:54:21 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty > >> cars out there. These do not seem prone to rust. > > > > It's good to know they have gotten the rust proofing right. > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
If you drive in the winter on salted roads, in my experience rust is inevitable. Some cars hold out longer than others before it becomes a visible problem. On Sun, Aug 6, 2023, at 23:38, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:54:21 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty >> cars out there. These do not seem prone to rust. > > It's good to know they have gotten the rust proofing right. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:54:21 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty > cars out there. These do not seem prone to rust. It's good to know they have gotten the rust proofing right. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
I have never seen any rust on a X/W164, but I am sure there are rusty cars out there. These do not seem prone to rust. On 8/6/2023 10:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:50:31 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak around the door handle. Oh, OK. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 22:50:31 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak > around the door handle. Oh, OK. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
It is not rust, just a dirty water stain probably from a slight leak around the door handle. On 8/6/2023 8:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:45:20 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this as well as the window regulator. And there is something in the upper-left of your "inside the door" picture which is starting to rust and leaving a trail of rust down the inside of the door. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
Good write up. Strong work. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wife is out of town and she tore up 2 things on the GL. First the rear hatch > latch failed. Motor tried to suck in the door but it just doesn’t latch. This > must be a common failure as new Chinese ones are available for less than $40 > all over eBay. The new dealer part is $300+ IIRC. Next thing was she said she > heard a loud noise and now car won’t go over 20. That was the AAA debacle. > > First up fix the issue that caused it to be towed home. I guess the loud > noise was the intercooler hose popping off. The 642 behaves very strangely, > surges, and barely moves with the hose off. Fixed that. > > Next up, the rear hatch. That job took all of 15 minutes. The cheap Chinese > latch looked identical to the one that came off the car. Will see how long it > lasts. There are no tools required to remove all the trim around the back > hatch and the rear inside panel. Everything is just plastic and held in with > clips, just pops loose with your hands but be careful not to break anything. > That now works great. > > Next project was the failed drivers door lock actuator. These are not like > the old days where you have a latch assembly and a separate actuator. It’s > all one unit. This has not been working for a year so I decided to tackle the > job. Pulled the one off one of the parts cars in the back 40. On the GL you > have to pull the window regulator which is actually the entire inside panel > of the door. There are a bunch of torx screws along the edge and the entire > window regulator assembly gets pulled out along with the latch assembly all > as 1 unit. The door latch is mounted to the window regulator. > > With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide > open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the > door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing > metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this > as well as the window regulator. > > Typically you just swap the whole lock assembly which best I can describe has > 2 parts. It’s like a puzzle figuring it all out the first time. On my car it > has keyless go, and the parts car does not so I could not simply swap the > whole assembly over because there is an extra harness that that donor part > does not have. I had to separate the core door latch assembly from the other > plastic piece that contains parts for the outside door handle. There is a > cable that runs from the secondary assembly that when the outside door handle > is pulled, it opens the latch. Had to do a little disassembly of this part to > unhook the cable, then transfer it to the good latch out of the parts car. > > After reinstalling the now complete latch assembly onto the window regulator, > it was now time to install the whole mess back in the door. You have to get > it somewhat into place and then working thru the small holes where the > outside door handle goes, fish the latch assembly into place then secured it > with screws. Put everything back together and now the wife will not have to > manually lock the drivers door. > > I will say after figuring out how the GL door panel comes off, there are only > 2 actual screws holding it in place, remove those and the rest is just clips. > Comes off and goes back on super easy. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 19:45:20 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is > wide open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs > across the door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like > the big thing metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic > attached showing this as well as the window regulator. And there is something in the upper-left of your "inside the door" picture which is starting to rust and leaving a trail of rust down the inside of the door. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Difference in build quality between old and new MB, aka todays GL adventures
Attaboy!! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wife is out of town and she tore up 2 things on the GL. First the rear hatch > latch failed. Motor tried to suck in the door but it just doesn’t latch. This > must be a common failure as new Chinese ones are available for less than $40 > all over eBay. The new dealer part is $300+ IIRC. Next thing was she said she > heard a loud noise and now car won’t go over 20. That was the AAA debacle. > > First up fix the issue that caused it to be towed home. I guess the loud > noise was the intercooler hose popping off. The 642 behaves very strangely, > surges, and barely moves with the hose off. Fixed that. > > Next up, the rear hatch. That job took all of 15 minutes. The cheap Chinese > latch looked identical to the one that came off the car. Will see how long it > lasts. There are no tools required to remove all the trim around the back > hatch and the rear inside panel. Everything is just plastic and held in with > clips, just pops loose with your hands but be careful not to break anything. > That now works great. > > Next project was the failed drivers door lock actuator. These are not like > the old days where you have a latch assembly and a separate actuator. It’s > all one unit. This has not been working for a year so I decided to tackle the > job. Pulled the one off one of the parts cars in the back 40. On the GL you > have to pull the window regulator which is actually the entire inside panel > of the door. There are a bunch of torx screws along the edge and the entire > window regulator assembly gets pulled out along with the latch assembly all > as 1 unit. The door latch is mounted to the window regulator. > > With the window regulator out, the entire center of the inner door is wide > open. Within, there is a flimsy piece of sheet metal that runs across the > door that I guess is supposed to reenforce it. It’s not like the big thing > metal bar in the older cars such as 123, 126 etc. Pic attached showing this > as well as the window regulator. > > Typically you just swap the whole lock assembly which best I can describe has > 2 parts. It’s like a puzzle figuring it all out the first time. On my car it > has keyless go, and the parts car does not so I could not simply swap the > whole assembly over because there is an extra harness that that donor part > does not have. I had to separate the core door latch assembly from the other > plastic piece that contains parts for the outside door handle. There is a > cable that runs from the secondary assembly that when the outside door handle > is pulled, it opens the latch. Had to do a little disassembly of this part to > unhook the cable, then transfer it to the good latch out of the parts car. > > After reinstalling the now complete latch assembly onto the window regulator, > it was now time to install the whole mess back in the door. You have to get > it somewhat into place and then working thru the small holes where the > outside door handle goes, fish the latch assembly into place then secured it > with screws. Put everything back together and now the wife will not have to > manually lock the drivers door. > > I will say after figuring out how the GL door panel comes off, there are only > 2 actual screws holding it in place, remove those and the rest is just clips. > Comes off and goes back on super easy. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
