Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Glad to hear you're at least one step ahead of me! -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Frederick Moir wrote: >Less than 0.004 in. end to end. > >Fred Moir >Lynn MA >Diesel preferred. > > >> >> From: Max >>To: Mercedes Discussion List >>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM >>Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday >> >> >>Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be >checked for flat. >>-- >>Max Dillon >>Charleston, SC >>'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >>Curt Raymond wrote: >> >>>The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots >on >>>the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like >>>the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it >>>didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly >>>done, maybe later this week. >> >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Less than 0.004 in. end to end. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Max >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday > > >Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked >for flat. >-- >Max Dillon >Charleston, SC >'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > >Curt Raymond wrote: > >>The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on >>the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like >>the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it >>didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly >>done, maybe later this week. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked for flat. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Curt Raymond wrote: >The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on >the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like >the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it >didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly >done, maybe later this week. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 09:39:30 -0400 From: Max To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Congrats! How did the old gasket look? Any obvious failure points? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: HEAD GASKET Need I say more? Of course I do. Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. Wow! That was a LONG day! Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket over the next couple days. We will be waiting for them. I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
On May 12, 2013, at 9:16 AM, "Craig" wrote: >> If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator >> reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this >> repair actually fixed the problem... > > Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. I will second that. A happy wife is a happy life or something like that... Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
He lives in Mass, he's used to it. --R On 5/12/13 10:16 AM, Craig wrote: With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > HEAD GASKET > Need I say more? > > Of course I do. > Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into > my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, > hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so > I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for > the night. Wow! That was a LONG day! > Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on > Photobucket over the next couple days. We will be waiting for them. > I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young and only abusing your body for the first few times > If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator > reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this > repair actually fixed the problem... Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Congrats! How did the old gasket look? Any obvious failure points? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
That was an awesome day. Headgaskets are now demystified! Can't wait to hear how things go once you get the rad installed and the car running. Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > HEAD GASKET > Need I say more? > > Of course I do. > Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my > '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, > etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back > the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night. > > Interestingly we only needed one trip out which was actually just for a tap > to chase the threads in one head bolt hole. > > Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket > over the next couple days. > > I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. If I can find time among > mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in > there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem... > > -Curt > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Yup. IIRC, production was less than 10k, possibly less than 5k. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 4, 2013, at 20:00, Mitch Haley wrote: > Max wrote: >> 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of >> production. > > For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Max wrote: 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of production. John Reames wrote: >That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a >similar apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long >section of pipe and the filter/catalyst. > >The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the >time tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!) > > >-- >John W Reames >jream...@verizon.net >Home: +14106646986 >Mobile: +14437915905 > >On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon >wrote: > >> Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my >exhaust situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter >rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a >straight pipe. Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car >sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust. >> >> Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for >me. >> >> Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket >converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I >ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the >original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and >the exhaust). >> >> All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of >us to fit the pieces up and weld it together. >> >> My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from >the exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust >to American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but >it still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few >layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
I'll try to find one. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind? WILTON wrote: ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler seal putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and pipe? There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to them. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust. Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me. Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust). All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit the pieces up and weld it together. My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a similar apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long section of pipe and the filter/catalyst. The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the time tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon wrote: > Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust > situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, > so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could > get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart > can exhaust. > > Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me. > > Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket > converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered > that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original muffler pipe > (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust). > > All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit > the pieces up and weld it together. > > My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the > exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American > exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a > bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps > and get a better seal. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind? WILTON wrote: >ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler >seal >putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and >pipe? >There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to >them. > >Wilton > >- Original Message - >From: "Max Dillon" >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM >Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday > > >Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my >exhaust >situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and >broke, >so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never >could >get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner >fart >can exhaust. > >Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for >me. > >Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket >converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I >ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the >original >muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the >exhaust). > >All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us >to >fit the pieces up and weld it together. > >My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the >exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to >American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it > >still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers >to >fill up the gaps and get a better seal. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
ATTABOY coming up! How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler seal putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and pipe? There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to them. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust situation. You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe. Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust. Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me. Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket converters for diesel engines. Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered that and a bunch of adapters. We also used some of the original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust). All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit the pieces up and weld it together. My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the exhaust manifold). Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American exhaust pipe sizes. I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a bit. Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com