Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-13 Thread Max
Glad to hear you're at least one step ahead of me!
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Frederick Moir  wrote:

>Less than 0.004 in. end to end.
> 
>Fred Moir
>Lynn MA
>Diesel preferred.
>
>
>>
>> From: Max 
>>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
>> 
>>
>>Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be
>checked for flat.
>>-- 
>>Max Dillon
>>Charleston, SC
>>'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>>
>>Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>
>>>The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots
>on
>>>the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like
>>>the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it
>>>didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly
>>>done, maybe later this week.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-13 Thread Frederick Moir
Less than 0.004 in. end to end.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Max 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 4:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
> 
>
>Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked 
>for flat.
>-- 
>Max Dillon
>Charleston, SC
>'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>
>Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>>The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on
>>the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like
>>the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it
>>didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly
>>done, maybe later this week.
>
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-13 Thread Max
Sounds like there is a possibility the head is warped and should be checked for 
flat.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond  wrote:

>The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on
>the head where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like
>the head must have lifted when I overheated it in December and it
>didn't settle correctly... We'll know more when I get the assembly
>done, maybe later this week.

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-13 Thread Curt Raymond
The head gasket looked okay but there were several "polished" spots on the head 
where combustion gasses were clearly getting by. Seems like the head must have 
lifted when I overheated it in December and it didn't settle correctly... We'll 
know more when I get the assembly done, maybe later this week.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 09:39:30 -0400
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Congrats!  How did the old gasket look?  Any obvious failure points?
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread WILTON

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday



On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:


HEAD GASKET
Need I say more?

Of course I do.
Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into
my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud,
hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so
I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for
the night.


Wow! That was a LONG day!



Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on
Photobucket over the next couple days.


We will be waiting for them.



I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today.


With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young
and only abusing your body for the first few times



If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator
reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this
repair actually fixed the problem...


Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 12, 2013, at 9:16 AM, "Craig"  wrote:

>> If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator
>> reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this
>> repair actually fixed the problem...
> 
> Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife.


I will second that. A happy wife is a happy life or something like that...

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread Rich Thomas

He lives in Mass, he's used to it.

--R

On 5/12/13 10:16 AM, Craig wrote:

With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young
and only abusing your body for the first few times




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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread Craig
On Sun, 12 May 2013 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> HEAD GASKET
> Need I say more?
> 
> Of course I do.
> Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into
> my '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud,
> hoses, etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so
> I could back the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for
> the night.

Wow! That was a LONG day!


> Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on
> Photobucket over the next couple days.

We will be waiting for them.


> I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today.

With all that bending over, yes, it's surprising. But then you are young
and only abusing your body for the first few times


> If I can find time among mother's day duties I'll get the radiator
> reinstalled and get some coolant in there so I can prove that this
> repair actually fixed the problem...

Give it a rest. Pay attention to your wife.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread Max
Congrats!  How did the old gasket look?  Any obvious failure points?
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Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-12 Thread dseretakis
That was an awesome day. Headgaskets are now demystified!  Can't wait to hear 
how things go once you get the rad installed and the car running.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 12, 2013, at 7:50 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> HEAD GASKET
> Need I say more?
> 
> Of course I do.
> Yesterday Fred, Dwight, Dimitri and I managed to get a head gasket into my 
> '78 240D. I started pulling parts at about 7:30am (radiator, shroud, hoses, 
> etc) and ended with Fred and I starting the engine at 10:30pm so I could back 
> the nose out of the garage so I could shut the door for the night.
> 
> Interestingly we only needed one trip out which was actually just for a tap 
> to chase the threads in one head bolt hole.
> 
> Theres loads of pictures and even some video. I'll get them up on Photobucket 
> over the next couple days.
> 
> I'm surprised that I can move pretty well today. If I can find time among 
> mother's day duties I'll get the radiator reinstalled and get some coolant in 
> there so I can prove that this repair actually fixed the problem...
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-05 Thread John Reames
Yup. IIRC, production was less than 10k, possibly less than 5k.

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On May 4, 2013, at 20:00, Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Max wrote:
>> 210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of 
>> production.
> 
> For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread Mitch Haley

Max wrote:

210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of 
production.


For the turbo exhaust, the multiple years were 1998 and 1999.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread Max
210 had OM606 for multiple years, for the 124 it was a single year of 
production.

John Reames  wrote:

>That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a
>similar apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long
>section of pipe and the filter/catalyst.  
>
>The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the
>time tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!)
>
>
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>
>On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon 
>wrote:
>
>> Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my
>exhaust situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter
>rusted and broke, so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a
>straight pipe.  Never could get all the joints to seal, poor car
>sounded like it had a rice burner fart can exhaust.
>> 
>> Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for
>me.
>> 
>> Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket
>converters for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I
>ordered that and a bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the
>original muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and
>the exhaust).
>> 
>> All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of
>us to fit the pieces up and weld it together.
>> 
>> My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from
>the exhaust manifold).  Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust
>to American exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps there, but
>it still leaks a bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few
>layers to fill up the gaps and get a better seal.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON

I'll try to find one.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday



Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind?

WILTON  wrote:


ATTABOY coming up!  How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler
seal 
putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and

pipe?
There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to
them.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday


Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my
exhaust 
situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and
broke, 
so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe.  Never
could 
get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner
fart 
can exhaust.


Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for
me.

Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket 
converters for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I 
ordered that and a bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the
original 
muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the

exhaust).

All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us
to 
fit the pieces up and weld it together.


My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the 
exhaust manifold).  Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to 
American exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it


still leaks a bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers
to 
fill up the gaps and get a better seal.


--
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread John Reames
That's odd; I had to replace the front pipe on my 99, which includes a similar 
apparatus. It rotted out right at the weld between the long section of pipe and 
the filter/catalyst.  

The dealer said that the things were ONLY available refurb. $523 by the time 
tax and a new donut were added on. ($150 core!)


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On Apr 27, 2013, at 20:05, Max Dillon  wrote:

> Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust 
> situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, 
> so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe.  Never could 
> get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart 
> can exhaust.
> 
> Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me.
> 
> Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket 
> converters for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I ordered 
> that and a bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the original muffler pipe 
> (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust).
> 
> All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to fit 
> the pieces up and weld it together.
> 
> My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the 
> exhaust manifold).  Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to American 
> exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it still leaks a 
> bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to fill up the gaps 
> and get a better seal.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Can you link to a picture of the clamp you have in mind?

WILTON  wrote:

>ATTABOY coming up!  How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler
>seal 
>putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and
>pipe?
>There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to
>them.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Max Dillon" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
>Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday
>
>
>Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my
>exhaust 
>situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and
>broke, 
>so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe.  Never
>could 
>get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner
>fart 
>can exhaust.
>
>Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for
>me.
>
>Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket 
>converters for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I 
>ordered that and a bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the
>original 
>muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the
>exhaust).
>
>All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us
>to 
>fit the pieces up and weld it together.
>
>My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the 
>exhaust manifold).  Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to 
>American exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it
>
>still leaks a bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers
>to 
>fill up the gaps and get a better seal.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston, SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

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Re: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY coming up!  How 'bout a wide plumbing clamp with some muffler seal 
putty ('don't know what it's called) gooped under it between clamp and pipe?

There are some plumbing clamps that already have the "can" attached to them.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Max Dillon" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 8:05 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I spent my Saturday


Went over to a friends place and made a more permanent fix to my exhaust 
situation.  You may remember that the catalytic converter rusted and broke, 
so I cut it out and tried to substitute with a straight pipe.  Never could 
get all the joints to seal, poor car sounded like it had a rice burner fart 
can exhaust.


Price of a new converter from MB is north of $1600, not an option for me.

Fellow on the MBCA forum gave me some info on Magnaflow aftermarket 
converters for diesel engines.  Found one for $90 from O'reilly, so I 
ordered that and a bunch of adapters.  We also used some of the original 
muffler pipe (I had earlier replaced both the resonator and the exhaust).


All told, about $130 in parts, then about four hours for the two of us to 
fit the pieces up and weld it together.


My only beef is the connection to the two front pipes (coming from the 
exhaust manifold).  Hard to find a good match from metric exhaust to 
American exhaust pipe sizes.  I've got two exhaust clamps there, but it 
still leaks a bit.  Probably need to cut up a can and wrap a few layers to 
fill up the gaps and get a better seal.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20






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