Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw.. NOW Quality and Production

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
I visited my doc a month or two ago, and he casually mentioned his 
grandparents had left their papers to Purdue Univ where I went, did 
not know much more than that about it.  His grandfather and 
grandmother were the "Cheaper by the Dozen" family, and his father 
was one of the dozen.  (The house is still on Nantucket, my doc goes 
there now and again).  I knew about that.


Anyway, I did not know anything about this so I looked it up -- 
Frank and Lillian Gilbreth were the pioneers of time and motion 
studies, and were quite well known in the 20s on (or even earlier). 
This applied to the "dozen" and keeping that whole enterprise going. 
Judging by my doc, the whole family is quite interesting. He says 
some of his cousins still live on Nantucket and are somewhat, uh, 
eccentric, imagine that.


Anyway, kinda interesting stuff.  You can google their names and get 
a lot of info.



http://gilbrethnetwork.tripod.com/bio.html

--R


Productivity, yes.  Quality no.

Gilbreath is the pioneer of time and motion studies, the backbone of 
industrial engineering for decades.  Time studies and bean counters 
led to the downfall of merkun quality.  Therbligs was the measure.


Enter Dr. Deming, who really just took Shewhart's work and 
popularized it, and Ford's "discovery" of its crappy quality. 
Shewhart's control charts are one of the many tools of quality.  The 
rise of quality led to the near demise of industrial engineering, 
while industrial technologists rose.  Later the colleges of 
engineering woke up, "discovered" quality, and used their clout to 
destroy Industrial Technology departments in academia, thus assuring 
the resurgence of industrial engineering.


What is left of time and motion studies became "ergonomics" or 
"occupational engineering" but therbligs are out


Anyhow, a good primer on Quality is Walter Shewhart's book.

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Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw.. NOW Quality and Production

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I visited my doc a month or two ago, and he casually mentioned his 
grandparents had left their papers to Purdue Univ where I went, did not 
know much more than that about it.  His grandfather and grandmother were 
the "Cheaper by the Dozen" family, and his father was one of the dozen.  
(The house is still on Nantucket, my doc goes there now and again).  I 
knew about that.


Anyway, I did not know anything about this so I looked it up -- Frank 
and Lillian Gilbreth were the pioneers of time and motion studies, and 
were quite well known in the 20s on (or even earlier). This applied to 
the "dozen" and keeping that whole enterprise going.  Judging by my doc, 
the whole family is quite interesting. He says some of his cousins still 
live on Nantucket and are somewhat, uh, eccentric, imagine that.


Anyway, kinda interesting stuff.  You can google their names and get a 
lot of info.



http://gilbrethnetwork.tripod.com/bio.html

--R



On 8/7/13 1:08 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from
the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming).  The US developed/used these
quality approaches for the massive WWII war production.  The ironic part is
that US industry then blew off all these quality lessons after the war and
focused on just making money, which wasn't hard for the only surviving
industrial base in the world.  That came to a grinding halt when the
Japanese (using quality methods learned from us) became the world leader for
quality back in the 80s and 90s.  We older folks recall the 50s and 60s when
"made in Japan" meant junk.

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Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something
American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s.

I think it was on here somebody told a good anecdote where an
American car maker paired up with an Asian one and learned about
strict quality control...


-Curt



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