Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 20:47:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  It also gets kicked up by the cars passing you in the opposite
> direction. -Curt

Good point!


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It also gets kicked up by the cars passing you in the opposite direction.
-Curt

On Thursday, February 13, 2020, 3:29:21 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I think that the spreaders tend to dump the sand and salt in the middle 
of the road so the left side of the vehicle tends to get salted worse 
than the right side. There may be more splash effect on the side with 
oncoming traffic too so the left side gets beaten up. I wonder if the 
reverse is true in countries where they drive on the left? If they had a 
similar climate it might be a test of the theory!

I did get carried away with the "etc". I was in a hurry and not wanting 
to spend a lot of time explaining or adding more text so I was able to 
justify it in my own mind.

RB


On 13/02/2020 2:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:54:11 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> all wore off over winter. I also used rubber conveyor belting in the
>> rear wheel wells to prevent the snow and crud from being thrown up into
>> the rear bumper etc
>  From the way our BRV has rusted on the driver's side and not on the
> passenger side, it seems the impact of ice, snow, and salt being thrown
> against the side by a passing snow plow makes rust more likely.
>
>
>> Anybody count the number of times I have used "etc"?
> Five times without quotes, one time with quotes.
>
>
> Craig
>


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I think that the spreaders tend to dump the sand and salt in the middle 
of the road so the left side of the vehicle tends to get salted worse 
than the right side. There may be more splash effect on the side with 
oncoming traffic too so the left side gets beaten up. I wonder if the 
reverse is true in countries where they drive on the left? If they had a 
similar climate it might be a test of the theory!


I did get carried away with the "etc". I was in a hurry and not wanting 
to spend a lot of time explaining or adding more text so I was able to 
justify it in my own mind.


RB


On 13/02/2020 2:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:54:11 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:


all wore off over winter. I also used rubber conveyor belting in the
rear wheel wells to prevent the snow and crud from being thrown up into
the rear bumper etc

 From the way our BRV has rusted on the driver's side and not on the
passenger side, it seems the impact of ice, snow, and salt being thrown
against the side by a passing snow plow makes rust more likely.



Anybody count the number of times I have used "etc"?

Five times without quotes, one time with quotes.


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 10:54:11 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> all wore off over winter. I also used rubber conveyor belting in the
> rear wheel wells to prevent the snow and crud from being thrown up into 
> the rear bumper etc

>From the way our BRV has rusted on the driver's side and not on the
passenger side, it seems the impact of ice, snow, and salt being thrown
against the side by a passing snow plow makes rust more likely.


> Anybody count the number of times I have used "etc"?

Five times without quotes, one time with quotes.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/02/2020 10:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

I still mourn the demise of my /8 220D.

I miss mine (W115 200D) too.  It had a lot of character, charm.  Damned salt!

-- Jim


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You didn't keep it well enough oiled?

Difficult, I know, but spraying the heck out of it with oil of some sort 
every fall certainly helps if you plan to drive it in winter weather.


I tried a whole lot of different things on my old Suburban. I used AT 
fluid, Chainsaw bar oil, used engine oil, etc on the bottom and under 
the fenders on the Suburban. Some was more successful than others but 
all wore off over winter. I also used rubber conveyor belting in the 
rear wheel wells to prevent the snow and crud from being thrown up into 
the rear bumper etc. I had the rear AC lines corrode twice before I put 
the rubber belting in to control the distribution of salty snow etc. 
After that, the aluminum lines survived until I sold the truck.


With my current F150 I have had it sprayed by a shop that uses the Krown 
rustproofing system every fall before the snow comes. They spray the 
underside and in the doors etc. The oily, waxy fluid does not smell as 
bad as some of the oils that I used to spray under the Suburban.


I have also used Fluid Film on vehicles to spray inside doors etc. It 
has a bit of a peculiar smell at the outset and is not appreciated by my 
wife.


Anybody count the number of times I have used "etc"?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I still mourn the demise of my /8 220D.

I miss mine (W115 200D) too.  It had a lot of character, charm.  Damned salt!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Clay via Mercedes]

I still mourn the demise of my /8 220D.  Other than the floor cancer and other 
tin worm issues, she was a joy to drive.  Manual, no options, just worked.  I 
did take her on the freeway quite a bit and she had no issue keeping up with 
traffic and even hit her near redline of 84mph for ten miles on a barren 
stretch of road.  She was much happier at 70.

clay

> On Feb 11, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My W115 diesel (manual transmission) was eminently drivable!  _No_ complaints
> about acceleration, etc.  And, a reliable 30+ MPG.  Never took a highway 
> trip, so
> I don't know if it could have beat that.
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The fins look wimpy to me - it either needs more, or none. I like the
Ponton and earlier bodies better - I've always wanted one with suicide
doors.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> I don't mind the fins. I think I prefer the fins to the round look of
> the ponton.


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I don't mind the fins. I think I prefer the fins to the round look of 
the ponton.


RB

On 12/02/2020 1:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Me too! I don't like the fins, but that speedo makes up for it.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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Yes I  loved that vertical bar speedo.






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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Me too! I don't like the fins, but that speedo makes up for it.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:58 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes I  loved that vertical bar speedo.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My W115 diesel (manual transmission) was eminently drivable!  _No_ complaints
about acceleration, etc.  And, a reliable 30+ MPG.  Never took a highway trip, 
so
I don't know if it could have beat that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I  loved that vertical bar speedo.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020, 8:55 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Add to the 4 spd on the column, a speedo that goes up and down, and the
> economy and durability of an OM621 and you have a really fin (fun) car.
>
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > February 11, 2020 at 7:40 PM
> > Kind of cool. I drove a 4 speed finnie at used dealer once but didn't buy
> > it.
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Add to the 4 spd on the column, a speedo that goes up and down, and the 
economy and durability of an OM621 and you have a really fin (fun) car.



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
February 11, 2020 at 7:40 PM
Kind of cool. I drove a 4 speed finnie at used dealer once but didn't buy
it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI



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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Kind of cool. I drove a 4 speed finnie at used dealer once but didn't buy
it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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>  I'd like that car but at half that money. I've never really driven a
> column shift manual...
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 6:21:54 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  Hard to say. You can’t get much more basic and “blah” than a W114 with
> nothing on it. Only thing that would have detracted more would be if it had
> been a diesel. I wouldn’t mind a diesel, but I believe a lot of people
> think they’re real slugs and unsafe on modern roads - like a 240D!
>
> Not a lot of love for the W114 chassis cars, I think, unless it’s a coupe.
> And even those don’t seem to do all that well.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if
> you’re planning on getting a good price.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> > I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty
> good price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no sunroof,
> no power windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a plus but I
> would think that generally, people prefer cars that are pretty well loaded.
> >
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I think there’s something special about these plain janes cars.  Simple,
nothing to do but enjoy the suspension, interior quality, feeling of the
gearshift, sound of the engine... and enjoy the idea of a simple, slow, low
option car built with exceptional quality that can continue running for 50
years that will never be made again by any manufacturer.

If you want power windows go buy a hyundai!

Easily worth $10k.

Jaime


On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:52 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Should have sold for 10K.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'd like that car but at half that money. I've never really driven a
> column shift manual...
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 6:21:54 PM EST, Dan Penoff via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > Hard to say. You can’t get much more basic and “blah” than a W114 with
> nothing on it. Only thing that would have detracted more would be if it had
> been a diesel. I wouldn’t mind a diesel, but I believe a lot of people
> think they’re real slugs and unsafe on modern roads - like a 240D!
> >
> > Not a lot of love for the W114 chassis cars, I think, unless it’s a
> coupe. And even those don’t seem to do all that well.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if
> you’re planning on getting a good price.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty
> good price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no sunroof,
> no power windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a plus but I
> would think that generally, people prefer cars that are pretty well loaded.
> >>
> >> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Should have sold for 10K.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:53 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd like that car but at half that money. I've never really driven a column 
> shift manual...
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 6:21:54 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Hard to say. You can’t get much more basic and “blah” than a W114 with 
> nothing on it. Only thing that would have detracted more would be if it had 
> been a diesel. I wouldn’t mind a diesel, but I believe a lot of people think 
> they’re real slugs and unsafe on modern roads - like a 240D!
> 
> Not a lot of love for the W114 chassis cars, I think, unless it’s a coupe. 
> And even those don’t seem to do all that well.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if you’re 
>>> planning on getting a good price.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>> I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty good 
>> price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no sunroof, no 
>> power windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a plus but I would 
>> think that generally, people prefer cars that are pretty well loaded.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

While it's not good for "fast" driving/shifting, I did enjoy the column 4
speed manual in both the '66 220S and the '70 220D.

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 5:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I'd like that car but at half that money. I've never really driven a
> column shift manual...
> -Curt
>

-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I'd like that car but at half that money. I've never really driven a column 
shift manual...
-Curt

On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 6:21:54 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Hard to say. You can’t get much more basic and “blah” than a W114 with nothing 
on it. Only thing that would have detracted more would be if it had been a 
diesel. I wouldn’t mind a diesel, but I believe a lot of people think they’re 
real slugs and unsafe on modern roads - like a 240D!

Not a lot of love for the W114 chassis cars, I think, unless it’s a coupe. And 
even those don’t seem to do all that well.

-D


> On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if you’re 
>> planning on getting a good price.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty good 
> price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no sunroof, no power 
> windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a plus but I would think 
> that generally, people prefer cars that are pretty well loaded.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hard to say. You can’t get much more basic and “blah” than a W114 with nothing 
on it. Only thing that would have detracted more would be if it had been a 
diesel. I wouldn’t mind a diesel, but I believe a lot of people think they’re 
real slugs and unsafe on modern roads - like a 240D!

Not a lot of love for the W114 chassis cars, I think, unless it’s a coupe. And 
even those don’t seem to do all that well.

-D


> On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if you’re 
>> planning on getting a good price.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty good 
> price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no sunroof, no power 
> windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a plus but I would think 
> that generally, people prefer cars that are pretty well loaded.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 11/02/2020 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if you’re 
planning on getting a good price.

-D


I wonder what he hoped to get? I would have thought $6600 was a pretty 
good price for a very basic 4 cylinder gas engine car. No AC, no 
sunroof, no power windows etc. I know some folks would think that was a 
plus but I would think that generally, people prefer cars that are 
pretty well loaded.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

RNM, looks to be an unresponsive seller. A major faux paux on BaT if you’re 
planning on getting a good price.

-D


On Feb 11, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> 
> Bottom of the line but clean with a manual tranmission on he column. Can't
> say I like the cream/dark blue color combination.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-mercedes-benz-220-4/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-02-11
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