Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
yeah a 5 and 10 yr WH (or ever how many years) is the same unit with a longer warranty you pay for, so there's that. As far as on-demand, I have seen these little tanks like 2-3 gallons you can put at the point of use which will allow you to do hand washing, dish rinsing, etc. without triggering the main unit and giving you a bit of pad to use for those tasks. Kinda makes sense even with a big unit that might be some distance from the point of use. They aren't much and can sit under a sink and plug into a 110V circuit like your disposer or dishwasher, basically a big hot pot there with hot water when you want it Right Now. --FT On 8/27/20 4:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I recently installed an AO Smith gas water heater to replace the original in our house that developed a leak (after 20-ish years of service). Bought it at Lowes, installed it myself. No complaints so far. Also got a $100 rebate from the gas company. At the time I asked a few questions here, and someone said that there's really no difference in build quality between the 6 or 10 year warranty. They just charge more to offset their risk on having to pay out. You can probably find the thread in archives or your old list email. I would not do the on-demand (assuming that means tankless) if your house didn't orginally have that. They can be OK if your demand pattern is long showers or filling large baths. For handwashing, etc. you end up running a lot more water down the drain before you get hot water at the faucet. And if your clothes washer is like my LG Front Loader, it fills in a series of short on/off cycles and you'll never get hot water from a tankless heater that way. They also can have different venting and gas supply requirements from the typical tank heater. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for over 100 years. -D On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any knowledge of this brand? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
I recently installed an AO Smith gas water heater to replace the original in our house that developed a leak (after 20-ish years of service). Bought it at Lowes, installed it myself. No complaints so far. Also got a $100 rebate from the gas company. At the time I asked a few questions here, and someone said that there's really no difference in build quality between the 6 or 10 year warranty. They just charge more to offset their risk on having to pay out. You can probably find the thread in archives or your old list email. I would not do the on-demand (assuming that means tankless) if your house didn't orginally have that. They can be OK if your demand pattern is long showers or filling large baths. For handwashing, etc. you end up running a lot more water down the drain before you get hot water at the faucet. And if your clothes washer is like my LG Front Loader, it fills in a series of short on/off cycles and you'll never get hot water from a tankless heater that way. They also can have different venting and gas supply requirements from the typical tank heater. Allan Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for over > 100 years. > > -D > >> On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 >> year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford >> White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any >> knowledge of this brand? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
On Thu, August 27, 2020 4:14 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 > year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford > White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any > knowledge of this brand? Bradford White used to be considered a bit higher quality than AO Smith, my uncle screwed BWs together for a good many years here in Michigan. Ask for the country of origin, if it's still USA, the BW name itself might be worth something extra, if it's Mexico, who knows, but a Mexican BW probably beats a Chinese whatever by a good margin, if we're importing full size water heaters from China now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
I never heard of that. At least around here. On Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 4:22 PM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Good to know, and it's great that you have another Real Human Being in the > family that knows hot to Fix Things. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for >> over 100 years. >> >> -D >> >> > On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 >> > year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford >> > White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any >> > knowledge of this brand? >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
Good to know, and it's great that you have another Real Human Being in the family that knows hot to Fix Things. On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for > over 100 years. > > -D > > > On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 > > year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford > > White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any > > knowledge of this brand? > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
He also said a lot of utilities rebate the p*ss out of their on demand gas heaters if that’s an option. -D > On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:19 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for over > 100 years. > > -D > >> On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 >> year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford >> White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any >> knowledge of this brand? >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT; GAS HOT WATER HEATER
Plumber son says they’re good, been making water heaters in the U.S. for over 100 years. -D > On Aug 27, 2020, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Our POS "Premier Plus" water heater has conked out 3 months after the 6 > year warranty expired. The plumber wants to replace it with a "Bradford > White", with a 6 or 10 year warranty (extra $200). Anyone have any > knowledge of this brand? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
