Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2008-10-21 Thread Curt Raymond
When I started college that was the situation taking the commuter rail into 
Boston from Fitchburg. Go stand out behind the Salvation Army store...
Now they've built a nice station with a big parking structure, ridership is up 
something like 10,000%...

-Curt

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Pretty
close, but worse. It is an "unmanned" station. There is a building,
about 90 years old that is locked up...so you just wait along the
tracks...out in the elements. There is no platform, so your picture is
pretty accurate as far as that goes. 

Chris


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2008-10-20 Thread Christopher McCann
Pretty close, but worse. It is an "unmanned" station. There is a building, 
about 90 years old that is locked up...so you just wait along the tracks...out 
in the elements. There is no platform, so your picture is pretty accurate as 
far as that goes. 

Chris
 





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Like this? http://www.hebners.net/amtrak/amtStationB/BensonAZ.jpg

Glad to hear Des Moines isn't the only stupid state. My Dad claims the problem 
is that Amtrak stations are state funded and the states don't see any return on 
that money or rather they don't feel like they're seeing any return on it...

-Curt

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Amtrak does not go to Madison, WI either...you have to go about 45 minutes 
north to an abandoned station in a little town, the name of which I forget. 

Anyone ever take Amtrak to Deming, NM? Thoughts on the "station"? LOL!

-Chris

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread Bill Gallagher
Can't remember how long ago, maybe two years or so, King George reduced 
the maintenance budget on Amtrak or child support to the this railroad
   Delays and poor arrival, departure times and poor 
services are expected, but I am waiting for a serious train accident and 
then a congressional report, fault will be finger pointed to Bj(*-HYI 
and nothing will be footed noted about reduction in child support .


Bill
1981 300 TD



Curt Raymond wrote:

No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes 3.5 hours 
to go from Boston to Manhattan.
To fly takes 30 minutes but...
Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so thats at 
LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the seating area 
is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high but 
theres no problem bringing your own food...
Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to eat 
right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and Laguardia 
don't or at least not that I've found.

They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you go. I see 
no reason to EVER fly to NYC...

For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more comfortable... 
Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1, 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane. Irrational I know but there you are.


-Curt

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I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the 
midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to Deming, 
NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are 
(Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas City 
to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost every 
case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.


Chris

 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread andrew strasfogel

It was misspelled several times earlier.  I didn't single you out anyway so
chill.

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Way to make a nit-picking reply to a post that doesn't have the
mis-spelling you're trying to fix.
The Acela doesn't run in the midwest, just the northeast corridor.

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Acela has one 'c' and one 'l'.

On 3/13/07, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My daughter and some of her friends decided they wanted to go to
> Chicago over spring break last year. They thought the train sounded
> like a fun way to get there. After 22 hours to get from Dallas to
> Chicago, they all cashed in their return ticket and flew home. She
> said it was the most miserable trip she'd ever taken.
>
> European and Japanese rail systems are a great way to get around, but
> AMTRAK in the midwest is a joke.
>
>
> Gary Thompson
> Georgetown, TX
> 1995 E320
>
>
> On 3/12/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > you are making me want to go somewhere by train!
> >
> > last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca
to
> > seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> > promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> > different card and tile games with people from the hood we would
never
> > meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i
think
> > if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> > grand.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread Curt Raymond

Way to make a nit-picking reply to a post that doesn't have the mis-spelling 
you're trying to fix.
The Acela doesn't run in the midwest, just the northeast corridor.

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Acela has one 'c' and one 'l'.

On 3/13/07, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My daughter and some of her friends decided they wanted to go to
> Chicago over spring break last year. They thought the train sounded
> like a fun way to get there. After 22 hours to get from Dallas to
> Chicago, they all cashed in their return ticket and flew home. She
> said it was the most miserable trip she'd ever taken.
>
> European and Japanese rail systems are a great way to get around, but
> AMTRAK in the midwest is a joke.
>
>
> Gary Thompson
> Georgetown, TX
> 1995 E320
>
>
> On 3/12/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > you are making me want to go somewhere by train!
> >
> > last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca 
to
> > seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> > promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> > different card and tile games with people from the hood we would 
never
> > meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i 
think
> > if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> > grand.
>
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Andrew, I think you are correct..I believe a camels' urine fed such 
a diet would produce Camel-Purge.

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> What about an exclusively corn and soymeal-fed camel?  Won't its urine 
> have
> properties similar to biodiesel?
>
> On 3/13/07, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Octane..Cetane.It's all the same with camel urine.  Unless, of
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread andrew strasfogel

Acela has one 'c' and one 'l'.

On 3/13/07, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My daughter and some of her friends decided they wanted to go to
Chicago over spring break last year. They thought the train sounded
like a fun way to get there. After 22 hours to get from Dallas to
Chicago, they all cashed in their return ticket and flew home. She
said it was the most miserable trip she'd ever taken.

European and Japanese rail systems are a great way to get around, but
AMTRAK in the midwest is a joke.


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320


On 3/12/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you are making me want to go somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread Gary Thompson

My daughter and some of her friends decided they wanted to go to
Chicago over spring break last year. They thought the train sounded
like a fun way to get there. After 22 hours to get from Dallas to
Chicago, they all cashed in their return ticket and flew home. She
said it was the most miserable trip she'd ever taken.

European and Japanese rail systems are a great way to get around, but
AMTRAK in the midwest is a joke.


Gary Thompson
Georgetown, TX
1995 E320


On 3/12/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

you are making me want to go somewhere by train!

last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
grand.




Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-13 Thread BillR
Not a chance.  Florida roads only went North and South then, especially 
rails.  To ride from Ft. Lauderdale to Ocala means a trip to Tampa first, so 
there must be some routes that do cross state now.  I quit using Amtrak, as 
much as I liked it, because to visit family meant middle of the night trips 
to the train.  Only Ocala arrival now is @ 3AM, departure about 4:30 AM.  40 
years ago there were arrivals from S. Florida 3 - 4 times a day, during the 
work day [I used to pick kids up there for camp].  I enjoy train travel, but 
the schedules just didn't work for me.

BillR
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he meant coast to coast in florida

On 3/12/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24 
hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this 
factoid

come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
> Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
> would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. 
> I

> definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.
>
> Tom Potter
>
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>
> Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
> $800/person, if I remember correctly.
>
> Chris
>
> In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
> "progress" huh?
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you are making me want to go
> somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.
>
> On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
> 3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> > To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> > Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> > Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> > The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
> thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> > I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
> seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> > I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are 
> > high

> but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> > Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places 
> > to

> eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
> Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
> >
> > They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
> go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
> >
> > For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
> took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
> drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
> expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
> comfortable...
> > Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
> 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
> Irrational I know but there you are.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher McCann
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed 
> > by

> >  gummint
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> >
> > I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> > midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
> Deming,
> > NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you 
> > are

> > (Manhattan), but elsewhere 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread Curt Raymond

The Acella runs from Boston to DC. Theres Metroliner service into your area I 
think.

>From Boston to NYC the Acella runs through some very pretty and pretty 
>interesting areas. Where it runs right along the ocean its very pretty. Places 
>like were it runs through Bridgeport. CT just across the river from Groton, CT 
>is pretty interesting including one HUGE building where they apparently build 
>submarines, at least the door is submarine shaped.
I haven't gone south of NYC on the train yet, if I get the opportunity I will 
though.

-Curt

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you are making me want to go somewhere by train!

last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
grand.



 
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The only place I'd even think of suggesting synthetic is better for the car is 
in the transmission. I haven't ever heard anybody say Mobil 1 in the 
transmission didn't work out. Well other than the other poster who had a dirty 
transmission but that wasn't the Mobil 1's fault.

Synthetic engine oil is great, it makes the car start easier when its cold and 
lets my 190D go 10,000 miles between oil changes both of which in this cold 
weather have been GREAT.
If you don't drive your Benz when its cold or can't (or don't want to) take 
advantage of the long change interval then synthetic isn't a good choice for 
you, there are plenty of very good conventional oils.

Synthetic grease, eh, whatever... I play with old snowmobiles, snowmobiles are 
hard on grease. I tried some synthetic, it didn't seem to make any difference, 
things were stiff until they warmed up a little just like with regular grease 
and it disappeared with the exact same annoying regularity. Didn't seem like 
I'd gained anything.

-Curt

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Gee, what happened to the - you must use synthetic - line? Surely this 
must hold for grease as well as oil.

Is the factory MB grease synthetic?  For what it is worth, I have been 
using a red colored synthetic grease in
everything for the past few years. Don't know how good it is - a house 
brand so hard to quantify perhaps - much
more expensive than the name brand non-synthetic stuff.

 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread andrew strasfogel

That's a thought.  Coast of Lake Erie to the coast of Lake Superior?   Gulf
Coast to Maine (Atlantic coast)?

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It came from my steam engine buff friend Louis...I will call him on it and
let you know.

Chris



andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "In the 40's you could go
coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24
hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this factoid
come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E  wrote:
>
> About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
> Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
> would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
> definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.
>
> Tom Potter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak
>
> Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
> $800/person, if I remember correctly.
>
> Chris
>
> In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
> "progress" huh?
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst  wrote: you are making me want to go
> somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.
>
> On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
> 3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> > To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> > Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> > Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> > The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
> thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> > I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
> seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> > I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
> but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> > Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
> eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
> Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
> >
> > They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
> go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
> >
> > For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
> took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
> drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
> expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
> comfortable...
> > Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
> 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
> Irrational I know but there you are.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher McCann
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed by
> >  gummint
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> > midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
> Deming,
> > NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> > (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
> City
> > to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
> every
> > case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread Gary Hurst

it sounds like some kind of speed test deal and nothing that any
passenger could possibly take advantage of

On 3/12/07, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It came from my steam engine buff friend Louis...I will call him on it and let 
you know.

Chris



andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "In the 40's you could go coast to 
coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24 hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this factoid
come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E  wrote:
>
> About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
> Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
> would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
> definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.
>
> Tom Potter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak
>
> Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
> $800/person, if I remember correctly.
>
> Chris
>
> In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
> "progress" huh?
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst  wrote: you are making me want to go
> somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.
>
> On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
> 3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> > To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> > Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> > Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> > The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
> thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> > I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
> seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> > I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
> but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> > Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
> eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
> Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
> >
> > They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
> go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
> >
> > For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
> took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
> drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
> expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
> comfortable...
> > Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
> 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
> Irrational I know but there you are.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher McCann
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed by
> >  gummint
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> > midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
> Deming,
> > NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> > (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
> City
> > to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
> every
> > case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread Christopher McCann
It came from my steam engine buff friend Louis...I will call him on it and let 
you know. 

Chris



andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "In the 40's you could go coast to 
coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24 hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this factoid
come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E  wrote:
>
> About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
> Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
> would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
> definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.
>
> Tom Potter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak
>
> Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
> $800/person, if I remember correctly.
>
> Chris
>
> In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
> "progress" huh?
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst  wrote: you are making me want to go
> somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.
>
> On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
> 3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> > To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> > Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> > Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> > The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
> thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> > I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
> seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> > I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
> but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> > Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
> eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
> Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
> >
> > They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
> go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
> >
> > For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
> took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
> drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
> expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
> comfortable...
> > Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
> 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
> Irrational I know but there you are.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher McCann
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed by
> >  gummint
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> > midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
> Deming,
> > NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> > (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
> City
> > to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
> every
> > case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread Gary Hurst

he meant coast to coast in florida

On 3/12/07, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24 hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this factoid
come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
> Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
> would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
> definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.
>
> Tom Potter
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak
>
> Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
> $800/person, if I remember correctly.
>
> Chris
>
> In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
> "progress" huh?
>
>
>
> Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you are making me want to go
> somewhere by train!
>
> last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
> seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
> promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
> different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
> meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
> if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
> grand.
>
> On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
> 3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> > To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> > Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> > Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> > The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
> thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> > I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
> seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> > I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
> but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> > Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
> eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
> Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
> >
> > They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
> go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
> >
> > For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
> took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
> drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
> expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
> comfortable...
> > Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
> 2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
> Irrational I know but there you are.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Christopher McCann
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed by
> >  gummint
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> > midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
> Deming,
> > NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> > (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
> City
> > to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
> every
> > case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread andrew strasfogel

"In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?"

I'm going to call your bluff on this.  Coast to coast by train in 24 hours?
That an average of over 100 mph assuming no stops.  Where did this factoid
come from?


On 3/12/07, Potter, Tom E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.

Tom Potter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
$800/person, if I remember correctly.

Chris

In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?



Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you are making me want to go
somewhere by train!

last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
grand.

On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
>
> They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
>
> For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
comfortable...
> Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
Irrational I know but there you are.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:51:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Christopher McCann
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amtrak was:79 year old veggie oil maker harassed by
>  gummint
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
Deming,
> NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
City
> to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
every
> case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
>
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

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About 10 years ago, the wife and I took Amtrak from Houston to Los
Angeles and back. We had a sleeper, and it was a great trip. Flying
would have cost half as much, but the train trip was so much more fun. I
definitely recommend it if you just want to relax.

Tom Potter

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:36 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

Never had a sleeper car. Would have been great from WI to NM, but was
$800/person, if I remember correctly.

Chris

In the 40's you could go coast to coast via train in 24 hours. A lot of
"progress" huh?



Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: you are making me want to go
somewhere by train!

last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
grand.

On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes
3.5 hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so
thats at LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the
seating area is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
> I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high
but theres no problem bringing your own food...
> Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to
eat right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and
Laguardia don't or at least not that I've found.
>
> They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you
go. I see no reason to EVER fly to NYC...
>
> For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It
took about 8 hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to
drive. I don't remember exactly but I don't think it was all that
expensive, around the same as flying I'd think. Again it was MUCH more
comfortable...
> Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1,
2001 and nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane.
Irrational I know but there you are.
>
> -Curt
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> I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the
> midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to
Deming,
> NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are
> (Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas
City
> to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost
every
> case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.
>
> Chris
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2007-03-12 Thread Curt Raymond

No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes 3.5 hours 
to go from Boston to Manhattan.
To fly takes 30 minutes but...
Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so thats at 
LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fact that the seating area 
is big enough that I can ACTUALLY USE my laptop.
I can get up and get a snack in the cafe car, sure the prices are high but 
theres no problem bringing your own food...
Both Boston's South Station and NYC's Penn Station have good places to eat 
right in the train station. Logan has a couple good places, JFK and Laguardia 
don't or at least not that I've found.

They cost almost exactly the same depending on what time of day you go. I see 
no reason to EVER fly to NYC...

For my honeymoon we took the train from Albany to Niagra Falls. It took about 8 
hours which is only a little more than it'd take you to drive. I don't remember 
exactly but I don't think it was all that expensive, around the same as flying 
I'd think. Again it was MUCH more comfortable... 
Of course on that run flying is MUCH faster but that was October 1, 2001 and 
nothing was going to make my wife get on an airplane. Irrational I know but 
there you are.

-Curt

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I love taking the train, but Amtrak is SO bad in the 
midwest it is practically unbearable. 50 hours from Madison, WI to Deming, 
NM. They have some good lines on th East coast, where I assume you are 
(Manhattan), but elsewhere it is awful. If I had to go from Kansas City 
to South Carolina - I have to change trains in CHICAGO!! In almost every 
case, flying is cheaper than the train, sadly.

Chris

 
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you are making me want to go somewhere by train!

last time i went anywhere was like 20 years ago, from san jose, ca to
seattle.  i kind of enjoyed it . they had some kind of very cheap
promo deal on that train from los angeles, so we played lots of
different card and tile games with people from the hood we would never
meet otherwise.  i didn't like sleeping in the seat though.  i think
if i had some kind of sleeper car, the trip would have been just
grand.

On 3/12/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No doubt Amtrak has issues, for this run its perfect though. It takes 3.5 
> hours to go from Boston to Manhattan.
> To fly takes 30 minutes but...
> Arrive at the airport at least 2 hours before the flight.
> Theres no point in arriving more than 15 minutes before the train...
> The plane takes you into Queens, all my business is in Manhattan so thats at 
> LEAST a 40 minute cab ride.
> I can plug in my laptop on the train, nevermind the fac