Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

How do I know if my 3-4 year old rheem has smart defrosting? I suspect it does 
because I think I have only noticed it go into defrost maybe 1 time.


Probably all the Rheems/Ruuds had it by 3 years ago. That company likes demand 
defrost as much as Amana/Goodman hates it.

I seem to recall you posting a pick of the ID sticker.
With a little Google-Fu you should be able to find the installer's manual for 
your model number.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
How do I know if my 3-4 year old rheem has smart defrosting? I suspect it does 
because I think I have only noticed it go into defrost maybe 1 time.

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is no single good setting. If you're home all the time, set it for 
> maximum interval, get a reset button from an old computer and plug it onto 
> the 'defrost test' terminals on the defrost control board. If it ices up, go 
> outside and push the button.
> 
> I think my Goodman came from the factory at 30 mintues, as usual the choices 
> were 30 (waste of energy), 60, and 90. I set it at 90, but still had several 
> unnecessary defrosts a day in most weather, and if it was 34° and foggy 
> outside it got horribly iced up, looked like a wedding cake.
> 
> For me, the only acceptable solution was a demand defrost board.
> A HVAC pro who upgraded his personal system told me I needed a Nordyne / 
> Partner's Choice 917469 board. I bought one on the net for about $75 and 
> found out it didn't come with temperature sensors. Furthermore, neither my 
> eBay seller nor the local Nordyne distributor had the sensors. I had my local 
> family owned (my dad's cousin, probably should have gone to him in the first 
> place) HVAC shop order it, and two weeks later I was in business. Had to 
> drill a new mounting screw hole because the Nordyne board was not exactly the 
> same size as the board Goodman used. A little experimentation with 
> positioning the coil temp sensor and I now have a smart heat pump that 
> defrosts when it needs to defrost, or defrosts every 385 minutes if no 
> defrost is needed (something about helping to return oil to the compressor).
> 
> You can get Rheem boards, complete with sensors, for $40-50, but Rheem 
> reversing valves are normally cooling, you apply power to engage heating 
> mode, where most every other valve is normally heating and you apply power to 
> shift it into cooling mode. Therefore you have to do some rewiring to make a 
> Rheem board work on a Payne.
> This forum thread tells you how:
> http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/
> http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/index3/#post1119213
> 
> http://www.comfortgurus.com/en/protech-hvac-service-parts/95966-rhe-47-102685-86.html?search_query=47-102685-85&results=4
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
There is no single good setting. If you're home all the time, set it for maximum 
interval, get a reset button from an old computer and plug it onto the 'defrost 
test' terminals on the defrost control board. If it ices up, go outside and push 
the button.


I think my Goodman came from the factory at 30 mintues, as usual the choices 
were 30 (waste of energy), 60, and 90. I set it at 90, but still had several 
unnecessary defrosts a day in most weather, and if it was 34° and foggy outside 
it got horribly iced up, looked like a wedding cake.


For me, the only acceptable solution was a demand defrost board.
A HVAC pro who upgraded his personal system told me I needed a Nordyne / 
Partner's Choice 917469 board. I bought one on the net for about $75 and found 
out it didn't come with temperature sensors. Furthermore, neither my eBay seller 
nor the local Nordyne distributor had the sensors. I had my local family owned 
(my dad's cousin, probably should have gone to him in the first place) HVAC shop 
order it, and two weeks later I was in business. Had to drill a new mounting 
screw hole because the Nordyne board was not exactly the same size as the board 
Goodman used. A little experimentation with positioning the coil temp sensor and 
I now have a smart heat pump that defrosts when it needs to defrost, or defrosts 
every 385 minutes if no defrost is needed (something about helping to return oil 
to the compressor).


You can get Rheem boards, complete with sensors, for $40-50, but Rheem reversing 
valves are normally cooling, you apply power to engage heating mode, where most 
every other valve is normally heating and you apply power to shift it into 
cooling mode. Therefore you have to do some rewiring to make a Rheem board work 
on a Payne.

This forum thread tells you how:
http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/
http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/index3/#post1119213

http://www.comfortgurus.com/en/protech-hvac-service-parts/95966-rhe-47-102685-86.html?search_query=47-102685-85&results=4

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Probably just a jumper on the control board, Google is your friend.

More Google work should reveal what the recommended settings are for your
area.

There is always trial and error...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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