Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

2016-08-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes 
Yes! The wonders of the push and pray software!  Your masters say you 
can't start a car unless you push the brake.
Your masters tried to save you from death by Push and pray by keeping 
you from starting the car because you failed to DO as required.


The programmers code:
1.  I don't care if you don't like it  (You WILL do as I say!)
2.  I don't care if it is hard/inconvenient/etc. to use
3.If I learn a new trick, it WILL be used in the current 
project, even it it makes the project 10 or 50 times larger than what is 
needed.
4.If I tell you you HAVE to do this, you WILL do it, or else 
the program will not work.


You will perform as you are told, or you WILL walk   Push and pray!

Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 5:30 PM
I rented a car a couple years,ago & tried the button etc. No go. Finally
asked the janitor. I said I have been driving for 50 years but couldn't
start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake. Give me the
old-time metal keys.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

2016-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Really? I bet theres a setting for that. My mother has a Cherokee similar to 
the one you had although yours was a Trailhawk which is an upgrade model. Hers 
doesn't shut off at stoplights...
BTW my mother's Cherokee is a surprisingly good offroader. We took it up the 
worst trail at camp which is littered with springs and gets real soupy. The 
trick is to let the traction control do its thing and just keep slogging, it 
finds traction and just keeps going. I just talked to my folks and dad says 
they've ripped a bunch of the plastic off the bottom but it hasn't gotten stuck 
and its been very wet up there.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 7:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
   
The Jeep I had at last year’s ‘Que was one of those cars that shuts off when 
you come to a stop and starts as soon as you press on the gas.  Freaked me out. 
 Did not like.

Dan

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
> tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
> showing you a foot on a brake.
> I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the 
> alarm clicker...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond 
> <curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
> 
> I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally 
> asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't 
> start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  
> metal keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI 
> On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental 
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's 
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
> deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
> that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
> better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
> didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
> loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought 
> it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In 
> this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor 
> mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was 
> impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

2016-08-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
The Jeep I had at last year’s ‘Que was one of those cars that shuts off when 
you come to a stop and starts as soon as you press on the gas.  Freaked me out. 
 Did not like.

Dan

> On Aug 28, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
> tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
> showing you a foot on a brake.
> I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the 
> alarm clicker...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond 
> <curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
> 
> I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally 
> asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't 
> start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  
> metal keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI 
> On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental 
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's 
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
> deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
> that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
> better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
> didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
> loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought 
> it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In 
> this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor 
> mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was 
> impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

2016-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Many of the cars today, including the Renegade I've got, have a screen that 
tells you to step on the brake to start. Some of them even have an animation 
showing you a foot on a brake.
I agree, I like keys, especially without an accidentally setting off the alarm 
clicker...
-Curt

  From: Dwight Giles <dwight.gi...@gmail.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond 
<curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade
   
I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally asked 
the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't start this 
puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the old-time  metal 
keys.Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI 
On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:

I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental this 
week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's Jeep 
Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short list.
Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more 
comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that stupid 
deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control, I hate 
that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real" versions are 
better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized I 
didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that Curley 
loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally thought it 
through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the dash. In this 
case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where the floor mat 
meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it was impossible to 
see, had to feel around for it.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Jeep Renegade

2016-08-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
I rented a car a couple years,ago  & tried the button etc. No go. Finally
asked the janitor. I  said I have been driving for  50 years but couldn't
start this puppy. He said, put your foot on the brake.  Give me the
old-time  metal keys.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 28, 2016 5:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I was going to write a review about the Jeep Renegade I've got as a rental
> this week. I picked it (National lets you pick your car) because my Dad's
> Jeep Liberty needs replacing and the Renegade is at the top of his short
> list.
> Short review: its fine, as good as the Liberty, maybe a little more
> comfortable, got 26+mpg from LAX to Burbank in heavy traffic. Has that
> stupid deal where the first 1/2 of pedal travel is 80% of throttle control,
> I hate that. Typical sloppy rental car transmission, I hope the "real"
> versions are better. Overall about as quick as my Jetta.
> The funny part of the tale is when I got halfway to the hotel and realized
> I didn't know where the "key" was. Its got the push button start that
> Curley loves so much so I had just hopped in and pushed the button. Finally
> thought it through, when they take the return they throw the "key" on the
> dash. In this case it must have rolled back, I found it on the floor where
> the floor mat meets the seat. The interior is black as is they "key" so it
> was impossible to see, had to feel around for it.
> -Curt
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