Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
Hey Dimitri, are you still single? On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 9:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > He’s not asking for life advice. We’re trying to find him a car. > > -D > > > On Jun 29, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: > > > > Why in hell would your son want a Buick? Does he want to stay forever > single? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 29, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that > have a V6 engine that’s listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, or > is the 3.9l engine a different engine? > >> > >> -D > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
He’s not asking for life advice. We’re trying to find him a car. -D > On Jun 29, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > > Why in hell would your son want a Buick? Does he want to stay forever single? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 29, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that have >> a V6 engine that’s listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, or is the >> 3.9l engine a different engine? >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
Why in hell would your son want a Buick? Does he want to stay forever single? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that have > a V6 engine that’s listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, or is the > 3.9l engine a different engine? > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
GM VVT seems fairly reliable. GM cylinder deactivation (AFM) not so much. I'd rather have Atkinson Cycle than AFM. On Mon, June 29, 2020 6:49 pm, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Different. A quick search says "junk". At least the way I read it. > > > https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4621583/GM_39 > 00_engine.#Post4621583 > > > > Rick > > > > >  Original Message  > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 29, 2020 4:26 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question > > > > So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that > have a V6 engine thatâs listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, > or is the 3.9l engine a different engine? > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
Look it up on FuelEconomy.gov. What engines did the EPA certify for that model/year? On Mon, June 29, 2020 5:25 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that > have a V6 engine thatâs listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, > or is the 3.9l engine a different engine? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question
Different. A quick search says "junk". At least the way I read it. https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4621583/GM_3900_engine.#Post4621583 Rick Original Message From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 29, 2020 4:26 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Buick Question So as I look at later model Buicks for the eldest son, I see some that have a V6 engine that’s listed as a 3.9l, not 3.8l. Are they the same, or is the 3.9l engine a different engine? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Buick $ Question
Something else to consider, parts for the first couple years of the full size GM FWD with a 3.8 are rather scarce. They completely changed things in 87 or 88, and totally abandoned the electronics that were on the earlier cars. Supporting an earlier one today is going to be expensive. Save your money and get a couple years newer car. On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Donald Snook wrote: > Randy wrote: "Old friend has an 86 Buick Electra that he wants to sell. > He wants $2K. I told him it was a $500 car." > > 86 has the 3.8 engine that was the precursor to the real 3800 (that came out > in 88). It is a good engine, but the common failure on the 86-87 3.8 engine > was the timing chain. They had plastic gears and a plastic guide that would > fail. With 115,000 miles, you probably have some timing chain noise. I had > a 1985 Olds 98 (essentially the same car as the electra) and the timing chain > was making noise. It is not hard to fix. Except, it is easiest to remove the > front cv axle to get yourself access to the front cover, so you will have to > have it aligned afterwards. 86 also did not have the new harmonic balancer > that came out in 88. The other potential problem is the transmission - just > make sure the fluid has been changed frequently enough. Pull the pain. The > common failure on them is a plastic part that will break off and end up in > the band. It looks like a clutch band but it isn't. I think in 86 the went > to the distributorless ignition (85 still had a distributor). > > These really are good cars. Check the transmission, listen for timing chain > noise, and check the cv boots. Assuming all of these things check out, you > probably have a good car. The only typical things that fail are alternators > and water pumps. Neither one is that hard to replace. 86 might have the old > style alternator with the bigger bearing (you can also rebuild the old style > alts). The motor mounts and transmission mounts also go bad on a car that > old. The motor mounts are not hard, the transmission mount is pretty easy. > You can tell they are bad if the transmission feels like it bangs into > reverse. > > They also have a crank sensor that failed. GM had three updates and only the > last one worked. I would think that after 22 years, this car has gotten the > new one. The bearings also go bad on the blower motor. It will start > squealing on hard turns with the vent/a/c on. They are cheap and VERY easy > to replace. Just push the tabs on the glove box and the whole thing will > slide down and the blower motor is right there. > > As far as price, $2000 is too much and $500 is too low for one with such low > mileage. Up to $1200 or so would be what I would try to pay. > > I just paid $500 for my 90 Buick LeSabre with 185,000 miles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
