Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change?
well said Fred. On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 12:20 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When changing customer's engine oil, they were told that the dirtiest quart > of oil was in the filter. > Don't cheap out. As they used to say "Pay me now, or pay me later" > Fred. > I have oil (diesel) in my blood! And you can see where it gets in! > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 9:54 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I've never had an oil related failure on a large engine (once on a > > lawnmower maybe) so I don't worry about it too much. The farm tractors > get > > changed once every 2 years but we're talking less than 100 hours of run > > time, synthetic 5w40 in the '98 Ford and 15w40 diesel oil in the 1952 > > Farmall. That Farmall's engine is completely iron, I'm not worried about > > acids particularly, I'm leaning on the relatively high TBN of diesel oil > to > > absorb the acid... > > > > In a month or so I'm going to replace the leaking oil pan gasket on the > > Farmall. I had been debating not changing the filter at that time but now > > I'm thinking I ought to, there might be some contamination during the > job... > > > > -Curt > > > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 08:20:28 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I change my oil and filter every 12 months regardless of miles. Keeps the > > acids, etc. at bay. > > > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I would, simply because 1.) it’s cheap; and 2.) the filter could be > > > breaking down from age, especially if it’s one that uses glue to hold > the > > > pleated paper together like the fleece filters in the M112. > > > > > > -D > > > > > > > On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:21 PM, greg via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I put only a few K miles on between changes. IIRC back in the day the > > > > advise was to change filters every other oil change. > > > > > > > > Is it necessary to change an oil filter by time rather than mileage? > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > > are wearing." > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change?
When changing customer's engine oil, they were told that the dirtiest quart of oil was in the filter. Don't cheap out. As they used to say "Pay me now, or pay me later" Fred. I have oil (diesel) in my blood! And you can see where it gets in! On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 9:54 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've never had an oil related failure on a large engine (once on a > lawnmower maybe) so I don't worry about it too much. The farm tractors get > changed once every 2 years but we're talking less than 100 hours of run > time, synthetic 5w40 in the '98 Ford and 15w40 diesel oil in the 1952 > Farmall. That Farmall's engine is completely iron, I'm not worried about > acids particularly, I'm leaning on the relatively high TBN of diesel oil to > absorb the acid... > > In a month or so I'm going to replace the leaking oil pan gasket on the > Farmall. I had been debating not changing the filter at that time but now > I'm thinking I ought to, there might be some contamination during the job... > > -Curt > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 08:20:28 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I change my oil and filter every 12 months regardless of miles. Keeps the > acids, etc. at bay. > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I would, simply because 1.) it’s cheap; and 2.) the filter could be > > breaking down from age, especially if it’s one that uses glue to hold the > > pleated paper together like the fleece filters in the M112. > > > > -D > > > > > On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:21 PM, greg via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > I put only a few K miles on between changes. IIRC back in the day the > > > advise was to change filters every other oil change. > > > > > > Is it necessary to change an oil filter by time rather than mileage? > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change?
I've never had an oil related failure on a large engine (once on a lawnmower maybe) so I don't worry about it too much. The farm tractors get changed once every 2 years but we're talking less than 100 hours of run time, synthetic 5w40 in the '98 Ford and 15w40 diesel oil in the 1952 Farmall. That Farmall's engine is completely iron, I'm not worried about acids particularly, I'm leaning on the relatively high TBN of diesel oil to absorb the acid... In a month or so I'm going to replace the leaking oil pan gasket on the Farmall. I had been debating not changing the filter at that time but now I'm thinking I ought to, there might be some contamination during the job... -Curt On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 08:20:28 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I change my oil and filter every 12 months regardless of miles. Keeps the acids, etc. at bay. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would, simply because 1.) it’s cheap; and 2.) the filter could be > breaking down from age, especially if it’s one that uses glue to hold the > pleated paper together like the fleece filters in the M112. > > -D > > > On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:21 PM, greg via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I put only a few K miles on between changes. IIRC back in the day the > > advise was to change filters every other oil change. > > > > Is it necessary to change an oil filter by time rather than mileage? > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change?
I change my oil and filter every 12 months regardless of miles. Keeps the acids, etc. at bay. On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 3:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would, simply because 1.) it’s cheap; and 2.) the filter could be > breaking down from age, especially if it’s one that uses glue to hold the > pleated paper together like the fleece filters in the M112. > > -D > > > On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:21 PM, greg via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I put only a few K miles on between changes. IIRC back in the day the > > advise was to change filters every other oil change. > > > > Is it necessary to change an oil filter by time rather than mileage? > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change?
I would, simply because 1.) it’s cheap; and 2.) the filter could be breaking down from age, especially if it’s one that uses glue to hold the pleated paper together like the fleece filters in the M112. -D > On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:21 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: > > I put only a few K miles on between changes. IIRC back in the day the > advise was to change filters every other oil change. > > Is it necessary to change an oil filter by time rather than mileage? > > Greg > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil filter change
Wix makes very nice oil filters, but if you use them you must obtain a new o-ring seal from somewhere else -- the one included in the box never fits and I've cut nearly every one I tried to use. Peter I concur with the assessment of the o-ring...never could get the new one to seal so I just re-used the Mann one I had in there. Only reason I tried it in the first place was I ran out of the Manns and didn't have time to shoot an order off to Rusty. I now have a years supply on the shelf, and no more WIX Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
Be careful to properly fit the filter in, on some models you can displace the internal seal between the full flow portion and the bypass portion, resulting in low oil pressure. Unless you have a W124 with a 603 engine, it's easy. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
On 9/22/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you have a W124 with a 603 engine, it's easy. The secret is to remove the rubber trim at the top of the inner firewall! Takes 10 seconds and gives you WAY more clearance. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
Hey guys A friend of mine found this link: http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/ oilfilterstudy.html#measure Not too sure how current the info is, but the Wix filters did pass this guy's test Anybody have any updated info, please share it with the rest of us... No affiliation/connection/etc., with the filter tester Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
14.75-18.43 ft lbs, or 177-221 in lbs When you get the lid off, everything will be pretty self explanatory -Robert Lee Einer wrote: The Benz (1980 300CD)is due for an oil change. Happy to see the filter is accessible from the top of the engine (never done my own change on this beast before.) Plan to use Wilton's $2 supersucker to drain the oil. The Official CD is not terribly helpful. It indicates that I am to tighten the two fastening nuts on the filter to 20-25 NM. What is that in foot-pounds? Also, the diagram shows a shaft or tube running up through the middle with cryptic warnings that if I put it back together wrong my doom is immanent. Do I need to fiddle with the shaft thing and the spring on it in order to change the filter? Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
There is an O-ring around the shaft that you should replace if it has not been replaced lately. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change 14.75-18.43 ft lbs, or 177-221 in lbs When you get the lid off, everything will be pretty self explanatory -Robert Lee Einer wrote: The Benz (1980 300CD)is due for an oil change. Happy to see the filter is accessible from the top of the engine (never done my own change on this beast before.) Plan to use Wilton's $2 supersucker to drain the oil. The Official CD is not terribly helpful. It indicates that I am to tighten the two fastening nuts on the filter to 20-25 NM. What is that in foot-pounds? Also, the diagram shows a shaft or tube running up through the middle with cryptic warnings that if I put it back together wrong my doom is immanent. Do I need to fiddle with the shaft thing and the spring on it in order to change the filter? Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
2 actually. Part number 015 997 94 48. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Potter, Tom E Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change There is an O-ring around the shaft that you should replace if it has not been replaced lately. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change 14.75-18.43 ft lbs, or 177-221 in lbs When you get the lid off, everything will be pretty self explanatory -Robert Lee Einer wrote: The Benz (1980 300CD)is due for an oil change. Happy to see the filter is accessible from the top of the engine (never done my own change on this beast before.) Plan to use Wilton's $2 supersucker to drain the oil. The Official CD is not terribly helpful. It indicates that I am to tighten the two fastening nuts on the filter to 20-25 NM. What is that in foot-pounds? Also, the diagram shows a shaft or tube running up through the middle with cryptic warnings that if I put it back together wrong my doom is immanent. Do I need to fiddle with the shaft thing and the spring on it in order to change the filter? Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
David Brodbeck wrote: Thread the cover/stem assembly into the new filter and bolt it down. Actually, that was a poor choice of words. I meant thread in the sense of threading a needle, not thread in the sense of twist it like a screw.
