Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Hendrik and Fay]

I am in oztralia but can see from the pics that this car has been used 
and abused.
As has been said, the only thing this heap might have going for it is a 
relatively rust free body (although a dented and scratched one).
If there is any sort of rust starting to appear (bottom of rear windows 
is a common spot on wagons) then this car is pretty much worthless.
In the world of old Benzes my view is that either the body is good or 
the mechanicals are good, if both are bad then the car will suck up a 
lot of money, which is better spend on a better example.
If this S123 is intended to be a winter beater or used out in the bush 
as a workhorse, then yeah a rough body is not an issue and if you are 
handy with spanners and on a first name basis with the local wreckers, 
you can run this for not much money.
As a comparison, there is a fella here trying to sell an 83 280TE, which 
has issues but is a seven seater, is registered and from a distance 
looks OK, he is asking 600 oz beans.
Speaking of which, it also seems to be missing the rear headrests, this 
seems to be a common thing with the wagons, mine where missing, the PO 
did manage to find one and I modified some out of a 126 to fit. Don't 
these people realise that headrests are a safety item, or will they 
figure it out when the rear passengers have snapped necks?


Hendrik
who has a soft spot for the 123 chassis

On 22/10/13 00:06, Michael Canfield wrote:

Only reason I would consider over $1000 is lack of rust.  Rusty 123's suck
to work on.  Well, rusty anything sucks to work on in my book.

Mike
On Oct 21, 2013 9:31 AM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:


On Oct 21, 2013, at 6:55 AM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:


I thought you were in Australia?


He is. I looked at the ad too, though and I would concur.

Ad copy "new fan needed for heater and a/c; needs new alternator & new
battery;"  and "recently serviced suspension system; regular maintenance
has been performed, including oil changes, filters, belts, shocks, fluids,
and brakes."

So they fixed the really easy stuff with URO trash parts (that will need
replaced again, soon) and left the expensive stuff for you to fix. All for
the bargain price of $3500. No thank you. $1500 is being too generous.

Rick





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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Craig]

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:52:17 -0400 Michael Canfield 
wrote:

> For the record, I agree with Hendrick.  I would pass on that one.
> Engine bay is filthy and how does a car that is rarely used get 260k
> miles? Sounds like it has been sitting a long time after getting used
> hard.
> 
> Looks like trouble to me for that kind of money.  Looks like a $1500
> car to me.

It does look like trouble, indeed.

The spots on the back of the seats are odd: oil? mold?

What's with the Turbodiesel insignia on the tailgate?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

> Only reason I would consider over $1000 is lack of rust.  Rusty 123's suck
> to work on.  Well, rusty anything sucks to work on in my book.
>
>
>
Come out to the West Coast and you will find all the rust-free Mercedes you
want, along with plenty of other old cars you thought you'd never see
again.  The Portland area is like the Island of Lost Toys for '70s and '80s
European and Japanese cars.  When I lived on one side of Portland and
worked on the other, I used to see every day on my commute not just 123s,
116s and 126s, but also RX-7s, 240Zs, Alfas, air-cooled VWs of all kinds,
and the occasional Peugeot, just to name a few.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Michael Canfield]

Only reason I would consider over $1000 is lack of rust.  Rusty 123's suck
to work on.  Well, rusty anything sucks to work on in my book.

Mike
On Oct 21, 2013 9:31 AM, "Rick Knoble"  wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2013, at 6:55 AM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:
>
> > I thought you were in Australia?
>
>
> He is. I looked at the ad too, though and I would concur.
>
> Ad copy "new fan needed for heater and a/c; needs new alternator & new
> battery;"  and "recently serviced suspension system; regular maintenance
> has been performed, including oil changes, filters, belts, shocks, fluids,
> and brakes."
>
> So they fixed the really easy stuff with URO trash parts (that will need
> replaced again, soon) and left the expensive stuff for you to fix. All for
> the bargain price of $3500. No thank you. $1500 is being too generous.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Rick Knoble]

On Oct 21, 2013, at 6:55 AM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:

> I thought you were in Australia?


He is. I looked at the ad too, though and I would concur. 

Ad copy "new fan needed for heater and a/c; needs new alternator & new 
battery;"  and "recently serviced suspension system; regular maintenance has 
been performed, including oil changes, filters, belts, shocks, fluids, and 
brakes."

So they fixed the really easy stuff with URO trash parts (that will need 
replaced again, soon) and left the expensive stuff for you to fix. All for the 
bargain price of $3500. No thank you. $1500 is being too generous. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Michael Canfield]

For the record, I agree with Hendrick.  I would pass on that one.  Engine
bay is filthy and how does a car that is rarely used get 260k miles?
Sounds like it has been sitting a long time after getting used hard.

Looks like trouble to me for that kind of money.  Looks like a $1500 car to
me.

Mike
On Oct 21, 2013 8:47 AM, "Michael Canfield"  wrote:

> Hendrick is just being his usual wise-assed self.  Aussies have humor
> kinda dry like a desert.  Ya gotta be lookin for it..lol
>
> Mike
> On Oct 21, 2013 7:55 AM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:
>
>> Hendrick!  Thanks for the information.  Would would you think a fair
>> price is?  Do you have a feel for the cost of getting it road ready?  Is
>> the body rusted out? How was the interior other than the seats?
>>
>> I thought you were in Australia?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael E. Esh
>> me...@horizonenv.com
>> michael...@mac.com
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>>
>>
>> On Oct 21, 2013, at 06:12 AM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:
>>
>>  Yeah I had a look, it's a piece of junk, keep looking.
>>> Actually when they say runs like a tank, it looks to have been in a few
>>> battles.
>>> Filthy engine bay tells me it has not been looked after and it's
>>> sunburnt.
>>>
>>> Hendrik
>>> whose TE has a few battle wounds but not on that scale
>>>
>>> On 21/10/13 17:27, Mike Esh wrote:
>>>
 Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is
 beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
 http://houston.craigslist.org/**cto/4052708735.html
  Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Michael Canfield]

Hendrick is just being his usual wise-assed self.  Aussies have humor kinda
dry like a desert.  Ya gotta be lookin for it..lol

Mike
On Oct 21, 2013 7:55 AM, "Mike Esh"  wrote:

> Hendrick!  Thanks for the information.  Would would you think a fair price
> is?  Do you have a feel for the cost of getting it road ready?  Is the body
> rusted out? How was the interior other than the seats?
>
> I thought you were in Australia?
>
> 
>
> Michael E. Esh
> me...@horizonenv.com
> michael...@mac.com
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> (C) 231.286.2344
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 06:12 AM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:
>
>  Yeah I had a look, it's a piece of junk, keep looking.
>> Actually when they say runs like a tank, it looks to have been in a few
>> battles.
>> Filthy engine bay tells me it has not been looked after and it's sunburnt.
>>
>> Hendrik
>> whose TE has a few battle wounds but not on that scale
>>
>> On 21/10/13 17:27, Mike Esh wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is
>>> beginning to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
>>> http://houston.craigslist.org/**cto/4052708735.html
>>>  Michael E. Esh
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Mike Esh]

Hendrick!  Thanks for the information.  Would would you think a fair price is?  
Do you have a feel for the cost of getting it road ready?  Is the body rusted 
out? How was the interior other than the seats?

I thought you were in Australia?



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On Oct 21, 2013, at 06:12 AM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:


Yeah I had a look, it's a piece of junk, keep looking.
Actually when they say runs like a tank, it looks to have been in a few
battles.
Filthy engine bay tells me it has not been looked after and it's sunburnt.

Hendrik
whose TE has a few battle wounds but not on that scale

On 21/10/13 17:27, Mike Esh wrote:

Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over? My daughter is beginning 
to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html
 
Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] POS Wagon

[Hendrik and Fay]

Yeah I had a look, it's a piece of junk, keep looking.
Actually when they say runs like a tank, it looks to have been in a few 
battles.

Filthy engine bay tells me it has not been looked after and it's sunburnt.

Hendrik
whose TE has a few battle wounds but not on that scale

On 21/10/13 17:27, Mike Esh wrote:

Anyone in the Houston area that could look this over?  My daughter is beginning 
to shop for a wagon around Austin, Texas
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4052708735.html

Michael E. Esh



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