Re: [MBZ] PayPal Users, Be Aware!

2014-10-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
They have really screwed up a good thing

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 On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Some major changes to their Terms of Service (TOS) taking place November 18:
 
 We’re increasing the time for buyers to file a merchandise dispute (Item Not 
 Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180 days.
 
 And:
 
 If a buyer files a Significantly Not as Described (SNAD) Claim for an item 
 they purchased from you, you will generally be required to accept the item 
 back and refund the buyer the full purchase price plus original shipping 
 costs. You will not receive a refund of your PayPal fees. Further, if you 
 lose a SNAD Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably believe the 
 item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a full refund 
 to the buyer and you will not receive the item back (it will be destroyed). 
 PayPal Seller protection will not cover your liability.
 
 In other words, if you're a seller, you're screwed.  Someone could literally 
 buy a product from you, and 5-1/2 months later say it doesn't perform as 
 stated and get a refund.  The SNAD terms are even worse.
 
 I'm killing my PP account before these go into service, or I'm not going to 
 use it for places where I might sell something.
 
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] PayPal Users, Be Aware!

2014-10-05 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
sellers gotta sell

buyers don't gotta buy.

buyers drive paypal.  paypal will always side with buyers over sellers

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 They have really screwed up a good thing

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 5, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Some major changes to their Terms of Service (TOS) taking place November
 18:
 
  We’re increasing the time for buyers to file a merchandise dispute
 (Item Not Received and Significantly Not as Described) from 45 days to 180
 days.
 
  And:
 
  If a buyer files a Significantly Not as Described (SNAD) Claim for an
 item they purchased from you, you will generally be required to accept the
 item back and refund the buyer the full purchase price plus original
 shipping costs. You will not receive a refund of your PayPal fees. Further,
 if you lose a SNAD Claim because we, in our sole discretion, reasonably
 believe the item you sold is counterfeit, you will be required to provide a
 full refund to the buyer and you will not receive the item back (it will be
 destroyed). PayPal Seller protection will not cover your liability.
 
  In other words, if you're a seller, you're screwed.  Someone could
 literally buy a product from you, and 5-1/2 months later say it doesn't
 perform as stated and get a refund.  The SNAD terms are even worse.
 
  I'm killing my PP account before these go into service, or I'm not going
 to use it for places where I might sell something.
 
  Dan
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