Re: [MBZ] Self-gratification
I still think the W126 was the best car Benz ever made. No rust issues, drove beautifully, and my brother got 29 mpg on his. Hard to argue with. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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While the W210s are probably the most bulletproof modern Benz, there’s nothing like a long wheelbase W126 to cruise in. Wonderful cars, definitely my most favorite Mercedes of them all. -D > On Nov 21, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I gratified myself today by first driving a 43yo Benz 280E to the C which > was a nice experience. I had not driven a 123 in awhile and this one actually > drives pretty well. It was fun, 123s are cool cars. It’s a gasser so that is > a new experience. > > Then this afternoon I cleaned up the 36yo 300SD and took it for a spin around > the neighborhood then to the grocery store. The parking lot was full of > Yankees driving like fools in their big new SUVs and trying to park them. A > stinky diesel fit in nicely. > > The 126 just feels like a big comfortable solid cruiser whereas the 123 feels > more nimble for fun driving. Different tools for different jobs I guess. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, August 13, 2020 7:00 pm, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Saturns make good 'toads'. Something about the transmission allows them > to be flat-towed with impunity, or so I recall. Only the manuals, IIRC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Saturns make good 'toads'. Something about the transmission allows them to be flat-towed with impunity, or so I recall. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, August 13, 2020 2:50 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Just checked.. it has 133323.0 miles no rust anywhere, likely PLASTIC car.. FIFY. I owned my Ion for a year before I realized the doorskins and fenders were plastic (I knew the SL/SC were mostly plastic, but thought the Ion was more like a Cobalt). Trunk, hood, and I believe roof are steel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have not even looked at mileage... or tried the AC yet... So far... just pulled all the "Stuff" that had been crammed in and stored... loads of NEW camping items... tags still on... and womens clothing.. tags still on... funny people do funny things.. Just checked.. it has 133323.0 miles no rust anywhere, likely AZ car.. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:34 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dang, too bad. My parents had a Saturn with a manual at one point. The > clutch feel was "numb" but not a bad car otherwise. > > Mileage? Heat and AC systems work? > > > > G Mann via Mercedes writes: > > > Automatic... power windows [which work BTW] Power door locks.. actually.. > > considering it was a cheap car in the cheap car market.. it is rather > well > > appointed. Even has a power moon roof [reason enough to sell it quick.. > > and take some flip money.. > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Manual or automatic? > >> > >> > >> G Mann via Mercedes writes: > >> > >> > As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take > it > >> > away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh > >> > battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove > it > >> to > >> > my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... > >> > > >> > I had never driven a Saturn.. or even been in one... the car was > stuffed > >> > full of 13 trash bags full of loose stuff the owners had used it as a > >> > storage bin... cleared all that out... industrial vacuum and a car > >> wash... > >> > it actually looks and drives pretty good for 100 hp / 2,300 lb > car... > >> > But... it's no V12 Benz... SC "Sport Coupe" 1 = 100 hp... SC2 was > same > >> > engine with twin cam at 140 HP.. 3 door coupe... > >> > I'll flip it cheap... MFOG [Money Found On Ground] > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Allan Streib > Indiana University > Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering > Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dang, too bad. My parents had a Saturn with a manual at one point. The clutch feel was "numb" but not a bad car otherwise. Mileage? Heat and AC systems work? G Mann via Mercedes writes: > Automatic... power windows [which work BTW] Power door locks.. actually.. > considering it was a cheap car in the cheap car market.. it is rather well > appointed. Even has a power moon roof [reason enough to sell it quick.. > and take some flip money.. > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Manual or automatic? >> >> >> G Mann via Mercedes writes: >> >> > As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it >> > away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh >> > battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it >> to >> > my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... >> > >> > I had never driven a Saturn.. or even been in one... the car was stuffed >> > full of 13 trash bags full of loose stuff the owners had used it as a >> > storage bin... cleared all that out... industrial vacuum and a car >> wash... >> > it actually looks and drives pretty good for 100 hp / 2,300 lb car... >> > But... it's no V12 Benz... SC "Sport Coupe" 1 = 100 hp... SC2 was same >> > engine with twin cam at 140 HP.. 3 door coupe... >> > I'll flip it cheap... MFOG [Money Found On Ground] >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Allan Streib Indiana University Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Automatic... power windows [which work BTW] Power door locks.. actually.. considering it was a cheap car in the cheap car market.. it is rather well appointed. Even has a power moon roof [reason enough to sell it quick.. and take some flip money.. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:16 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Manual or automatic? > > > G Mann via Mercedes writes: > > > As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it > > away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh > > battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it > to > > my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... > > > > I had never driven a Saturn.. or even been in one... the car was stuffed > > full of 13 trash bags full of loose stuff the owners had used it as a > > storage bin... cleared all that out... industrial vacuum and a car > wash... > > it actually looks and drives pretty good for 100 hp / 2,300 lb car... > > But... it's no V12 Benz... SC "Sport Coupe" 1 = 100 hp... SC2 was same > > engine with twin cam at 140 HP.. 3 door coupe... > > I'll flip it cheap... MFOG [Money Found On Ground] > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Manual or automatic? G Mann via Mercedes writes: > As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it > away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh > battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it to > my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... > > I had never driven a Saturn.. or even been in one... the car was stuffed > full of 13 trash bags full of loose stuff the owners had used it as a > storage bin... cleared all that out... industrial vacuum and a car wash... > it actually looks and drives pretty good for 100 hp / 2,300 lb car... > But... it's no V12 Benz... SC "Sport Coupe" 1 = 100 hp... SC2 was same > engine with twin cam at 140 HP.. 3 door coupe... > I'll flip it cheap... MFOG [Money Found On Ground] > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I meant to the general public, not insiders. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:14 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT? > > > Lucky Strikes Mean Fatal Tumors! > > -MMM- > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:07 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT? Lucky Strikes Mean Fatal Tumors! -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In 2018 Angie and I got to walk under a Saturn V at the US Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville. The thing about the Saturn V is that you walk under it, and then keep walking under it for what feels like forever, the dang thing just goes on and on. I got thinking about the lunatics that strapped themselves on to the tippy top of that monster. Lunatics might not be a strong enough term. -Curt On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 1:44:18 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I you look at the video, he says the Saturn rocket was 0-42 mph in ten seconds. I would suspect that the SL600 would be far quicker than that. Maybe even 0-100 mph, the SL600 would be quicker. From 100- 17,000 mph, I would guess the rocket wins. What a glorious time for science. I'm sad that it's gone. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 13, 2020 12:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification >I think you mean the Saturn S: No. Like a Saturn V. Roman numeral for "five" or "5". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Especially the Lucky Strikes. Who rememebers LSMFT? On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 1:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah definitely slower to 17,000mph > > The 5 F1 engines each had 2.5million pounds of thrust and there was > never an operational failure. A testament to guys in white > short-sleeve shirts, short haircuts, skinny ties, slide rules, and Lucky > Strikes. > > --FT > > On 8/13/20 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > I you look at the video, he says the Saturn rocket was 0-42 mph in ten > seconds. I would suspect that the SL600 would be far quicker than that. > Maybe even 0-100 mph, the SL600 would be quicker. From 100- 17,000 mph, I > would guess the rocket wins. > > > > What a glorious time for science. I'm sad that it's gone. > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: August 13, 2020 12:34 PM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification > > > >> I think you mean the Saturn S: > > > > No. Like a Saturn V. > > Roman numeral for "five" or "5". > > > > > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V > > > > > > https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg > > > > Rick > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As it happens, I just had a 2000 Saturn SC1 given to me, free... take it away please... it had been setting for maybe 5 years... I put a fresh battery in... cranked for a few turns... it fired right up... I drove it to my shop... slowly... the tires are dry rotted .. 12 yr old DOT code... I had never driven a Saturn.. or even been in one... the car was stuffed full of 13 trash bags full of loose stuff the owners had used it as a storage bin... cleared all that out... industrial vacuum and a car wash... it actually looks and drives pretty good for 100 hp / 2,300 lb car... But... it's no V12 Benz... SC "Sport Coupe" 1 = 100 hp... SC2 was same engine with twin cam at 140 HP.. 3 door coupe... I'll flip it cheap... MFOG [Money Found On Ground] On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Buggered wrote: *...gratifying to stomp the go pedal, kick down, and launch > like a Saturn V* > > I think you mean the Saturn S: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Corporation#/media/File:Saturn-SL2.jpg > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I drove the SL600 this evening to pick up a couple growlers of beer from > a > > local brewery to bring to a get-together with a coupla buddies. There > were > > some slow drivers on the road I had to dispense with quickly in an > orderly > > and efficient manner. It was quite gratifying to stomp the go pedal, kick > > down, and launch like a Saturn V. > > > > One of my buddies just started working today for Vivian at her new place > > in Charleston making biscuits and hand pies. > > > > --FT > > Sent from iPhone > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah definitely slower to 17,000mph The 5 F1 engines each had 2.5million pounds of thrust and there was never an operational failure. A testament to guys in white short-sleeve shirts, short haircuts, skinny ties, slide rules, and Lucky Strikes. --FT On 8/13/20 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I you look at the video, he says the Saturn rocket was 0-42 mph in ten seconds. I would suspect that the SL600 would be far quicker than that. Maybe even 0-100 mph, the SL600 would be quicker. From 100- 17,000 mph, I would guess the rocket wins. What a glorious time for science. I'm sad that it's gone. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 13, 2020 12:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification I think you mean the Saturn S: No. Like a Saturn V. Roman numeral for "five" or "5". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification
I you look at the video, he says the Saturn rocket was 0-42 mph in ten seconds. I would suspect that the SL600 would be far quicker than that. Maybe even 0-100 mph, the SL600 would be quicker. From 100- 17,000 mph, I would guess the rocket wins. What a glorious time for science. I'm sad that it's gone. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 13, 2020 12:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification >I think you mean the Saturn S: No. Like a Saturn V. Roman numeral for "five" or "5". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Self Gratification
>I think you mean the Saturn S: No. Like a Saturn V. Roman numeral for "five" or "5". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V https://youtu.be/n4vWXL9E7jg Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Buggered wrote: *...gratifying to stomp the go pedal, kick down, and launch like a Saturn V* I think you mean the Saturn S: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_Corporation#/media/File:Saturn-SL2.jpg On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drove the SL600 this evening to pick up a couple growlers of beer from a > local brewery to bring to a get-together with a coupla buddies. There were > some slow drivers on the road I had to dispense with quickly in an orderly > and efficient manner. It was quite gratifying to stomp the go pedal, kick > down, and launch like a Saturn V. > > One of my buddies just started working today for Vivian at her new place > in Charleston making biscuits and hand pies. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
