Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You had Buddy!

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> On Aug 29, 2023, at 7:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> Rhode Island tries but they'll never catch up...
> 
> -Curt
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> On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 03:58:43 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
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> 
> Yes, but you get to vote, even when you’re deceased.
> 
> And how many states can claim former governors who are convicted felons?
> 
> -D
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>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Annual property tax is $276? Jeez….that’s how much you get charged per day 
>> in Illinois, according to my grumpy pops. 
>> 
>> AZBob
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 On Aug 29, 2023, at 10:56 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
  wrote:
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>>> On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
 that's what the tax will be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
>>> So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual property 
>>> tax is $276.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Rhode Island tries but they'll never catch up...

-Curt




On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 03:58:43 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Yes, but you get to vote, even when you’re deceased.

And how many states can claim former governors who are convicted felons?

-D

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Annual property tax is $276? Jeez….that’s how much you get charged per day in 
> Illinois, according to my grumpy pops. 
> 
> AZBob
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 10:56 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
>>> that's what the tax will be.
>> 
>> 
>> No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
>> So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual property 
>> tax is $276.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Correct.

It used to be that excise tax would plateau at something like 12 years to a 
relatively small amount, like $25. That said, buy a new car and the excise tax 
was $1,000s of dollars. Ouch!

However, I believe it’s far less onerous than it used to be. I think that after 
9 years and being worth less than a couple thousand it’s $12, and for new cars, 
it’s far less expensive, like a maximum of $500 and change. At least that’s 
what I recall from when we bought the house up there a couple of years ago.

-D

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Indiana will compute sales tax based on the bill of sale or whatever selling 
> price is written on the title.
> 
> Annual registration fees include excise tax based on current book value, no 
> appeals that I know of but it drops every year until it reaches some minimum.
> 
> 
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> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, at 17:17, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>> In WA there's a form you both fill out and sign, else they use a blue 
>> book, sight unseen.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Indiana will compute sales tax based on the bill of sale or whatever selling 
price is written on the title.

Annual registration fees include excise tax based on current book value, no 
appeals that I know of but it drops every year until it reaches some minimum.



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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
In WA there's a form you both fill out and sign, else they use a blue book, 
sight unseen.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2023-08-29 15:50, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
Annual property tax is $276? Jeez….that’s how much you get charged per 
day in Illinois, according to my grumpy pops.


To put a plate on my W140.
My W163 is about $100 less.
My vacant lot is about double my W140.

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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yes, but you get to vote, even when you’re deceased.

And how many states can claim former governors who are convicted felons?

-D

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Annual property tax is $276? Jeez….that’s how much you get charged per day in 
> Illinois, according to my grumpy pops. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 10:56 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
>>> that's what the tax will be.
>> 
>> 
>> No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
>> So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual property 
>> tax is $276.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Annual property tax is $276? Jeez….that’s how much you get charged per day in 
Illinois, according to my grumpy pops. 

AZBob

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> On Aug 29, 2023, at 10:56 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
>> that's what the tax will be.
> 
> 
> No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
> So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual property 
> tax is $276.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I prefer the flat fee based on age, like some states do. I think I pay around 
$40/each for cars in FL. About the same in AZ.

-D

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 10:55 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
>> that's what the tax will be.
> 
> 
> No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
> So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual property 
> tax is $276.
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2023-08-29 11:20, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart 
and

that's what the tax will be.



No appeal in Michigan, it's based on the MSRP coded on the title.
So what if the sales tax on your 420SEL was only $50, your annual 
property tax is $276.


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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I lost two registration stickers for the AZ ML350. They come to the FL house 
because the FL address is where we’re domiciled. The first one came, I mailed 
it to the youngest son in AZ, but he misplaced it before he could put it on the 
car. No biggie. I go online and buy a replacement for $5. USPS never delivers 
it. I even saw it on my USPS delivery thing.

I go to ADOT and explain why I am now asking for a third registration sticker. 
The nice ADOT lady waives the $5 fee. Nice!

-D

> On Aug 29, 2023, at 9:08 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No appeals in AZ. 
> I just traded my Passat for a 2019 Tiguan (the girls won) and tags are $495. 
> The ‘14 Passat was $124. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
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>> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
>> that's what the tax will be.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got a tag renewal bill from the County for $162 on the 12GL450.  We
>>> pay the County for MV tax and then they pay the DMV and the renewal
>>> sticker shows up.  The appraised value shown on the bill was $9330.  I
>>> only paid $4k for it.  I sent in an appeal email yesterday and this
>>> morning it got knocked down to $88 which I guess is reasonable.  Most of
>>> my other vehicles being much older are like $12 or maybe $30 every other
>>> year which has something to do with how the tax is assessed or
>>> something, I never quite understood that.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, not a bad return for 10min of effort.
>>> 
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>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
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>> Von Braun
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>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
>> doing it."
>>   -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
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>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
No appeals in AZ. 
I just traded my Passat for a 2019 Tiguan (the girls won) and tags are $495. 
The ‘14 Passat was $124. 

AZBob

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> On Aug 29, 2023, at 8:21 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
> that's what the tax will be.
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got a tag renewal bill from the County for $162 on the 12GL450.  We
>> pay the County for MV tax and then they pay the DMV and the renewal
>> sticker shows up.  The appraised value shown on the bill was $9330.  I
>> only paid $4k for it.  I sent in an appeal email yesterday and this
>> morning it got knocked down to $88 which I guess is reasonable.  Most of
>> my other vehicles being much older are like $12 or maybe $30 every other
>> year which has something to do with how the tax is assessed or
>> something, I never quite understood that.
>> 
>> Anyway, not a bad return for 10min of effort.
>> 
>> --
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> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
> Von Braun
> 
> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
> doing it."
>-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The Tax Man

2023-08-29 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Excellent. In OK, it doesn't matter what you paid, they look at a chart and
that's what the tax will be.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got a tag renewal bill from the County for $162 on the 12GL450.  We
> pay the County for MV tax and then they pay the DMV and the renewal
> sticker shows up.  The appraised value shown on the bill was $9330.  I
> only paid $4k for it.  I sent in an appeal email yesterday and this
> morning it got knocked down to $88 which I guess is reasonable.  Most of
> my other vehicles being much older are like $12 or maybe $30 every other
> year which has something to do with how the tax is assessed or
> something, I never quite understood that.
>
> Anyway, not a bad return for 10min of effort.
>
> --
> --FT
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OK Don

"Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
are wearing."

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Werner
Von Braun

"In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it.
In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be
doing it."
-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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