Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Clay writes: > > I did a google and I could not find it. Please point me in > the correct direction, as this would be a great tool for such > instances as the one just past. > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, at 05:05 AM, Lee Levitt wrote: > > > Click & Clack Tappet Brothers Light > > Extinguisher They must have taken it off their website (http://www.cartalk.com/). It's a roll of electrical tape. Cut a piece off and tape it over the offending idiot light. Lee '93 300D 2.5 180K
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Lee, I did a google and I could not find it. Please point me in the correct direction, as this would be a great tool for such instances as the one just past. On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, at 05:05 AM, Lee Levitt wrote: Click & Clack Tappet Brothers Light Extinguisher -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
A bit more difficult (although maybe not on a 603) and you must replace with a good one (something too many people I know don't seem to do -- endless repeats of the same old situation!). You also don't usually get something a simple as a warning lamp, either. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Same rule apply for spouses? [Don't imply anything -- very satisfied with mine.] On 12/13/05, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You have at least one bad glow plug, replace them all to make sure. > > > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Do not explain, just fix. Explainations lead to arguments, usually totally removed from the subject at hand, and it's not worth the time. This applies to work situations as well as spousal situations, I've discovered. You have at least one bad glow plug, replace them all to make sure. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Seems an hour putting in new glow plugs would have been much less painfull that trying to explain anything electrical or mechanical to QoD..Mike - Original Message - From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with. Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her. Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange things. Ran around finding which light could be out, and I think I finally got it. Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues. Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash. Idiot light for the glow is not being right. Me - "Well, can you explain it better, please?" QoD - "Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start." Me - "Ok, then what?" QoD - "The car does not run well." Me - "I suspect it is a glow issue" QoD - "The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be the glow plug. I think it is a fuse" Me - "It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, but this is a glow plug. If one or more are out on a cold morning, you car will start, you know that right?" QoD - "No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of lumpy. I know it must be a fuse to the dash lights" Me - "I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you on this dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a visit, because this is going to be more than I can deal with this weekend and I would like their opinion. Just explain it to them so they can ask you the right questions" QoD - "Can you call them? I am really busy" Me - "I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the car and start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell them anything" More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should handle the service guy brain picking. I decide to just check the book after telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ because she has developed a leak in the "framjimnaster" that a proper spec glow plug would resolve. Come up with preglow relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more GP failing in a 606 engine. Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too busy to have me work on the car this week or next. I checked prices for parts from Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would expend. Again advise she call the dealer. Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call Me - "So, when is the car going in?" QoD - "I am too busy right now! The lumping is getting worse. The light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for a minute or something! I think it is the bulb that the fuse is connected to" Me - "Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts" QoD - "Why can't you fix the bulb? You finally made that other idiot light go off" Me - "That was a light, this is a glow plug" QoD - "But this is a light too! It is yellow like the other one" Me - "Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read it is the relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in there, they can fix it. You are going to want good glow plugs this winter when it gets really cold" QoD - OMG! There is a blue idiot light on now! What do I do? What is that?" Me - "Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it" QoD - "Ok Wow, that did it. What went wrong?" Me - "I bet it was the fuse to the "Gurkenmeister", those will blow when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal from the relay. All you have to do is jiggle the stalk and that will wear away some nano particles and it works again. You better get the car in the shop before the Gurkenmeister really dies" It devolves into who is going to call the shop. The car is not going until she kills it and it will no longer start on a cold morning, having worn out the battery. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Clay, You should invest in a roll of Click & Clack Tappet Brothers Light Extinguisher. Guaranteed to take care of any idiot light... Lee > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of redghost > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 1:18 AM > To: Mercedes list > Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing > > The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with. > Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her. > > Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange > things. Ran around finding which light could be out, and I > think I finally got it. > Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues. > > Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash. Idiot > light for the glow is not being right. > > Me - "Well, can you explain it better, please?" > > QoD - "Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start." > > Me - "Ok, then what?" > > QoD - "The car does not run well." > > Me - "I suspect it is a glow issue" > > QoD - "The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be > the glow plug. I think it is a fuse" > > Me - "It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, > but this is a glow plug. If one or more are out on a cold > morning, you car will start, you know that right?" > > QoD - "No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of > lumpy. I know it must be a fuse to the dash lights" > > Me - "I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you > on this dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a > visit, because this is going to be more than I can deal with > this weekend and I would like their opinion. Just explain it > to them so they can ask you the right questions" > > QoD - "Can you call them? I am really busy" > > Me - "I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the > car and start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell > them anything" > > More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should > handle the service guy brain picking. I decide to just check > the book after telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ > because she has developed a leak in the "framjimnaster" that > a proper spec glow plug would resolve. Come up with preglow > relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more GP failing in a 606 engine. > > Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too > busy to have > me work on the car this week or next. I checked prices for > parts from > Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would > expend. > Again advise she call the dealer. > > Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call > > Me - "So, when is the car going in?" > > QoD - "I am too busy right now! The lumping is getting > worse. The light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for > a minute or something! I think it is the bulb that the fuse > is connected to" > > Me - "Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts" > > QoD - "Why can't you fix the bulb? You finally made that > other idiot light go off" > > Me - "That was a light, this is a glow plug" > > QoD - "But this is a light too! It is yellow like the other one" > > Me - "Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read > it is the relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in > there, they can fix it. You are going to want good glow > plugs this winter when it gets really cold" > > QoD - OMG! There is a blue idiot light on now! What do I > do? What is that?" > > Me - "Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it" > > QoD - "Ok Wow, that did it. What went wrong?" > > Me - "I bet it was the fuse to the "Gurkenmeister", those > will blow when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal > from the relay. All you have to do is jiggle the stalk and > that will wear away some nano particles and it works again. > You better get the car in the shop before the Gurkenmeister > really dies" > > It devolves into who is going to call the shop. The car is > not going until she kills it and it will no longer start on a > cold morning, having worn out the battery. > > > -- > Clay > Seattle Bioburner > > 1972 220D - Gump > 1995 E300D - Cleo > 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA > The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > >
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Your wife doesn't appreciate the E300D? I will! Buy the car, that is. On 12/13/05, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Some spouses just don't share the same love for old Mercedes that we do > and > no matter what you do, they will not be happy driving one. > > That's why my Wife drives a new Jeep Grand Cherokee. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > 256-656-1924 > www.kegkits.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of redghost > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:18 AM > To: Mercedes list > Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing > > > The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with. > Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her. > > Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange things. Ran > around finding which light could be out, and I think I finally got it. > Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues. > > Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash. Idiot light for > the glow is not being right. > > Me - "Well, can you explain it better, please?" > > QoD - "Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start." > > Me - "Ok, then what?" > > QoD - "The car does not run well." > > Me - "I suspect it is a glow issue" > > QoD - "The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be the glow > plug. I think it is a fuse" > > Me - "It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, but this > is a glow plug. If one or more are out on a cold morning, you car > will start, you know that right?" > > QoD - "No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of lumpy. I > know it must be a fuse to the dash lights" > > Me - "I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you on this > dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a visit, because > this is going to be more than I can deal with this weekend and I would > like their opinion. Just explain it to them so they can ask you the > right questions" > > QoD - "Can you call them? I am really busy" > > Me - "I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the car and > start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell them anything" > > More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should handle the > service guy brain picking. I decide to just check the book after > telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ because she has developed > a leak in the "framjimnaster" that a proper spec glow plug would > resolve. Come up with preglow relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more > GP failing in a 606 engine. > > Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too busy to have > me work on the car this week or next. I checked prices for parts from > Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would expend. > Again advise she call the dealer. > > Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call > > Me - "So, when is the car going in?" > > QoD - "I am too busy right now! The lumping is getting worse. The > light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for a minute or > something! I think it is the bulb that the fuse is connected to" > > Me - "Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts" > > QoD - "Why can't you fix the bulb? You finally made that other idiot > light go off" > > Me - "That was a light, this is a glow plug" > > QoD - "But this is a light too! It is yellow like the other one" > > Me - "Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read it is the > relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in there, they can fix > it. You are going to want good glow plugs this winter when it gets > really cold" > > QoD - OMG! There is a blue idiot light on now! What do I do? What is > that?" > > Me - "Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it" > > QoD - "Ok Wow, that did it. What went wrong?" > > Me - "I bet it was the fuse to the "Gurkenmeister", those will blow > when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal from the relay. All > you have to do is jiggle the stalk and that will wear away some nano > particles and it works again. You better get the car in the shop > before the Gurkenmeister really dies" > > It devolves into who is going to call the shop. The car is not going > until she kills it and it will no longer start on a cold morning, > having worn out the battery. > > > -- > Clay > Seattle Bioburner > > 1972 220D - Gump > 1995 E300D - Cleo > 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA > The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
Some spouses just don't share the same love for old Mercedes that we do and no matter what you do, they will not be happy driving one. That's why my Wife drives a new Jeep Grand Cherokee. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of redghost Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:18 AM To: Mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing The Queen of Denial has finally gone beyond my ability to deal with. Well, she is fine, she just should have Cleo taken from her. Been complaining to me about odd dummy lights and strange things. Ran around finding which light could be out, and I think I finally got it. Replace ALL the damn lights so that I dealt with intermittent issues. Then she decides there must be a bulb out in the dash. Idiot light for the glow is not being right. Me - "Well, can you explain it better, please?" QoD - "Uh, it sort of does not come on, then it does after I start." Me - "Ok, then what?" QoD - "The car does not run well." Me - "I suspect it is a glow issue" QoD - "The bulb is burning out, the car runs, so it can't be the glow plug. I think it is a fuse" Me - "It is not a fuse. Marshall tells everyone to do fuses, but this is a glow plug. If one or more are out on a cold morning, you car will start, you know that right?" QoD - "No, my glow plug starts the car, it just runs sort of lumpy. I know it must be a fuse to the dash lights" Me - "I think I will read the 124 Bible and get back to you on this dear, in the meantime call the dealer and schedule a visit, because this is going to be more than I can deal with this weekend and I would like their opinion. Just explain it to them so they can ask you the right questions" QoD - "Can you call them? I am really busy" Me - "I have no idea what you have happen and you drive the car and start from cold, I am not going to be able to tell them anything" More discussion ensues over what it could be and who should handle the service guy brain picking. I decide to just check the book after telling her it would be like thousands of $$$ because she has developed a leak in the "framjimnaster" that a proper spec glow plug would resolve. Come up with preglow relay failure, GP #1 dead or two or more GP failing in a 606 engine. Tell her to schedule shop time because both of us are too busy to have me work on the car this week or next. I checked prices for parts from Rusty and amount of knuckle busting and hand wringing I would expend. Again advise she call the dealer. Next day while she is driving to work, I get a call Me - "So, when is the car going in?" QoD - "I am too busy right now! The lumping is getting worse. The light comes on AFTER I start now and stays on for a minute or something! I think it is the bulb that the fuse is connected to" Me - "Just get the shop to check and fix it, they have the parts" QoD - "Why can't you fix the bulb? You finally made that other idiot light go off" Me - "That was a light, this is a glow plug" QoD - "But this is a light too! It is yellow like the other one" Me - "Glow plugs are not lights, and I think from what I read it is the relay as well as glow plugs, so while they are in there, they can fix it. You are going to want good glow plugs this winter when it gets really cold" QoD - OMG! There is a blue idiot light on now! What do I do? What is that?" Me - "Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it" QoD - "Ok Wow, that did it. What went wrong?" Me - "I bet it was the fuse to the "Gurkenmeister", those will blow when the glow plugs are not getting enough signal from the relay. All you have to do is jiggle the stalk and that will wear away some nano particles and it works again. You better get the car in the shop before the Gurkenmeister really dies" It devolves into who is going to call the shop. The car is not going until she kills it and it will no longer start on a cold morning, having worn out the battery. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tired of Argueing
On 12-Dec-05, at 10:17 PM, redghost wrote: QoD - OMG! There is a blue idiot light on now! What do I do? What is that?" Me - "Move the turn stalk back and forth, that should fix it" QoD - "Ok Wow, that did it. What went wrong?" So last weekend I'm returning from the city via the highway at 3:00 in the afternoon and oncoming is someone with their bright lights on, it's really really bright, great lights... They zip past, I look, it's my wife in the 90's wagon with the e500 beams on high! Since it's wired for both the inner and outer lamps for high, it's really bright. Sigh, grab cell phone, hit auto-dial. Dear I think I just passed you on the highway, is the blue light on the dash on? "yes?" Please turn the high beams off, people will like you better... PS headlamps are on in Canada, so we automatically switch them on for the two cars that don't have DRL. Seem when she comes home at night the high beams are left on because of the dark lane, then when you turn them on in the day, why they still are on high, but you don't really notice. Others do tho.. John 1983 300TDt 359k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 156k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 169k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
