Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Richard Hattaway]

13.7-14.2 volts, or so.






 From: Bob Rentfro 
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
 

What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
running?

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
wrote:

> 13.7-14.2 volts, or so.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Bob Rentfro 
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> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
>
>
> What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
> running?
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Peter Frederick]

Make sure the wiring to the alternator is good -- no battery voltage  
to the coil will get you zero output, it's not a generator!


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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[WILTON]

Oops!

Wilton

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From: "Bob Rentfro" 

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I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
wrote:


13.7-14.2 volts, or so.






 From: Bob Rentfro 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery


What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
running?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Richard Hattaway]

I have to ask.. Did you get the alternator from Trent?? 

OK, fun over... although you have all the info, we have almost none.. why did 
it get replaced?  Do you know the battery is good ( I kinda doubt it, but I'm 
not there ) .  Have you checked the meter or repeated the measurment with 
another meter?   LIke someone said, wired wrong, no output.  However it's 
really tough to wire these wrong since they are self excited and use the only 
other terminal they have to tell you when it's charging with a bulb on the 
dash.  So what does the bulb say?? Or if your bulb is mute, what does it tell 
you when you turn on the key.. then start the engine.. ( if you can start it on 
10+ volts.  Light on, then light off when the engine starts??   I doubt it... 
but... 

Most batteries float at 12+.  Not much +, a little.  A battery at 10+ is an 
issue.  Unless it's being drug down to that level by a stupendous load ( like 
all the lights on, the glow relay contacts welded, and the starter hung ) then 
I'd say you got a bad battery.  But I don't know.. I'm not there.



 From: Bob Rentfro 
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
 

I just replaced the alternator and the reading I get across the battery is
10.45.

What the heck...

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Richard Hattaway
wrote:

> 13.7-14.2 volts, or so.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Bob Rentfro 
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> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 6:19 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
>
>
> What should the volt reading across the battery be when the engine is
> running?
>
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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10 volts would be just about one cell dead.

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
Now I have to find a relay.

Bob R
On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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On Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700 Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> engine, volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow
> plug was 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8
> across the battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!

Congratulations.


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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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ATTABOY!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> Now I have to find a relay.
> 
> Bob R
> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
> 
>> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

do you have a working relay to send me, bubba?

Bob R


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

> ATTABOY!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 16, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
> > Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> engine,
> > volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> > 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> > battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> > Now I have to find a relay.
> >
> > Bob R
> > On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
> >
> >> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >>
> >> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Gary Hurst]

you say it was a 7 pin relay?


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> Now I have to find a relay.
>
> Bob R
> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
>
> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Gary Hurst]

i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292 and
208266?


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> you say it was a 7 pin relay?
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
>> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
>> engine,
>> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
>> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
>> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
>> Now I have to find a relay.
>>
>> Bob R
>> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
>>
>> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not ready to
spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if Kleberoo
may have one lying about.

Bob R
Have to check VIN when I get home


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292 and
> 208266?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > you say it was a 7 pin relay?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> >> engine,
> >> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> >> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> >> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> >> Now I have to find a relay.
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Gary Hurst]

i get the $300 part.  i'm trying to figure out a cheaper alternative.

the even scarier part is once those $300 stribels are gone, benz will own
all of them and they will be 4 figures

i personally liked the preglow time system where you pulled a knob on the
dash.  but i'd have probably opposed the electric starter as well!


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not ready to
> spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if Kleberoo
> may have one lying about.
>
> Bob R
> Have to check VIN when I get home
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
>
> > i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292
> and
> > 208266?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst 
> wrote:
> >
> > > you say it was a 7 pin relay?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> > >> engine,
> > >> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug
> was
> > >> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across
> the
> > >> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> > >> Now I have to find a relay.
> > >>
> > >> Bob R
> > >> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> > >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Richard Hattaway]

Although the relay is involved, you need to revisit the diagnosis.

My concern is that having 12+ on the plug and 10+ at the battery says you are 
creating energy somewhere.  Einstein says this can't happen.  The 
battery/alternator are the source in the system, everything else is downhill.  
Go back and remeasure.  Also feel around for warm wires, etc.  If it's the 
relay, about the only thing it can do wrong is not time out or have main 
contacts that are welded together.





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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
 

it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not ready to
spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if Kleberoo
may have one lying about.

Bob R
Have to check VIN when I get home


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292 and
> 208266?
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > you say it was a 7 pin relay?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> >> engine,
> >> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> >> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> >> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> >> Now I have to find a relay.
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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ATTABOY!

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Rentfro" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery


Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the 
engine,

volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
Now I have to find a relay.

Bob R
On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:


10 volts would be just about one cell dead.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Curt Raymond]

I have one I think, if I can find it...

You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats what my 
240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the car glow as long 
as I want.

-Curt


Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
Message-ID:
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
Now I have to find a relay.

Bob R
On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Rich Thomas]

I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$) 
problem on the 300SD the daughter unit is using, had to pay a shop where 
she is to finally figure it out, all the same symptoms and approaches.


But did you  listen

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On 9/16/13 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay.



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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me know.
Thanks, man.

Bob R
On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:

> I have one I think, if I can find it...
>
> You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats
> what my 240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the car
> glow as long as I want.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700
> From: Bob Rentfro 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> Now I have to find a relay.
>
> Bob R
> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
>
> > 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >
> > Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

I know. I learn the hard way.

Bob R
On Sep 17, 2013 6:24 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:

> I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$)
> problem on the 300SD the daughter unit is using, had to pay a shop where
> she is to finally figure it out, all the same symptoms and approaches.
>
> But did you  listen
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/16/13 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
>
>> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay.
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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$300 for a glow plug relay? Are you kidding? Wtf?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i get the $300 part.  i'm trying to figure out a cheaper alternative.
> 
> the even scarier part is once those $300 stribels are gone, benz will own
> all of them and they will be 4 figures
> 
> i personally liked the preglow time system where you pulled a knob on the
> dash.  but i'd have probably opposed the electric starter as well!
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
>> it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not ready to
>> spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if Kleberoo
>> may have one lying about.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> Have to check VIN when I get home
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292
>> and
>>> 208266?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst 
>> wrote:
>>> 
 you say it was a 7 pin relay?
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro 
>>> wrote:
 
> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> engine,
> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug
>> was
> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across
>> the
> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> Now I have to find a relay.
> 
> Bob R
> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
>>> wrote:
> 
>> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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And suck up lots of our precious bandwidth doing it

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On 9/17/13 9:24 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

I know. I learn the hard way.

Bob R
On Sep 17, 2013 6:24 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:


I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$)
problem on the 300SD the daughter unit is using, had to pay a shop where
she is to finally figure it out, all the same symptoms and approaches.

But did you  listen

--R


On 9/16/13 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay.



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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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What year is your car?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:

> I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me know.
> Thanks, man.
> 
> Bob R
> On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> 
>> I have one I think, if I can find it...
>> 
>> You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats
>> what my 240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the car
>> glow as long as I want.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700
>> From: Bob Rentfro 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
>> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
>> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
>> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
>> Now I have to find a relay.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

1980 240D
On Sep 17, 2013 6:44 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:

> What year is your car?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>
> > I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me
> know.
> > Thanks, man.
> >
> > Bob R
> > On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> >
> >> I have one I think, if I can find it...
> >>
> >> You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats
> >> what my 240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the
> car
> >> glow as long as I want.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700
> >> From: Bob Rentfro 
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> engine,
> >> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
> >> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
> >> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> >> Now I have to find a relay.
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Bob Rentfro]

It has a 7 pin connection and a 6 pin connectionand a random white
landed next to the fuse.
On Sep 17, 2013 6:54 AM, "Bob Rentfro"  wrote:

> 1980 240D
> On Sep 17, 2013 6:44 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin"  wrote:
>
>> What year is your car?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
>>
>> > I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me
>> know.
>> > Thanks, man.
>> >
>> > Bob R
>> > On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have one I think, if I can find it...
>> >>
>> >> You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats
>> >> what my 240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the
>> car
>> >> glow as long as I want.
>> >>
>> >> -Curt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700
>> >> From: Bob Rentfro 
>> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >>
>> >> Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
>> engine,
>> >> volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug
>> was
>> >> 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
>> >> battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
>> >> Now I have to find a relay.
>> >>
>> >> Bob R
>> >> On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
>> >>>
>> >>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

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I must trim my posts
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Gary Hurst]

yeah, and it's just going to get worse.  your beloved AZ is selling them
for 6 and change already and i figure they'll be over a grand in 2 years
everywhere.  and 800 dollar car with a 1000 dollar glow plug relay?  only
in benz!


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> $300 for a glow plug relay? Are you kidding? Wtf?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > i get the $300 part.  i'm trying to figure out a cheaper alternative.
> >
> > the even scarier part is once those $300 stribels are gone, benz will own
> > all of them and they will be 4 figures
> >
> > i personally liked the preglow time system where you pulled a knob on the
> > dash.  but i'd have probably opposed the electric starter as well!
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> >
> >> it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not
> ready to
> >> spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if
> Kleberoo
> >> may have one lying about.
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >> Have to check VIN when I get home
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> i think i'm getting it now . the last 6 of your VIN fall between 149292
> >> and
> >>> 208266?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Gary Hurst 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
>  you say it was a 7 pin relay?
> 
> 
>  On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro 
> >>> wrote:
> 
> > Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the
> > engine,
> > volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug
> >> was
> > 12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across
> >> the
> > battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
> > Now I have to find a relay.
> >
> > Bob R
> > On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick" 
> >>> wrote:
> >
> >> 10 volts would be just about one cell dead.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Gary Hurst]

yeah, stop sucking kleb's .

hmmm, wrong list  :(


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Rich Thomas <
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>
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>
> On 9/17/13 9:24 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
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>> I know. I learn the hard way.
>>
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>> On Sep 17, 2013 6:24 AM, "Rich Thomas" > constructivity.net >
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>>>
>>> But did you  listen
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/13 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
>>>
>>>  Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay.


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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Jim Cathey]

Gonna take a helluva switch to do the 50-80A DC reliably.
I'd be opening the GP relay for a look-see, maybe some
contact filing and/or resoldering.  Also, make _sure_
that the purple line from the ignition switch doesn't
bounce up and down, like from a going-out ignition switch,
as that'll trip the rela¥ on as you drive.  A shot of
Deoxit into the ignition switch, the electrical part,
would not go amiss.

You could try starting the car and then disconnecting
the _little_ GPR plug, see if that makes a difference.
If the problem goes away, then it might not be the
relay's fault at all.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Mitch Haley]

Jim Cathey wrote:


You could try starting the car and then disconnecting
the _little_ GPR plug, see if that makes a difference.
If the problem goes away, then it might not be the
relay's fault at all.


Good point. If the signal wire (purple?) is intermittent, the relay would 
properly keep resetting itself.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Curt Raymond]

Ford starter solenoid.

Remember to make the cables to the glowplugs big. When I first got mine they 
were real small, I forget exactly, 16ga maybe. Surprisingly they didn't just 
burn up but you had to glow a looong time. I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which 
is the biggest my crimper would support. I have some much thicker wire (2ga?) 
but I've never gotten around to making more cables.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:00:38 -0700
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Gonna take a helluva switch to do the 50-80A DC reliably.
I'd be opening the GP relay for a look-see, maybe some
contact filing and/or resoldering.  Also, make _sure_
that the purple line from the ignition switch doesn't
bounce up and down, like from a going-out ignition switch,
as that'll trip the rela? on as you drive.  A shot of
Deoxit into the ignition switch, the electrical part,
would not go amiss.

You could try starting the car and then disconnecting
the _little_ GPR plug, see if that makes a difference.
If the problem goes away, then it might not be the
relay's fault at all.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[Larry T]

Congratulations!

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D


On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the engine,
volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
Now I have to find a relay.

Bob R
On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:


10 volts would be just about one cell dead.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

[WILTON]

'Nother ATTABOY.

Wilt

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Congratulations!

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D


On 9/16/2013 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:
Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the 
engine,

volts across the battery was 10.45. And volts on the first glow plug was
12.6ish. Then I remove the fuse in the relay, volts are 13.8 across the
battery and 0 volts on the glow plug. Bam!
Now I have to find a relay.

Bob R
On Sep 16, 2013 7:54 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:


10 volts would be just about one cell dead.

Peter

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