Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Would it be possible to just remove the leaky pump and use a bolt to plug the hole as a temporary fix? I don't know. Making a new air seal gasket was my temporary fix. In 2006. Sold the car that year, it's probably still working. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb240d.html#31Mar2006 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Maybe you could stretch an o ring over the knob part and then screw it in so the ring seals against the housing Mike On Sep 1, 2011 9:26 PM, "Michael Canfield" wrote: > That would be a pretty odd bolt to come up with. > > Mike > On Sep 1, 2011 6:39 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: >> Jim Cathey writes: >> >>> There are two seals in the screw-down one, neither are >>> separately available. The one that seals it when screwed >>> down, however, is easily replaceable (IIRC) but you have >>> to make your own. (Scissors, buna-N rubber gasket mat'l.) >>> I did this on the Frankenheap. The other seal makes a mess >>> when you pump, and cannot be replaced without basically >>> destroying the pump, but so long as the pump doesn't leak >>> air when not in use you can put up with a bit of that. >> >> Would it be possible to just remove the leaky pump and use a bolt to >> plug the hole as a temporary fix? I sort of need to take stock and get >> another order together for Rusty to get over the shipping charge >> minimum. >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1979 300SD >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
That would be a pretty odd bolt to come up with. Mike On Sep 1, 2011 6:39 PM, "Allan Streib" wrote: > Jim Cathey writes: > >> There are two seals in the screw-down one, neither are >> separately available. The one that seals it when screwed >> down, however, is easily replaceable (IIRC) but you have >> to make your own. (Scissors, buna-N rubber gasket mat'l.) >> I did this on the Frankenheap. The other seal makes a mess >> when you pump, and cannot be replaced without basically >> destroying the pump, but so long as the pump doesn't leak >> air when not in use you can put up with a bit of that. > > Would it be possible to just remove the leaky pump and use a bolt to > plug the hole as a temporary fix? I sort of need to take stock and get > another order together for Rusty to get over the shipping charge > minimum. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1979 300SD > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Jim Cathey writes: > There are two seals in the screw-down one, neither are > separately available. The one that seals it when screwed > down, however, is easily replaceable (IIRC) but you have > to make your own. (Scissors, buna-N rubber gasket mat'l.) > I did this on the Frankenheap. The other seal makes a mess > when you pump, and cannot be replaced without basically > destroying the pump, but so long as the pump doesn't leak > air when not in use you can put up with a bit of that. Would it be possible to just remove the leaky pump and use a bolt to plug the hole as a temporary fix? I sort of need to take stock and get another order together for Rusty to get over the shipping charge minimum. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
I believe it requires a 15/16 crow foot wrench to get the primer out and 7/8? to put the newer style in. You could bend a wrench to do the job and if it is stubborn to get loose it helps to get the fuel lines out of the way. Then, if you went that far it is only 3 10mm bolts to take off the whole lift pump assy. and use a real wrench in a vise. Mike On Sep 1, 2011 9:46 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Thats all you need, you just unscrew the old one and screw this one on. > > On 8/31/2011 6:40 PM, Allan Streib wrote: >> Allan Streib writes: >> >>> Peter Frederick writes: >>> Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). >>> Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. >>> >>> Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? >> Unless I can replace just the plunger part and not the whole >> assembly ... that's only about $20. >> >> http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211&itempk=10752&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.13 >> >> Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Thats all you need, you just unscrew the old one and screw this one on. On 8/31/2011 6:40 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streib writes: Peter Frederick writes: Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? Unless I can replace just the plunger part and not the whole assembly ... that's only about $20. http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211&itempk=10752&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.13 Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Are you talking about the primer pump? They are $190? You got to be kidding. If I have one it would probably be the old leaky kind. On 8/31/2011 6:36 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Peter Frederick writes: Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Fred Moir writes: > 000 090 00 50 $18.95 from Rusty. NOT $190 Yep I was looking at the "assembly" not just the manual plunger/pump. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
000 090 00 50 $18.95 from Rusty. NOT $190 Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 8/31/2011 7:36 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Peter Frederick writes: Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
the manual pump to purge any air. The pump was leaking as I operated it, and after screwing it back down and starting the car, there is now a massive fuel leak around the pump stem. There are two seals in the screw-down one, neither are separately available. The one that seals it when screwed down, however, is easily replaceable (IIRC) but you have to make your own. (Scissors, buna-N rubber gasket mat'l.) I did this on the Frankenheap. The other seal makes a mess when you pump, and cannot be replaced without basically destroying the pump, but so long as the pump doesn't leak air when not in use you can put up with a bit of that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Dan Penoff writes: > I thought the newer primer pumps were relatively inexpensive? It's > been a while since I bought one..., Yeah just the plunger is about $19. The entire assembly (called "primer pump assembly" on Rusty's site) was $190. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
I thought the newer primer pumps were relatively inexpensive? It's been a while since I bought one..., Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2011, at 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: >> Yeah I was looking at the entire primer pump assembly. So the new style >> plunger can replace the old directly? That's not bad then. > > Two separate things here. There's the lift pump, and there's the hand primer > pump that screws into it. One can do without a hand pump, but not get along > with a hand pump that leaks air into or fuel out of the system. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Allan Streib wrote: Yeah I was looking at the entire primer pump assembly. So the new style plunger can replace the old directly? That's not bad then. Two separate things here. There's the lift pump, and there's the hand primer pump that screws into it. One can do without a hand pump, but not get along with a hand pump that leaks air into or fuel out of the system. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Mitch Haley writes: > Allan Streib wrote: >> Peter Frederick writes: >> >>> Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump >>> -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not >>> require screwing down (and also do not leak). >> >> Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. > > I paid him about $15 for the last one, about 9 years ago. > > Ah, here we are: > http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211&itempk=10752&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.13 Yeah I was looking at the entire primer pump assembly. So the new style plunger can replace the old directly? That's not bad then. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Allan Streib wrote: Peter Frederick writes: Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. I paid him about $15 for the last one, about 9 years ago. Ah, here we are: http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211&itempk=10752&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Allan Streib writes: > Peter Frederick writes: > >> Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump >> -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not >> require screwing down (and also do not leak). > > Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. > > Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? Unless I can replace just the plunger part and not the whole assembly ... that's only about $20. http://www.buymbparts.biz/item.wws?sku=W0133-1715211&itempk=10752&mfr=Bosch&weight=0.13 Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Peter Frederick writes: > Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump > -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not > require screwing down (and also do not leak). Ugh... $190 on Rusty's website. Anyone got a good used one? Kaleb? > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116, more fuel leaks
Replace the old style screw down pump with the new style "thumb" pump -- the old in is not really repairable, and the new ones do not require screwing down (and also do not leak). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
