Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
I will have to dig it out from the desk, so I might as well take a look. Thanks, Don -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem Another possibility is a bad capacitor on the motherboard - we have a few thousand Dells with bursting caps at work. Look for caps that are bursting out the top, or leaned over to one side from bursting out the bottom. You might be able to replace a bad one, though I have no idea if one coul dbe the cause of a dead USB sub-system. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Russ Williams wrote: > Bill, > Try pulling the CMOS Battery and replace it with a fresh one. > I had a client that has a Dell Optiplex that was doing the same thing last > week. > Pulled the battery and tested it. Voltage was Ok. Reinstalled it and same > thing > No Keyboard present. For Grins and Giggles I installed a brand new battery. > Restarted it and Keyboard worked. > Good luck with the PS2 to USB converters Dell's don't like them. > I tried 6 on my Optiplex 320 none worked. Yet 4 of the 6 worked on my > laptop with the > same keyboard. > > Russ W. > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
Another possibility is a bad capacitor on the motherboard - we have a few thousand Dells with bursting caps at work. Look for caps that are bursting out the top, or leaned over to one side from bursting out the bottom. You might be able to replace a bad one, though I have no idea if one coul dbe the cause of a dead USB sub-system. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Russ Williams wrote: > Bill, > Try pulling the CMOS Battery and replace it with a fresh one. > I had a client that has a Dell Optiplex that was doing the same thing last > week. > Pulled the battery and tested it. Voltage was Ok. Reinstalled it and same > thing > No Keyboard present. For Grins and Giggles I installed a brand new battery. > Restarted it and Keyboard worked. > Good luck with the PS2 to USB converters Dell's don't like them. > I tried 6 on my Optiplex 320 none worked. Yet 4 of the 6 worked on my > laptop with the > same keyboard. > > Russ W. > -- > OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
Bill, Try pulling the CMOS Battery and replace it with a fresh one. I had a client that has a Dell Optiplex that was doing the same thing last week. Pulled the battery and tested it. Voltage was Ok. Reinstalled it and same thing No Keyboard present. For Grins and Giggles I installed a brand new battery. Restarted it and Keyboard worked. Good luck with the PS2 to USB converters Dell's don't like them. I tried 6 on my Optiplex 320 none worked. Yet 4 of the 6 worked on my laptop with the same keyboard. Russ W. On 5/29/2011 6:14 PM, Bill Ringgold wrote: I would say I have bad luck, but as the last computer I bought that was actually "in the box" new was Commodore 64 I don't think I have had all that much bad luck. This is the third time this calendar year I have had one go out on me, though, and it is a bit irritating. Let me ask what I hope is a fairly simple question for some o you computer guys: Currently I am running a 2nd hand Dell desktop with XP, SP3. A couple of weeks ago it started having trouble recognizing the keyboard [which I had been using for months]. Usually a couple of reboots would have things running again. Now it goes to a screen that says I do not have a keyboard [it lies], then to a boot menu [Ununtu, diagnostics or XP] which I cannot access. I have tried three keyboards so far with no success. From this point I am not sure what to do next. I have a variety of diagnostic disks, but they always boot to a menu, and I have no keyboard or mouse to select anything. As is usual, storms in the area - I do have a good surge protector [but no APS]. Any suggestions? I am thinking at this point it might be time to break down and actually get a new one, but unfortunately a daughter just needed a lot of assistance getting her ancient Neon road worthy and I am a tad on the short-of-funds side. Suggestions appreciated - Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
I've been coming to that conclusion, but am loathe to admit defeat [else I would not have loved and driven a 30 year old 300SD until my wife insisted I get the nearly flawless S420. But, when the time is up the time is up. I'll check on resources and replacement equipment tomorrow. Thanks all - Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 9:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem > Bill Ringgold wrote: > Computer is USB only, and I don't have a ps/2 to usb adaptor > at the moment [two on order]. I could buy a new adaptor, but > the only ones I can find are $14 and a new keyboard is only > $12 - and I have 5 already but 4 are ps/2 and the other is the > usb that quit working - oh, and I did try mom's new usb > keyboard with no response. It could be some odd combination of > things I just have not tried as yet. For the moment I will > just keep using this old one my wife plays solitaire on and > wait for my adaptors to arrive or my bank account to recover. There are some Linux LiveCDs that will, after a timeout, boot with no input. But the ones I'm most familiar with boot to a command prompt! So those won't help any. I'm voting for hardware failure. Either the USB driver chip on the motherboard, or the portion of the motherboard that communicates with USB. A PCI USB card might work if the problem is the former. Being a command-line junkie and familiar with Linux, if it were on my desk, I think I would: 1. plug it into the local network that has HDCP running 2. boot with SystemRescue or GRML 3. login over the network and begin poking around. I really don't think there's much reason to try anything more with the existing USB ports. Seems to me you have proven them dead. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
> Bill Ringgold wrote: > Computer is USB only, and I don't have a ps/2 to usb adaptor > at the moment [two on order]. I could buy a new adaptor, but > the only ones I can find are $14 and a new keyboard is only > $12 - and I have 5 already but 4 are ps/2 and the other is the > usb that quit working - oh, and I did try mom's new usb > keyboard with no response. It could be some odd combination of > things I just have not tried as yet. For the moment I will > just keep using this old one my wife plays solitaire on and > wait for my adaptors to arrive or my bank account to recover. There are some Linux LiveCDs that will, after a timeout, boot with no input. But the ones I'm most familiar with boot to a command prompt! So those won't help any. I'm voting for hardware failure. Either the USB driver chip on the motherboard, or the portion of the motherboard that communicates with USB. A PCI USB card might work if the problem is the former. Being a command-line junkie and familiar with Linux, if it were on my desk, I think I would: 1. plug it into the local network that has HDCP running 2. boot with SystemRescue or GRML 3. login over the network and begin poking around. I really don't think there's much reason to try anything more with the existing USB ports. Seems to me you have proven them dead. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
No mouse, and I have tried a daisy chain usb connected to the back [where the keyboard has been plugged in for months] and the front usb with no success. When the keyboard stopped responding the mouse never gets a chance because I can never respond to the screen menu to load anything. The only input I have is on/off. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem Bill Ringgold wrote: > When I crawled under the desk I > discovered that this computer does not have anything but USB. Does your USB mouse work? Does the keyboard work when plugged into another USB port? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
Computer is USB only, and I don't have a ps/2 to usb adaptor at the moment [two on order]. I could buy a new adaptor, but the only ones I can find are $14 and a new keyboard is only $12 - and I have 5 already but 4 are ps/2 and the other is the usb that quit working - oh, and I did try mom's new usb keyboard with no response. It could be some odd combination of things I just have not tried as yet. For the moment I will just keep using this old one my wife plays solitaire on and wait for my adaptors to arrive or my bank account to recover. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem > Bill Ringgold wrote: > Currently I am running a 2nd hand Dell desktop with XP, SP3. A > couple of weeks ago it started having trouble recognizing the > keyboard [which I had been using for months]. Usually a couple > of reboots would have things running again. Now it goes to a > screen that says I do not have a keyboard [it lies], then to a > boot menu [Ununtu, diagnostics or XP] which I cannot access. > I have tried three keyboards so far with no success. From > this point I am not sure what to do next. If it acts the same with three different software boots, it's probably hardware. Is it a USB or PS2 keyboard? Do you have one of the other type you can try? Or stick in a USB card and try a USB keyboard in that. If none of that works - I'd guess motherboard troubles. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
If there was a way to reach the bios I would try that. No keyboard is what it says, but the keyboard and mouse are both gone. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem You may have to enable USB on startup in the bios before it will recognize a USB keyboard. I had an old Dell that I had to figure out by trial and error, when I tried using a wireless keyboard and mouse with it. Rick Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Lee" wrote: > I agree. Verify by connecting a USB keyboard and firing up the system. > > FWIW, working keyboards can often be had for a buck or two at Salvation > Army and other thrift stores. > > Lee > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> USB keyboard? >> Or even a ps/2 to USB keyboard adapter? >> It sounds like your PS/2 port is dead. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
Bill Ringgold wrote: When I crawled under the desk I discovered that this computer does not have anything but USB. Does your USB mouse work? Does the keyboard work when plugged into another USB port? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
> Bill Ringgold wrote: > Currently I am running a 2nd hand Dell desktop with XP, SP3. A > couple of weeks ago it started having trouble recognizing the > keyboard [which I had been using for months]. Usually a couple > of reboots would have things running again. Now it goes to a > screen that says I do not have a keyboard [it lies], then to a > boot menu [Ununtu, diagnostics or XP] which I cannot access. > I have tried three keyboards so far with no success. From > this point I am not sure what to do next. If it acts the same with three different software boots, it's probably hardware. Is it a USB or PS2 keyboard? Do you have one of the other type you can try? Or stick in a USB card and try a USB keyboard in that. If none of that works - I'd guess motherboard troubles. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
You may have to enable USB on startup in the bios before it will recognize a USB keyboard. I had an old Dell that I had to figure out by trial and error, when I tried using a wireless keyboard and mouse with it. Rick Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2011, at 6:37 PM, "Lee" wrote: > I agree. Verify by connecting a USB keyboard and firing up the system. > > FWIW, working keyboards can often be had for a buck or two at Salvation > Army and other thrift stores. > > Lee > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> USB keyboard? >> Or even a ps/2 to USB keyboard adapter? >> It sounds like your PS/2 port is dead. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
That had been my fervent hope, and I ordered a couple of ps/2 to usb adaptors, which have not arrived. When I crawled under the desk I discovered that this computer does not have anything but USB. I did try the USB keyboard from mom's new Windows 7 computer, but that didn't show up either. I'm having serious doubts about the parentage of Dell computers. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem USB keyboard? Or even a ps/2 to USB keyboard adapter? It sounds like your PS/2 port is dead. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
I agree. Verify by connecting a USB keyboard and firing up the system. FWIW, working keyboards can often be had for a buck or two at Salvation Army and other thrift stores. Lee Mitch Haley wrote: > > USB keyboard? > Or even a ps/2 to USB keyboard adapter? > It sounds like your PS/2 port is dead. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
USB keyboard? Or even a ps/2 to USB keyboard adapter? It sounds like your PS/2 port is dead. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem
Mercedes content: her Neon was so bad that I let her take my "new" S420 to Ft. Lauderdale for 4 days. I do love my S420 and my wife's S320, but really can't do work on either of them, so not any MB questions these days. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bill Ringgold Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:15 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] Yet another computer problem I would say I have bad luck, but as the last computer I bought that was actually "in the box" new was Commodore 64 I don't think I have had all that much bad luck. This is the third time this calendar year I have had one go out on me, though, and it is a bit irritating. Let me ask what I hope is a fairly simple question for some o you computer guys: Currently I am running a 2nd hand Dell desktop with XP, SP3. A couple of weeks ago it started having trouble recognizing the keyboard [which I had been using for months]. Usually a couple of reboots would have things running again. Now it goes to a screen that says I do not have a keyboard [it lies], then to a boot menu [Ununtu, diagnostics or XP] which I cannot access. I have tried three keyboards so far with no success. From this point I am not sure what to do next. I have a variety of diagnostic disks, but they always boot to a menu, and I have no keyboard or mouse to select anything. As is usual, storms in the area - I do have a good surge protector [but no APS]. Any suggestions? I am thinking at this point it might be time to break down and actually get a new one, but unfortunately a daughter just needed a lot of assistance getting her ancient Neon road worthy and I am a tad on the short-of-funds side. Suggestions appreciated - Bill R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
