Re: [MBZ] random orbital
On 12/05/2012 9:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first choice. Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has the large 9"-12" pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking router. The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to damage the finish. I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will quickly destroy a paint job. I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. Dan I have the old Wen model with the double handles. Works fine. Gives one a bit of a workout but produces pretty good shine. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
Now that I am close to a computer I was able to find some examples: http://www.amazon.com/Titan-22610-10-Inch-Electric-Polisher/dp/B000UOHZ7C Here is a B&D that's a 6": http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B77CPT I like my 10" model, as it covers a lot of area, which allows me to do a car in relatively short time. I will usually apply the (3M Show Car Wax) by hand in one section, then use the buffer to buff the wax out/off. The areas I can't get with the buffer are taken off by hand. Using this method you can do a typical four door sedan in under and hour, easy. The ergonomics of this type of buffer are much better for doing large areas, too, at least I think they are. Just my $0.02. Dan On May 12, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > After I've thought about this for a few moments... Dan is right. I > generally use my rotary model for some serious restoration work. 20 year > old cars that have never seen wax, etc. For general polishing, it really > is overkill. Go for the orbital for this case. > > The one the rusty posted really looks cool... > > Jaime > > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > >> As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a >> buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first >> choice. >> >> Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than >> you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious >> restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the >> vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. >> >> I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has >> the large 9"-12" pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking >> router. >> >> The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get >> into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to >> damage the finish. >> >> I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for >> extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. >> >> Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will >> quickly destroy a paint job. >> >> I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and >> requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some >> serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. >> >> Dan >> >> On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. >>> Porter-Cable 7424 6" random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it >>> does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. >>> >>> Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. >>> >>> RLE >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
After I've thought about this for a few moments... Dan is right. I generally use my rotary model for some serious restoration work. 20 year old cars that have never seen wax, etc. For general polishing, it really is overkill. Go for the orbital for this case. The one the rusty posted really looks cool... Jaime On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a > buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first > choice. > > Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than > you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious > restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the > vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. > > I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has > the large 9"-12" pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking > router. > > The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get > into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to > damage the finish. > > I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for > extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. > > Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will > quickly destroy a paint job. > > I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and > requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some > serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. > > Dan > > On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: > > >> ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. > >> > > Porter-Cable 7424 6" random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it > > does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. > > > > Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. > > > > RLE > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
As the resident detail maniac, I would encourage anyone who wants to buy a buffer/polisher to stay away from the right angle style as their first choice. Why? Because these will do serious damage to a car's finish faster than you will realize it. They are great for production work and serious restoration, but for the weekend car waxer or occasional detailing the vertical random orbital polisher is the way to go. I don't have any links handy, but this is the type of polisher that has the large 9"-12" pad and has handles on each side, like a woodworking router. The only negative about these is the sometimes difficult ability to get into tight spaces, but otherwise they work great and are very unlikely to damage the finish. I have an old Craftsman model I think I paid $30 for, and another $20 for extra pads. I can polish and wax a car in about an hour. Right angle polishers are great, but without practice and caution will quickly destroy a paint job. I have a right angle polisher, but I rarely use it, as it's heavy and requires a lot more effort to use. I get it out when I am doing some serious compounding or paint restoration. Otherwise it's overkill. Dan On May 11, 2012, at 11:42 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: >> ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. >> > Porter-Cable 7424 6" random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it > does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. > > Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. > > RLE > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] random orbital
> ...Which polisher? Rotary or Random Orbital?.. > Porter-Cable 7424 6" random orbital. I've had mine for a long time and it does the job with minimum effort. Amateurs should not use rotaries. Looks like the lowest prices are under $120. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
