Re: Mersenne: NT / 2000 / XP users

2001-09-04 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 06:57 PM 04-09-01 -0400, George Woltman wrote:

>   I've just discovered a free utility that lets you run prime95 as
>a service under the above operating systems.  The good news is you
>will now have access to prime95's user interface to monitor progress!
>
>   To try it, follow the instructions at http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
>They are near the v20 download info, but it will work for v21 too.

Hi, it's me, the anti-geek again.

Can someone explain to me why (and if) it's better to run Prime95 as a
service under these OSs?  Is there a speed advantage?  Also, who would be
serving whom?

Referrals to relevant FAQs will also be appreciated.

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Re: Mersenne: New v21 beta

2001-08-31 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 10:52 PM 29-08-01 -0400, George wrote:

>The world's longest beta test continues.  New beta of prime95 is at
>http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

Great!  Now, if you could please tell me the filename?  All I could find
was p95v21a.zip, which is the previous beta version ... isn't it?

Please forgive if I'm being dense again.

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Re: Mersenne: Prime95 shutdown mystery.

2000-07-27 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 01:32 PM 7/27/00 -, Brian J. Beesley wrote:
>On 27 Jul 00, at 0:04, Bruce A Metcalf wrote:
>
>> Having made thsi change, the program now runs, but I can't get any
>> response from PrimeNet other than:
>> 
>>  ERROR 2250:  Server Unavailable.
>
>Since it seems to be working OK for me, it's possible you have a name 
>lookup problem.
>
>If you don't have an entry for entropia.com in your hosts file ... try 
>adding the following line to it:
>
>216.120.70.80  entropia.com

Tried -- no change.


>If it _still_ doesn't work, try tracing your route to 216.120.70.80 
>using the traceroute tool in linux, or a suitable Windows utility

Windows [tracert] found 216.120.70.80 without problem.


Thanks to all for the efforts to date.  Please continue, as I'm sure this
is something we can overcome.

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Re: Mersenne: Prime95 shutdown mystery.

2000-07-26 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

Several folks have responded privately about my problem with Prime95
crashing, much thanks.  All recommended:

>In prime.ini, change/add the line:
>
>UseHTTP=1


Having made thsi change, the program now runs, but I can't get any response
from PrimeNet other than:

ERROR 2250:  Server Unavailable.

And a referral to a faq that recommends the same change.

Any ideas about what I should try next?

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Re: Mersenne: Prime95 shutdown mystery.

2000-07-26 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 08:13 AM 7/26/00 -0700, Bob Margulies wrote:

>I have just finished a case (M9836773) and expected Prime 95 (version
>20.6, running under Win 98) to begin another. Instead I have the message
>"This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down."
>Under "Details" it reports exception 6d9H in module RPCRT4.DLL at
>0187:7fb953e3. I have not been able to restart it.

Oh goodie!  So I'm *not* the only one.

My system just crashed the same way.  Even a cold boot and reinstalling
from the prime95.zip file doesn't fix it.  I've got a Pentium 150 running
Prime 95 ver. 20.6 under Windows 95.  And advice will be most appreciated.

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Mersenne: Rolling Average in Prime95

2000-07-08 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

Greetings,

I'm running Prime95 on three slow Windoze95 systems.  Just to keep track of
system utilization, I periodicaly check the Rolling Average for each
machine, with the intent of helping me decide which is in greatest need of
an upgrade.

I've noticed lately that all three systems -- including one used only as a
network dialup server -- have seen abrupt drops in their Rolling Average
value, with one system dropping to nearly 500.  While I might be using half
of all available CPU cycles for other applications, it being only a Pentium
150MHz, it doesn't explain the sharp drops in the Rolling Average of the
other two systems which have a constant application load.

Is it possible that something in either version 20.4 is miscalculating
Rolling Averages, or should I assume that some application of mine is
gobbling CPU cycles at a much higher rate than before?

Thanks for any insights y'all might care to offer.

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Re: Mersenne: error

2000-05-17 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 09:57 AM 5/17/00 +0200, Benny.VanHoudt wrote:

>I've been using prime95 since sept. 1998 and never had any problems.
>Until yesterday I was testing an exponent in the 9.5 - 10 million
>range, but suddenly an error appeared while contacting the Primenet
>server (the exponent was almost finished +98%).
>
>I got the commen windows 95 error message: This program has performed
>an illegal operation and will be shut down.

I had a similar incident this past week running Prime95 version 20.4.1
under Windoze95 testing in the 4.7M range.  Since it *is* a Windoze
machine, I first tried just rebooting, only to get the same failure
immediately upon Prime95 starting.

I then reinstalled Prime95 from the download zip file and have been running
fine since.  No corruption of the data files were observed, and no
reptition of the crash has yet occurred.

I wasn't going to offer it as a bug report until it happened again, but it
looks like I'm not alone.

If there is any data I could collect on the occasion of another crash that
could help analysis of the bug, please let me know and I'll try to secure
and report same.

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Mersenne: GIMPS in Science News

2000-03-29 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

Sorry to be slow with this - I'm behind in my reading.

GIMPS was mentioned favorably in an article in the 4 March 2000 issue of
"Science News" under the title "Great Computations."  It includes
commentary on a variety of distributed computing projects, and in addition
to GIMPS it mentions George's software, our recent prime discoveries,
Scott's Entropia.com, and even some contrite advice from Aaron.

The entire article is presently online at
<http://www.sciencenews.org/2304/bob1.asp>.  Thought you'all might be
interested in the coverage.



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Mersenne: ReCache for Windoze (was: mprime startup at boot-time)

1999-10-24 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 08:06 AM 10/23/99 +0100, Brian J. Beesley wrote:

>Conversely (or perhaps perversely), Windows 
>needs ReCache, _especially_ just after a fresh boot, to make Prime95 
>run at its best speed.

Hello, I must have missed the discussion of ReCache the last time around.
Would someone be willing to explain where this can be obtained, how to
install, and the likely benefits to Prime95?

I'd also be particularly interested in an automatic routine, as my Windoze
box crashes 3 or 4 times a day.  (Yes, I know -- but I've only read through
chapter 3 in "Linus for Dummies" so far.)


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Re: Mersenne: Error: Illegal Sumout

1998-10-29 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 05:09 PM 10/28/98 -0800, Luke Welsh wrote:

>>[...] "ERROR: ILLEGAL SUMOUT" [...] Any suggestions?
>
>It happened to me.  Turned out to be bad tag RAM.

Luke, could you explain what "tag RAM" is please?

Help in identifying same would be nice too, if possible.

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Re: Mersenne: A short gdunken on Aaron B's situation

1998-09-20 Thread Bruce A Metcalf

At 09:44 AM 9/18/98 -0600, Aaron Blosser wrote:

>>We have been having quite a bit of discussion on what to do with
>>Aaron's results, given that U.S. West claims that he didn't have
>>premission to use the machines in question.
>
>Maybe I can end this right now.

Ah, if it were only that simple.


>Remember, it's about finding primes!

Correct!  Not about something so petty as what level of morality this
committe decides to take it upon themselves to enforce.


>At any rate, it wouldn't do any good to throw out the *results* of the work
>done (even if they were *only* trial factoring results).  But I give my
>hearty approval that, if you all think my credit should be removed for the
>work done on US WEST machines, then do it.

If, Aaron, you are some day charged and convicted of some civil or criminal
tort in this matter, then I think that might be a reasonable part of the
punishment.  However, I believe that in civilized societies, we follow the
sequence of having the trial *first, and *then the punishment.

(No, as a matter of fact, I *don't consider the FBI's wanton confiscation
to be within the bounds of "civilized society".)

>From all I can tell from this distance, you attempted to secure approval
for loading the program, and obtained it.  Perhaps US West should be
pursuing your supervisor who may have incorrectly granted it.

It also seems clear to me that loading NTPrime on so many systems all at
once, and with the 2 minute recall default, was an improper and
inconsiderate action.  The good folks trying to maintain the PrimeNet
server had a good deal of difficulty as a result of your dumping so many
new systems on all at once -- you should have thought of that, and ramped
up the number of systems with greater care.

Perhaps whoever set the redial default to just 2 minutes ought to rethink
their decision as well.  It's the programmer's responsibility to try to
predict and prevent foolish or ill-advised actions by the users.

I can also realisticly imagine that hundreds of systems all pinging ever 2
minutes might well plug up a firewall gateway pretty severely, and that
such might have impacted the local system.  Aaron, I know you've pointed
out the lack of similar failures in other locations, but perhaps Phoenix
was the weak link in the system, or possibly the routing used by those
other cities might have passed through Phoenix for some reason.  I don't
know, it's just a guess.  But you should have tested for that possibility
first -- blaming US West for having a flaky system isn't an honorable defense.

A few things are clear to me, however:

* Aaron acted without malicious intent, thus criminal charges are highly
unlikely to be filed or sustained.

* US West has a problem with internal and external authority and access to
their computer systems.

* US West overreacted to the situation in calling in the FBI without
sufficient knowledge or data.

* The FBI overreacted to the situation by confiscating Aaron's equipment
without sufficient knowledge or data -- of either the existance of a crime
or of the equipment being confiscated.

* US West, if it is still convinced that Aaron is accessing their network,
has worse security than the average 7-Eleven.

* Most reporters can't tell a prime number from the prime directive, and
worse, they don't seem to care.

* George and this community have here an excellent opportunity to publicise
and promote both GIMPS and a better public understanding of prime numbers.
One of us has already taken a step in this direction, the rest of us should
also consider how we might best turn this incident to good purposes.

and finally,

* The powers that be in GIMPS and PrimeNet shouldn't emulate these fools by
leaping to any of own unfounded and unjustified actions.

Aaron, I hope you'll stick with this group, and with the search.  I also
hope you'll keep us informed of your status as the situation permits --
heaven knows we won't get your side of the story through the media.

Now could we all just go back to the math and stop filling up everybody's
mailbox please?

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