Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free ,Users]
David L. Nicol wrote: I imagine a better GIMPS graphical display would look like part of the set from "twelve monkeys" with fake big black dials and twitching needles, that indicate system performance and available swap space and so forth. It could be a cute graphical system monitor application. You know, this isn't a bad idea. Over clockers already use Gimps to test their systems, why not provide some useful info too? If an OPTIONAL screen saver came with Gimps that provided useful system info we might get people attracted to Gimps to get the "cool system info panel" (which by the way requires Gimps to be running in the background). Cheers... Russ _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]
As another point, I know many who are in SETI solely for the nice graphical display. I don't know whether GIMPS, given the abstract nature of the work we do, could ever really develop such a display. I imagine a better GIMPS graphical display would look like part of the set from "twelve monkeys" with fake big black dials and twitching needles, that indicate system performance and available swap space and so forth. It could be a cute graphical system monitor application. Of course you can maximize your prime95 window. Hmm... not all that interesting to most folks... perhaps just have Prime95 update some SNMP counters... I think it'd be "neato" to use MRTG to track various counters of the machines I have running Prime95/NTPrime. Then you're just offloading the task of doing charts and stuff to some other machine. Doesn't really address the issue of having it show some cool stuff locally, although someone could write a screen saver that takes those counters and does something with it on the client itself. Also has the nice benefit of keeping the task of groovy displays out of the code of the program, and lets others write their own "plug ins" in any way they want. Aaron _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:15:13 -0700, Aaron Blosser wrote: perhaps just have Prime95 update some SNMP counters... I think it'd be "neato" to use MRTG to track various counters of the machines I have running Prime95/NTPrime. Then you're just offloading the task of doing charts and stuff to some other machine. Doesn't really address the issue of having it show some cool stuff locally, although someone could write a screen saver that takes those counters and does something with it on the client itself. Also has the nice benefit of keeping the task of groovy displays out of the code of the program, and lets others write their own "plug ins" in any way they want. Aaron Earlier, I suggested the idea of a graphical display that would show the Tower of Hanoi, with either one (or two, as needed) steps for each iteration done. This would make it look like things were continiously done, and I wouldn't think it'd be very hard to code. Nathan _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
Re: [Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]
Its true, I read mersenne list archive about as often as there are lunar eclipses. "Halliday, Ian" wrote: As another point, I know many who are in SETI solely for the nice graphical display. I don't know whether GIMPS, given the abstract nature of the work we do, could ever really develop such a display. I imagine a better GIMPS graphical display would look like part of the set from "twelve monkeys" with fake big black dials and twitching needles, that indicate system performance and available swap space and so forth. It could be a cute graphical system monitor application. Of course you can maximize your prime95 window. -- David Nicol 816.235.1187 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home of the V-90 modern _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
[Fwd: Re: Mersenne: Distributed Computing Mandatory For Juno's Free Users]
From Nathan, for the list From: Nathan Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Halliday, Ian wrote: http://au.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/20010203/nbtech/981156900-2685255736.html describes new conditions for free juno users - once again SETI is cited as a "successful" example of distributed computing. IIRC, we have had four successes, they haven't had any... Yes, we have. If GIMPS succeeds yet again, the finder of the prime will get money, and fame within the mathematical community. Ditto if a user of the distributed.net project finds a RC5 key (except less money and more transitory fame). It could be argued that someone who finds /them/ with SETI and is announced as a co-discoverer will not be wanting for fame or money for the rest of his/her life. Additionally, SETI is as likely to make a discovery now as it ever was (read: not very). d.net and GIMPS are both attempting tasks which are orders of magnitude less likely to succeed than those they have completed in the past. As another point, I know many who are in SETI solely for the nice graphical display. I don't know whether GIMPS, given the abstract nature of the work we do, could ever really develop such a display. How will the new conditions described in their terms affect us (or any other voluntary distributed project for that matter) ? I sincerely doubt that many Juno users will stick with that service if Juno ever attempts to fully enforce the terms: "[users permit Juno to] upload such results to Juno's central computers during a subsequent connection, whether initiated by you in the course of using the Service or by the Computational Software." (snip) "Juno may require you to leave your computer turned on at all times, and may replace the 'screen saver' software that runs on your computer while the computer is turned on but you are not using it. " Does that mean that Juno will become angry at subscribers who take their machines down for maintence, or do a reboot mandated by the operating system? My ex-girlfriend from high school and her family use Juno as their free email provider. I sincerely doubt that, if Juno began enforcing these sorts of terms, they would switch to e.g. NetZero or another adware internet provider, and begin using web-based email. The privacy concerns alone of Juno running software quasi-voluntary on customer systems are chilling. I just checked Slashdot, but they've had something up since yesterday: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/02/01/2127239mode=nested On a different matter, what happened to Lennart's offer of champagne to the person who guessed a milestone date correctly? Have we reached that milestone yet? If so, who won? Regards, Ian Nathan Russell _ Unsubscribe list info -- http://www.scruz.net/~luke/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers
