Re: Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
At 11:42 PM 11/16/98 +, you wrote: >No, you don't understand, it is set correctly. Well, it's very inconvenient, annoying, and decidedly non-standard. I'm on about eight mailings lists and the others all dothings the normal way. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
At 11:43 PM 11/16/98 +, you wrote: >Netscpae Communicator has Reply-to-all Collabra? I am not going to touch it with a ten foot pole. Collabra 4.0 sometimes hangs *the operating system* for no apparent reason. Because of these experiences, I don't trust 4.5 further than I can throw it. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Re: Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
Paul Derbyshire writes: [deleted] Since you deleted all the text that you're replying to and your mailer did not add to the 'References:' header, I cannot even be sure what you are replying to, but I'll assume you're replying to me since I'm the only one, as far as I noticed, that said anything about UNIX; however, since even that reference was just a mention of Linux in a footnote, it's quite possible I'm mistaken. On the other hand, I see that my current mailer, GNU Emacs' vm package, added my note's msg-ID to the references above despite your mailer not doing so. It is somewhat rude or inconsiderate to be unix-centric. Yes, I suppose it is. Did you think I was being UNIX-centric? That was certainly not my intention, though I must admit a bias in that direction since I do not often use other systems. However, I have not only used other systems at times, I have been systems, network, and email admin for many such machines, on and off the Internet since before it was the Internet, over the past 14 or so years. Being the kind of group this is, I suspect there are others out there with even more experience, especially with MSWindows and Macs, but I _have_ used mailers on all three. Your assuming otherwise could itself be construed as rude or inconsiderate, it seems to me. I use a PC running Windoze... the mail client, the best free one I could find, is Eudora Light. Many people do use MSWindows and Eudora. Personally, I found Eudora so cumbersome and troublesome that I gave up on it quickly, but perhaps it has improved since and there are certainly a lot of people out there that prefer it over all mailers. That doesn't mean it has no bugs, nor that it follows Internet standards. Unfortunately, I do not have recent information on MSWindows mailers, so someone else will have to help you with that if you want to try something else. I presume there are still several newsgroups on the subject, if nothing else. It has an option to reply to the Reply-To or to the Reply-To and any addresses Cc:ed but that's it as far as I know... Now, if one of us had the source to Eudora Light, this could be fixed - um, OK, perhaps "changed" is a better word - in a jiffy; does anyone have it? Somehow, I doubt it, though I've been wrong before, so it's possible I'm wrong now; thus, I really am asking. In the mean time, I'm nearly certain that there are other free emailers out there for MSWindows that do this and other things (like 'References:') better. But, as others have noted, this discussion does not really belong on this list; anyone who's interested is free to contact me directly and, if there's interest, I'll coordinate a short-term mailing "list" to get better info on mailers and report back to those that care. Will http://www.garlic.com/~wedgingt/mersenne.html
Re: Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
[deleted] It is somewhat rude or inconsiderate to be unix-centric. I use a PC running Windoze... the mail client, the best free one I could find, is Eudora Light. It has an option to reply to the Reply-To or to the Reply-To and any addresses Cc:ed but that's it as far as I know... -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
Paul Derbyshire writes: To list admins: Please fix the damn listserv software so it sets Reply-To: to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will you? Right now it is unintelligently just forwarding the messages, leaving the Reply-To pointing at the author, and it is tedious to have to keep changing the address whenever replying to the list. Also error-prone. Sorry, I disagree. Of course, my email programs* allow me to reply to either just the author (Reply-To or From) or the author and everyone on the To: and Cc: lists. In fact, my opinion is that any email program that doesn't allow both is broken and should be fixed. To Yuri Sorkin: your e-mail address bounces... that's not exactly a friendly gesture, signing on this list with a bogus address. Yuri has been on this list and part of GIMPS, including providing and testing programs, from very early on; I think it's far more likely that his mail server is experiencing problems. In any case, the listserv software automatically drops addresses that bounce too many times or something similar. I myself have been caught by that last two or three times when my mail server was having problems. Will * Linux comes with several; I believe that they can all do this.
Mersenne: [meta] List bug, please fix; Yuri Sorkin, your email is phony
To list admins: Please fix the damn listserv software so it sets Reply-To: to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will you? Right now it is unintelligently just forwarding the messages, leaving the Reply-To pointing at the author, and it is tedious to have to keep changing the address whenever replying to the list. Also error-prone. To Yuri Sorkin: your e-mail address bounces... that's not exactly a friendly gesture, signing on this list with a bogus address. -- .*. "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not -() < circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a `*' straight line."- -- B. Mandelbrot |http://surf.to/pgd.net _ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|
