Re: Mersenne: Net Abuse

[Robert Friberg]

Shaun writes:

>   I think Mr. Derbyshire is trying to prove that he is neither
> of the adjectives in his tagline. 


   "smooth" and "straight" are the only adjectives I can see.


>   For myself, I would rather be silent and thought a fool,
> than to open my mouth and remove all doubt.

   Too late.

   ;^P

 ~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~^~v~
>
>   Robert Friberg
>   Delphi, C, Perl Developer
>
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Mersenne: Net Abuse

[Griffith, Shaun]

I think Mr. Derbyshire is trying to prove that he is neither
of the adjectives in his tagline. 

I was having a lot of fun reading this list. I don't look
forward to the day when it isn't any fun anymore.

For myself, I would rather be silent and thought a fool,
than to open my mouth and remove all doubt.

-Shaun 
--

From: Paul Derbyshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:52:51 -0500
    Subject: Re: Mersenne: Net abuse



- -- 
   .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones,
coastlines are not
- -()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does
lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."
-
-- B. Mandelbrot  |http://surf.to/pgd.net
_ | Paul Derbyshire
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|

Re: Mersenne: Net abuse

[Paul Derbyshire]

At 08:54 PM 11/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I know numerous ISP and private email servers who automatically block any
SMTP
>from a known 'open relay' server.

Usa.net and globalserve.net are not open relays.
-- 
   .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
-()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."-
-- B. Mandelbrot  |http://surf.to/pgd.net
_ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|

Re: Mersenne: Net abuse

[John R Pierce]

>...as I was saying... they have been obnoxious net neighbors for years
>although this capricious and inconsistent blocking of arbitrary email
>addresses is a new one on me.


I know numerous ISP and private email servers who automatically block any SMTP
from a known 'open relay' server.  There are several 'services' online which
monitor said open relays, and provide automatic blocking lists for these
sites.  http://maps.vix.com/rbl is one such service.

-jrp

Re: Mersenne: Net abuse

[Saint D]

Is all of this really necessary on the list?  Does it further the hunt for
prime numbers?

Kel

Re: Mersenne: Net abuse

[Paul Derbyshire]

At 03:49 PM 11/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>CRL actually bounces mail from rogue sites and well-known net-abusers.

They also bounce mail from usa.net which is neither a rogue site nor a
net-abuser, well-known or otherwise. My guess is that they are stupid and
moronic and have been suckered into thinking usa.net is a net-abuser simply
because usa.net is an address sometimes forged onto spam originating from
such places as ix.netcom.com and Earthstink. (If they would only look at
the Received: headers and do a traceroute or two they'd know where that
shit really came from, but they are either stupid or lazy.)
CRL is an irresponsible net neighbor and they have been somewhat
troublesome and unfriendly for years although it is only recently that they
seem to be become a real annoyance.
CRL is also notorious for the hypocritial policy of wilfully hosting
spamvertised websites.

> I see his "More CRL cluelessness about spammer websites" from 7/22/98 etc.

...as I was saying... they have been obnoxious net neighbors for years
although this capricious and inconsistent blocking of arbitrary email
addresses is a new one on me.
-- 
   .*.  "Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
-()  <  circles, and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a
   `*'  straight line."-
-- B. Mandelbrot  |http://surf.to/pgd.net
_ | Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Programmer & Humanist|ICQ: 10423848|

Mersenne: Net abuse

[Yuri Sorkin]

Will Edgington wrote:
> 
> Paul Derbyshire writes:
> 
>To Yuri Sorkin: your e-mail address bounces... that's not exactly a
>friendly gesture, signing on this list with a bogus address.
> 
> Yuri has been on this list and part of GIMPS, including providing and
> testing programs, from very early on; I think it's far more likely
> that his mail server is experiencing problems.

Hi Will,

CRL actually bounces mail from rogue sites and well-known net-abusers. To 
my deep regret, they give false reasons, and I told what I think about it 
in my Usenet post on 8/5/97. However, Mr. Derbyshire is unlikely not know 
about this problem and whether my address is real. Not only he used in 
past to repost messages which he received from this address, among 336 
hits yielded by 
http://www.dejanews.com/dnquery.xp?QRY=Derbyshire&DBS=2&ST=PS&defaultOp=AND&LNG=ALL&format=terse&showsort=score&maxhits=100&subjects=&groups=news.admin.net-abuse.*&authors=&fromdate=&todate=
 I see his "More CRL cluelessness about spammer websites" from 7/22/98 etc.

While I'm here, what are best modern programs for large integers?

Yuri Sorkin