Re: Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-08 Thread Russel Brooks

John R Pierce wrote:
 yeah, ugh.  Well, the system came with 256MB of PC133 ECC registered SDRAM
 (2 * 128MB), I've fortified it with an additional 1GB of PC133 ECC
 registered SDRAM (4 * 256MB).  I would *hope* any memory error would trip a
 ECC error.

I thought ECC memory was supposed to Correct any errors and continue,
not just detect them.

cheers... Russ

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Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-07 Thread John R Pierce

Ugh.  I think I mentioned I had a new PowerEdge 4400 server in my labs with
dual 600MHz P3-XEON coppermines running on a ServerWorks chipset that has
dual PC133 SDRAM busses?  Well, I fired up mprime on it today, and running
two concurrent instances, have gotten several ERROR: SUMOUT things, each
time both processes checked out within a few minutes of each other.   The
CPUs are running cold as can be (that thing has massive cooling).   I left
it running a single instance to see if its a SMP issue...

-jrp


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Re: Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-07 Thread Stefan Struiker


Fascinating (for me). How much memory do you have, and what is each
XEON cache size?  And (pleading ignorance) what OS are you running?

Best Regards,
Stefanovic


John R Pierce wrote:

 Ugh.  I think I mentioned I had a new PowerEdge 4400 server in my labs with
 dual 600MHz P3-XEON coppermines running on a ServerWorks chipset that has
 dual PC133 SDRAM busses?  Well, I fired up mprime on it today, and running
 two concurrent instances, have gotten several ERROR: SUMOUT things, each
 time both processes checked out within a few minutes of each other.   The
 CPUs are running cold as can be (that thing has massive cooling).   I left
 it running a single instance to see if its a SMP issue...

 -jrp

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Re: Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-07 Thread John R Pierce

Stefanovic asks...
 Fascinating (for me). How much memory do you have, and what is each
 XEON cache size?  And (pleading ignorance) what OS are you running?

1.2GB (!), 256k cache per ( :( the 0.18u coppermine xeons are only available
this way), and RedHat Linux 6.1, special Dell SBE version.

George says...

 What a shame.  It could be a memory problem instead

yeah, ugh.  Well, the system came with 256MB of PC133 ECC registered SDRAM
(2 * 128MB), I've fortified it with an additional 1GB of PC133 ECC
registered SDRAM (4 * 256MB).  I would *hope* any memory error would trip a
ECC error.  Tomorrow, I might pull the 1GB out and leave just the original
256MB to see what happens...

Lets see whether a single instance runs all night... If it does, then I'm
gonna have to suspect a cache coherency problem which is likely
architectural, ugh.  This machine uses the ServerWorks III LE chipset
(formerly Reliance Computer Corporation, they make high end SMP server
chipsets for Compaq, Dell, HP, SuperMicro and others).

-jrp


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Re: Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-07 Thread Stefan Struiker

If I had added the 1 Gig, and it wouldn't play I'd pull it.
Sounds so gorgeous otherwise, it's just got to fly...arghhh.

John R Pierce wrote:

 Stefanovic asks...
  Fascinating (for me). How much memory do you have, and what is each
  XEON cache size?  And (pleading ignorance) what OS are you running?

 1.2GB (!), 256k cache per ( :( the 0.18u coppermine xeons are only available
 this way), and RedHat Linux 6.1, special Dell SBE version.

 George says...

  What a shame.  It could be a memory problem instead

 yeah, ugh.  Well, the system came with 256MB of PC133 ECC registered SDRAM
 (2 * 128MB), I've fortified it with an additional 1GB of PC133 ECC
 registered SDRAM (4 * 256MB).  I would *hope* any memory error would trip a
 ECC error.  Tomorrow, I might pull the 1GB out and leave just the original
 256MB to see what happens...

 Lets see whether a single instance runs all night... If it does, then I'm
 gonna have to suspect a cache coherency problem which is likely
 architectural, ugh.  This machine uses the ServerWorks III LE chipset
 (formerly Reliance Computer Corporation, they make high end SMP server
 chipsets for Compaq, Dell, HP, SuperMicro and others).

 -jrp

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RE: Mersenne: mprime on a Dell PowerEdge

2000-04-07 Thread Aaron Blosser

yeah, ugh.  Well, the system came with 256MB of PC133 ECC registered SDRAM
(2 * 128MB), I've fortified it with an additional 1GB of PC133 ECC
registered SDRAM (4 * 256MB).  I would *hope* any memory error would trip a
ECC error.  Tomorrow, I might pull the 1GB out and leave just the original
256MB to see what happens...

Lets see whether a single instance runs all night... If it does, then I'm
gonna have to suspect a cache coherency problem which is likely
architectural, ugh.  This machine uses the ServerWorks III LE chipset
(formerly Reliance Computer Corporation, they make high end SMP server
chipsets for Compaq, Dell, HP, SuperMicro and others).

Well, that'd be a shame if it was architectural.

I had a chance to test out a Poweredge last year...just a quad PIII Xeon
though, before the new chips were out.

It performed admirably under NT and running 4 instances of NTPrime.

I must say though, the Compaq 4 way "blew" it away (well, by a few percentage
points) when running multiple instances on each CPU.

I recently got some info on Compaq's new Proliant servers that'll be using the
new CPU's...  I'm under NDA, so I'm not 100% sure what info is already public
and what isn't. :(  I'm sure I can at least say that the new machines use the
latest Xeon's, run at 133MHz FSB, use Compaq's own architecture, as always.
They're avoiding the Intel chipset, and the Compaq rep had some funny stuff to
say about Intel's chipsets...  They have the latest 64 bit/66 MHz PCI slots,
etc. etc. etc.  Looking really good.  I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one
of the 8-way Proliant 8000/8500 boxes.  With 4 CPU's and about 1GB or so,
they're a steal at about $42,000...probably less through the other vendors.

Let's see...what else...they'll support a lot more memory, 8 or 16GB I seem to
recall...  Of course, you'd need Windows 2000 to support that much.

Anyway, expected release dates for those nice little boxes are from this month
out to June for all the different models.  Basically, they're revamping the
entire Proliant (and workstation) lines to include support for 133MHz FSB and
all the new chips.  And what with the 820 and 840 chipsets being somewhat
lousy, it's nice having Compaq's own stuff on there, so you get real SDRAM
support and all the other goodies.

Aaron

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