Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Achim Passauer



Aaron,
 
you´re right. I had to check in a result and if you have to 
use the manual way to do this and if you have to pay per minute for every 
internet connection than it´s wiry that the server is down for days and nobody 
told you that this was planned or not planned and when the server will be 
available again.
 
Regards
Achim
 

  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
  Von: 
  Aaron 
  Blosser 
  An: Mersenne@Base. Com 
  Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2001 
  17:21
  Betreff: Re: Mersenne: Prime Net 
  Server
  
  The thing is that even a 2-3 day outage is no big 
  deal, because if we are all responsible GIMPSers, then we have our "days of 
  work" configuration set to more than a couple days worth, right?  So the 
  worst that should have happened is that you have a result to check back in and 
  have to wait for that while the next number is already crunching. 
  :)
  
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I 
beg your pardon: you didn´t really expect to get informed about a planned 
outage BEFORE it happens or a crash AFTER it happened, did 
you?
 
If 
you did expect this, then you should have joined another 
distributed-computing project like SETI. They do inform their participants 
about such things. But people who are cool enough to find 
million-digit-primes should be able to find out that the server is down the 
whole weekend. Well, you have to pay for it (in Germany), but who 
cares?
 
Such an outage didn´t occur for the first time in 
my (nearly) three years supporting GIMPS and others will follow. May be 
that´s one reason why GIMPS lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the 
last six months.
 
Regards
Achim

  Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: Matt Goodrich 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 
  2001 21:36An: Mersenne List (E-mail)Betreff: 
  Mersenne: Prime Net Server
  Is there 
  scheduled maint. going on with the server today, or is this a unscheduled 
  outage?
  Matt


Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Nathan Russell

On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:56:34 +0200, "Jörg Thomsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>it isn't that easy at all. The default parameter for networkretries is, afaik, 10 
>minutes. So
>most clients try to connect every 10 minutes until thy got a timeout. And the timeout 
>seems to be
>very long :-/. I think we loose much power on these gimpsserver fails.
>
>
> Regards
>   Jörg

However, AFAIK, the client continues working while it is trying to
connect; it's multithreaded.  

As Aaron said, by default more than enough work is cached to get you
through these sorts of outages.  

Nathan
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Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Russel Brooks

John R Pierce wrote:
> I dunno, I've let about 1/2 my machines drop out, they were mostly p133 and
> below, they've been replaced with fewer much faster machines.

My P133 is still doing useful GIMPS work; just not very fast.

Cheers... Russ

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Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Jörg Thomsen





Hi,

it isn't that easy at all. The default parameter for networkretries is, afaik, 10 minutes. So
most clients try to connect every 10 minutes until thy got a timeout. And the timeout seems to be
very long :-/. I think we loose much power on these gimpsserver fails.


 Regards
   Jörg

--Original Message Text---
From: Aaron Blosser
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:21:57 -0700

The thing is that even a 2-3 day outage is no big deal, because if we are all responsible GIMPSers, then we have our "days of work" configuration set to more than a couple days worth, right? So the worst that should have happened is that you have a result to check back in and have to wait for that while the next number is already crunching. :)
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I beg your pardon: you didn´t really expect to get informed about a planned outage BEFORE it happens or a crash AFTER it happened, did you?
 
If you did expect this, then you should have joined another distributed-computing project like SETI. They do inform their participants about such things. But people who are cool enough to find million-digit-primes should be able to find out that the server is down the whole weekend. Well, you have to pay for it (in Germany), but who cares?
 
Such an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly) three years supporting GIMPS and others will follow. May be that´s one reason why GIMPS lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last six months.
 
Regards
Achim
Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Matt Goodrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 2001 21:36
An: Mersenne List (E-mail)
Betreff: Mersenne: Prime Net Server


Is there scheduled maint. going on with the server today, or is this a unscheduled outage?
Matt







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Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Aaron Blosser



The thing is that even a 2-3 day outage is no big 
deal, because if we are all responsible GIMPSers, then we have our "days of 
work" configuration set to more than a couple days worth, right?  So the 
worst that should have happened is that you have a result to check back in and 
have to wait for that while the next number is already crunching. 
:)

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  Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:34 
  PM
  Subject: AW: Mersenne: Prime Net 
  Server
  
  I 
  beg your pardon: you didn´t really expect to get informed about a planned 
  outage BEFORE it happens or a crash AFTER it happened, did 
  you?
   
  If 
  you did expect this, then you should have joined another distributed-computing 
  project like SETI. They do inform their participants about such things. But 
  people who are cool enough to find million-digit-primes should be able to find 
  out that the server is down the whole weekend. Well, you have to pay for 
  it (in Germany), but who cares?
   
  Such 
  an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly) three years 
  supporting GIMPS and others will follow. May be that´s one reason why GIMPS 
  lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last six 
  months.
   
  Regards
  Achim
  
Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: Matt Goodrich 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 
2001 21:36An: Mersenne List (E-mail)Betreff: Mersenne: 
Prime Net Server
Is there 
scheduled maint. going on with the server today, or is this a unscheduled 
outage?
Matt


Re: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-09 Thread John R Pierce

> Such an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly)
> three years supporting GIMPS and others will follow. May be that´s
> one reason why GIMPS lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last
six months.

I dunno, I've let about 1/2 my machines drop out, they were mostly p133 and
below, they've been replaced with fewer much faster machines.

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