[Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-05 Thread Bob Gleitsmann
Hello,

Can someone explain the value of including this in 
mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:

ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
endif

?
This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is enabled. One 
side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what, making 
debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic effects (or 
even detectable ones). 
But maybe I am missing something. 

Best Wishes,

Bob Gleitsmann
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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-06 Thread Brian Paul

On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:

Hello,

Can someone explain the value of including this in
mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:

ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
endif

?
This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is enabled. One
side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what, making
debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic effects (or
even detectable ones).
But maybe I am missing something.


We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for 
example.


I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.

If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:

LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`

in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?

-Brian
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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-06 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul  wrote:
> On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Can someone explain the value of including this in
>> mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:
>>
>> ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
>> LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
>> endif
>>
>> ?
>> This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is enabled.
>> One
>> side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what, making
>> debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic
>> effects (or
>> even detectable ones).
>> But maybe I am missing something.
>
> We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for
> example.
>
> I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.
>
> If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:
>
>        LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`
>
> in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?

I think the question is, what else is in llvm-config --cflags? If all
that's needed is the include paths, then --cppflags would be
sufficient. However, if there are macro definitions or compiler flags
(e.g. -fomit-frame-pointer) in --cflags that are needed to properly
use llvm, then I guess you need --cflags. This is really a bug in
llvm, but the last time someone here tried to bring it up to the llvm
people, it was dismissed. Here's that bug:

http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8220

There's some more in the mesa archives, but I can't find the thread
now. Sadly, that bug became a discussion about pkg-config which was
not what was intended.

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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-06 Thread Corbin Simpson
Isn't there a --cflags-only-I or something along those lines?

Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C.

On Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM, "Dan Nicholson"  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul  wrote:
>> On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Can someone explain the value of including this in
>>> mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:
>>>
>>> ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
>>> LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
>>> endif
>>>
>>> ?
>>> This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is
enabled.
>>> One
>>> side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what,
making
>>> debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic
>>> effects (or
>>> even detectable ones).
>>> But maybe I am missing something.
>>
>> We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for
>> example.
>>
>> I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.
>>
>> If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:
>>
>>LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`
>>
>> in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?
>
> I think the question is, what else is in llvm-config --cflags? If all
> that's needed is the include paths, then --cppflags would be
> sufficient. However, if there are macro definitions or compiler flags
> (e.g. -fomit-frame-pointer) in --cflags that are needed to properly
> use llvm, then I guess you need --cflags. This is really a bug in
> llvm, but the last time someone here tried to bring it up to the llvm
> people, it was dismissed. Here's that bug:
>
> http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8220
>
> There's some more in the mesa archives, but I can't find the thread
> now. Sadly, that bug became a discussion about pkg-config which was
> not what was intended.
>
> --
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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-06 Thread Brian Paul
I'd like to simply try --cppflags for now and see if that fixes the 
problem for us.  There's a few -D flags that we also need; it's not 
just the -I path.


-Brian

On 12/06/2010 11:27 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:

There is an option --includefiles that returns the directory with the include
files. It isn't prefixed by -I so that would have to be worked out. Is that all
that is needed? Seems like it should be.

BG
On Monday, December 06, 2010 12:58:11 pm Corbin Simpson wrote:

Isn't there a --cflags-only-I or something along those lines?

Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C.

On Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM, "Dan Nicholson"  wrote:

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul  wrote:

On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:

Hello,

Can someone explain the value of including this in
mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:

ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
endif

?
This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is


enabled.


One
side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what,


making


debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic
effects (or
even detectable ones).
But maybe I am missing something.


We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for
example.

I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.

If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:
LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`

in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?


I think the question is, what else is in llvm-config --cflags? If all
that's needed is the include paths, then --cppflags would be
sufficient. However, if there are macro definitions or compiler flags
(e.g. -fomit-frame-pointer) in --cflags that are needed to properly
use llvm, then I guess you need --cflags. This is really a bug in
llvm, but the last time someone here tried to bring it up to the llvm
people, it was dismissed. Here's that bug:

http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8220

There's some more in the mesa archives, but I can't find the thread
now. Sadly, that bug became a discussion about pkg-config which was
not what was intended.

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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-06 Thread José Fonseca


On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:58 -0800, Brian Paul wrote:
> I'd like to simply try --cppflags for now and see if that fixes the 
> problem for us.  There's a few -D flags that we also need; it's not 
> just the -I path.

I agree.

The scons build has been using --cppflags since the very beginning. I
don't recall any problem.

> On 12/06/2010 11:27 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:
> > There is an option --includefiles that returns the directory with the 
> > include
> > files. It isn't prefixed by -I so that would have to be worked out. Is that 
> > all
> > that is needed? Seems like it should be.
> >
> > BG
> > On Monday, December 06, 2010 12:58:11 pm Corbin Simpson wrote:
> >> Isn't there a --cflags-only-I or something along those lines?
> >>
> >> Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C.
> >>
> >> On Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM, "Dan Nicholson"  wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul  wrote:
>  On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Can someone explain the value of including this in
> > mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:
> >
> > ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
> > LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
> > endif
> >
> > ?
> > This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is
> >>
> >> enabled.
> >>
> > One
> > side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what,
> >>
> >> making
> >>
> > debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic
> > effects (or
> > even detectable ones).
> > But maybe I am missing something.
> 
>  We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for
>  example.
> 
>  I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.
> 
>  If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:
>  LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`
> 
>  in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?
> >>>
> >>> I think the question is, what else is in llvm-config --cflags? If all
> >>> that's needed is the include paths, then --cppflags would be
> >>> sufficient. However, if there are macro definitions or compiler flags
> >>> (e.g. -fomit-frame-pointer) in --cflags that are needed to properly
> >>> use llvm, then I guess you need --cflags. 

-fomit-frame-pointer doesn't cause ABI changes. It's fine to mix code
built with/without it.

> This is really a bug in
> >>> llvm, but the last time someone here tried to bring it up to the llvm
> >>> people, it was dismissed. Here's that bug:
> >>>
> >>> http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8220
> >>>
> >>> There's some more in the mesa archives, but I can't find the thread
> >>> now. Sadly, that bug became a discussion about pkg-config which was
> >>> not what was intended.

Jose


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Re: [Mesa-dev] LLVM_CFLAGS

2010-12-08 Thread Bob Gleitsmann
There is an option --includefiles that returns the directory with the include 
files. It isn't prefixed by -I so that would have to be worked out. Is that all 
that is needed? Seems like it should be.

BG
On Monday, December 06, 2010 12:58:11 pm Corbin Simpson wrote:
> Isn't there a --cflags-only-I or something along those lines?
> 
> Sending from a mobile, pardon the brevity. ~ C.
> 
> On Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM, "Dan Nicholson"  wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Brian Paul  wrote:
> >> On 12/05/2010 02:06 AM, Bob Gleitsmann wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> 
> >>> Can someone explain the value of including this in
> >>> mesa/src/gallium/Makefile.template:
> >>> 
> >>> ifeq ($(MESA_LLVM),1)
> >>> LIBRARY_DEFINES += $(LLVM_CFLAGS)
> >>> endif
> >>> 
> >>> ?
> >>> This effectively adds the LLVM cflags to gcc compiles if LLVM is
> 
> enabled.
> 
> >>> One
> >>> side-effect of this is to include -O3 optimization no matter what,
> 
> making
> 
> >>> debugging very difficult. Removing it seems to have no catastrophic
> >>> effects (or
> >>> even detectable ones).
> >>> But maybe I am missing something.
> >> 
> >> We need some of the LLVM C flags to get the -I path for headers, for
> >> example.
> >> 
> >> I think we should use llvm-config --cppflags instead of --cflags.
> >> 
> >> If you're using autoconf, try changing this line:
> >>LLVM_CFLAGS=`$LLVM_CONFIG --cflags`
> >> 
> >> in configure.ac to use --cppflags instead.  Does that help?
> > 
> > I think the question is, what else is in llvm-config --cflags? If all
> > that's needed is the include paths, then --cppflags would be
> > sufficient. However, if there are macro definitions or compiler flags
> > (e.g. -fomit-frame-pointer) in --cflags that are needed to properly
> > use llvm, then I guess you need --cflags. This is really a bug in
> > llvm, but the last time someone here tried to bring it up to the llvm
> > people, it was dismissed. Here's that bug:
> > 
> > http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=8220
> > 
> > There's some more in the mesa archives, but I can't find the thread
> > now. Sadly, that bug became a discussion about pkg-config which was
> > not what was intended.
> > 
> > --
> > Dan
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