Re: [Mesa-dev] [PATCH] egl/x11/dri3: do not expose the preserved swap behavior (to be squashed)

2015-11-10 Thread Eric Anholt
Martin Peres  writes:

> The preserved swap behavior is currently untested in piglit and not supported
> on the GLX side. Before working on implementing it for EGL/DRI3, let's
> disable it until support comes.
>
> This patch is trivial enough and will likely be squashed in the commit
> egl/x11: Implement dri3 support with loader's dri3 helper
>
> Signed-off-by: Martin Peres 

This looks good to me.  I don't think anybody really cares about
SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED -- the buffer_age stuff was what you really
wanted all along.

I don't think I'll get around to detailed review of the rest, so
definitely don't block on me for landing this.


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Re: [Mesa-dev] [PATCH] egl/x11/dri3: do not expose the preserved swap behavior (to be squashed)

2015-11-19 Thread Martin Peres

On 11/11/15 00:44, Eric Anholt wrote:

Martin Peres  writes:


The preserved swap behavior is currently untested in piglit and not supported
on the GLX side. Before working on implementing it for EGL/DRI3, let's
disable it until support comes.

This patch is trivial enough and will likely be squashed in the commit
egl/x11: Implement dri3 support with loader's dri3 helper

Signed-off-by: Martin Peres 

This looks good to me.  I don't think anybody really cares about
SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED -- the buffer_age stuff was what you really
wanted all along.


Hey Eric and Martin,

It seems like KWin is relying on SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED for its EGL 
backend. Should we add proper support for it in mesa or should we 
propose a patch for kwin to test for the extension to be present before 
using it?


Martin, what is your opinion on this since buffer age is what you need 
and you already have support for it for the glx and wayland backends?


Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Mesa-dev] [PATCH] egl/x11/dri3: do not expose the preserved swap behavior (to be squashed)

2015-11-19 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:54:22 PM CET Martin Peres wrote:
> On 11/11/15 00:44, Eric Anholt wrote:
> > Martin Peres  writes:
> >> The preserved swap behavior is currently untested in piglit and not
> >> supported on the GLX side. Before working on implementing it for
> >> EGL/DRI3, let's disable it until support comes.
> >> 
> >> This patch is trivial enough and will likely be squashed in the commit
> >> egl/x11: Implement dri3 support with loader's dri3 helper
> >> 
> >> Signed-off-by: Martin Peres 
> > 
> > This looks good to me.  I don't think anybody really cares about
> > SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED -- the buffer_age stuff was what you really
> > wanted all along.
> 
> Hey Eric and Martin,
> 
> It seems like KWin is relying on SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED for its EGL
> backend. Should we add proper support for it in mesa or should we
> propose a patch for kwin to test for the extension to be present before
> using it?
> 
> Martin, what is your opinion on this since buffer age is what you need
> and you already have support for it for the glx and wayland backends?

That's certainly a left over from before buffer age.  I don't know whether we 
can remove it unconditionally. Not every GLES harware which does support X11 
supports buffer age.

I assume the smartest thing to do is not ask for PRESERVED if buffer age is 
supported.

Cheers
Martin

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Re: [Mesa-dev] [PATCH] egl/x11/dri3: do not expose the preserved swap behavior (to be squashed)

2015-11-19 Thread Martin Peres

On 19/11/15 14:06, Martin Graesslin wrote:

On Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:54:22 PM CET Martin Peres wrote:

On 11/11/15 00:44, Eric Anholt wrote:

Martin Peres  writes:

The preserved swap behavior is currently untested in piglit and not
supported on the GLX side. Before working on implementing it for
EGL/DRI3, let's disable it until support comes.

This patch is trivial enough and will likely be squashed in the commit
egl/x11: Implement dri3 support with loader's dri3 helper

Signed-off-by: Martin Peres 

This looks good to me.  I don't think anybody really cares about
SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED -- the buffer_age stuff was what you really
wanted all along.

Hey Eric and Martin,

It seems like KWin is relying on SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED for its EGL
backend. Should we add proper support for it in mesa or should we
propose a patch for kwin to test for the extension to be present before
using it?

Martin, what is your opinion on this since buffer age is what you need
and you already have support for it for the glx and wayland backends?

That's certainly a left over from before buffer age.  I don't know whether we
can remove it unconditionally. Not every GLES harware which does support X11
supports buffer age.

I assume the smartest thing to do is not ask for PRESERVED if buffer age is
supported.


Sounds good! Checking for the availability of both buffer age and 
preserved, preferring buffer age but not forcing behaviour preserved if 
buffer age is missing (only enable it if the extension exists).


Thanks for your quick answer Martin G.
Martin P.
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Re: [Mesa-dev] [PATCH] egl/x11/dri3: do not expose the preserved swap behavior (to be squashed)

2015-11-19 Thread Eric Anholt
Martin Graesslin  writes:

> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 1:54:22 PM CET Martin Peres wrote:
>> On 11/11/15 00:44, Eric Anholt wrote:
>> > Martin Peres  writes:
>> >> The preserved swap behavior is currently untested in piglit and not
>> >> supported on the GLX side. Before working on implementing it for
>> >> EGL/DRI3, let's disable it until support comes.
>> >> 
>> >> This patch is trivial enough and will likely be squashed in the commit
>> >> egl/x11: Implement dri3 support with loader's dri3 helper
>> >> 
>> >> Signed-off-by: Martin Peres 
>> > 
>> > This looks good to me.  I don't think anybody really cares about
>> > SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED -- the buffer_age stuff was what you really
>> > wanted all along.
>> 
>> Hey Eric and Martin,
>> 
>> It seems like KWin is relying on SWAP_BEHAVIOR_PRESERVED for its EGL
>> backend. Should we add proper support for it in mesa or should we
>> propose a patch for kwin to test for the extension to be present before
>> using it?
>> 
>> Martin, what is your opinion on this since buffer age is what you need
>> and you already have support for it for the glx and wayland backends?
>
> That's certainly a left over from before buffer age.  I don't know whether we 
> can remove it unconditionally. Not every GLES harware which does support X11 
> supports buffer age.
>
> I assume the smartest thing to do is not ask for PRESERVED if buffer age is 
> supported.

Yeah, you definitely want to not ask for PRESERVED if you can handle
buffer age, since PRESERVED means losing page flipping.  (Part of why
PRESERVED was a bad idea from day 1)


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