Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Brian Paul bri...@vmware.com wrote: Unless there's some objection I'm going to subscribe everyone to the new FD.O-based mesa-dev mailing list who's on the mesa3d-dev list. Probably in the next 24 hours. Then, some of you may have to log into the mailman interface (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev) to set digest mode, etc. I've sent the subscriber list to Jesse and he's sent it to Tollef. He can preserve the digest vs. regular state with the new list -Brian -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
Unless there's some objection I'm going to subscribe everyone to the new FD.O-based mesa-dev mailing list who's on the mesa3d-dev list. Probably in the next 24 hours. Then, some of you may have to log into the mailman interface (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev) to set digest mode, etc. -Brian -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Brian Paul bri...@vmware.com wrote: Unless there's some objection I'm going to subscribe everyone to the new FD.O-based mesa-dev mailing list who's on the mesa3d-dev list. Probably in the next 24 hours. Then, some of you may have to log into the mailman interface (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev) to set digest mode, etc. -Brian Are there plans to move dri-devel as well? Alex -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:38:03 -0400 Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Brian Paul bri...@vmware.com wrote: Unless there's some objection I'm going to subscribe everyone to the new FD.O-based mesa-dev mailing list who's on the mesa3d-dev list. Probably in the next 24 hours. Then, some of you may have to log into the mailman interface (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev) to set digest mode, etc. -Brian Are there plans to move dri-devel as well? Yeah, I'm just getting the info for that now. But I don't think we have subscriber lists, so everyone will have to re-subscribe to the new list. I'll send out a note to dri-devel when it's all set. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 16:37, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 18:38:03 -0400 Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Brian Paul bri...@vmware.com wrote: Unless there's some objection I'm going to subscribe everyone to the new FD.O-based mesa-dev mailing list who's on the mesa3d-dev list. Probably in the next 24 hours. Then, some of you may have to log into the mailman interface (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev) to set digest mode, etc. -Brian Are there plans to move dri-devel as well? Yeah, I'm just getting the info for that now. But I don't think we have subscriber lists, so everyone will have to re-subscribe to the new list. I'll send out a note to dri-devel when it's all set. You can get the subscriber list at: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel Stephane -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
Jesse Barnes wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:20:46 -0800 Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:16:45 +0100 Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:09 -0700, Brian Paul wrote: Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. Ditto for dri-devel. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? Not really, the lists should still have their own admins. I've been going through the moderation queues for both lists on a daily basis and am volunteering to continue doing so, but other than that I'm not really keen on being a list admin. I don't have access to create the new lists, but Daniel or Tollef should. We may as well keep you guys as admins unless someone volunteers that you're ok with; but hopefully FDO will make the admin job a little easier/faster. Brian and Michel, did you guys get what you need to move the lists? AFAIK Tollef created them, you just need to copy the subscriber lists over and announce it I think? Thanks, If you are going to move the lists, could someone remember to put them on gmane. At least some of us prefer the newsgroup format. sean -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:20:46 -0800 Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:16:45 +0100 Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:09 -0700, Brian Paul wrote: Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. Ditto for dri-devel. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? Not really, the lists should still have their own admins. I've been going through the moderation queues for both lists on a daily basis and am volunteering to continue doing so, but other than that I'm not really keen on being a list admin. I don't have access to create the new lists, but Daniel or Tollef should. We may as well keep you guys as admins unless someone volunteers that you're ok with; but hopefully FDO will make the admin job a little easier/faster. Brian and Michel, did you guys get what you need to move the lists? AFAIK Tollef created them, you just need to copy the subscriber lists over and announce it I think? Thanks, -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Just wanted to bring up the experince of moving linux-fbdev from sf.net to vger. The reason we did the move was because of the amount of spam we had to deal with. Now we have no spam. Of course the draw back is that the old list still exist which means the spam still comes in thus it has to be dealt with. Not too big of a deal. The real issue is people still join the old mailing list and try to post there. Perhaps their is a way to forward subscriptions or send a message to the subscriber to tell them where to really join? Then you have to send real mail to the new list. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center As a user and occasional poster to these lists, that sounds very good to me. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev It'd be nice to get rid of these silly advertisements too. Matt -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
Moving seems like a good idea. The delays here have been very troubling. -- Mike Stroyan - Software Architect LunarG, Inc. - The Graphics Experts Cell: (970) 219-7905 Email: m...@lunarg.com Website: http://www.lunarg.com -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? Yes please! The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list dri-de...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:37:23 -0800, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. sf.net's mail interface is made of fail. Here's to changing to something credible. pgpL7T6euiQWh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Eric Anholt e...@anholt.net wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:37:23 -0800, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. sf.net's mail interface is made of fail. Here's to changing to something credible. The funny thing about it is they're clearly using mailman, which has an archives interface, but they felt the need to implement some dog slow php forum-like interface over it. Why? -- Dan -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:55:29 -0800 Dan Nicholson dbn.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Eric Anholt e...@anholt.net wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:37:23 -0800, Jesse Barnes jbar...@virtuousgeek.org wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. sf.net's mail interface is made of fail. Here's to changing to something credible. The funny thing about it is they're clearly using mailman, which has an archives interface, but they felt the need to implement some dog slow php forum-like interface over it. Why? And their delivery is really slow too, which is quite annoying for active discussions. I guess Brian or Michel could get the current subscriber lists and transfer them over once we have the new lists. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? -Brian -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:09 -0700, Brian Paul wrote: Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. Ditto for dri-devel. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? Not really, the lists should still have their own admins. I've been going through the moderation queues for both lists on a daily basis and am volunteering to continue doing so, but other than that I'm not really keen on being a list admin. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer |http://www.vmware.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 15:09, Brian Paul bri...@vmware.com wrote: Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. Also I've been banned from posting to the lists at sf.net in the past because my smtp server was in their (wrong) RBLs. So I'm happy if the lists are moving away. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? No, you still have the mailman interface to handle all this. Stephane -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Move lists to freedesktop.org?
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:16:45 +0100 Michel Dänzer mic...@daenzer.net wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 16:09 -0700, Brian Paul wrote: Jesse Barnes wrote: Would anyone have objections if these lists moved to freedesktop.org? The recent thread with Linus about the drm pull request highlights the post lag and non-subscriber aspect of the current lists, and that leaves aside sf.net's horrible mail archive interface and poor performance. If spam is an issue, another option would be vger.kernel.org. That team runs lkml and several other very high traffic, high profile lists and manages quite well; performance is always high and spam is nearly non-existent given the amount of traffic. Jesse, can you set up the new lists? Or does someone else need to do that? I can send you (or whoever) the current subscriber lists. Ditto for dri-devel. BTW, I'm the current admin for the Mesa lists on SourceForge. I manually unsubscribe people who can't figure it out for themselves, allow posts from non-members (sometimes), etc. I'd gladly pass on that responsibility to someone else. Would that automatically become the job of the current fd.o admins? Not really, the lists should still have their own admins. I've been going through the moderation queues for both lists on a daily basis and am volunteering to continue doing so, but other than that I'm not really keen on being a list admin. I don't have access to create the new lists, but Daniel or Tollef should. We may as well keep you guys as admins unless someone volunteers that you're ok with; but hopefully FDO will make the admin job a little easier/faster. Thanks, -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Mesa3d-dev mailing list Mesa3d-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mesa3d-dev
