On 18 Mar 2014, at 01:50, Ong, Boon Leong boon.leong@intel.com wrote:
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From: Darren Hart [mailto:dvh...@linux.intel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:54 AM
To: Keskinarkaus, Teemu; Chris Tapp; Kamble, Nitin A
Cc: meta-intel@yoctoproject.org; Chang, Rebecca Swee Fun; Ong, Boon Leong
Subject: Re: [meta-intel] BSP retirements from meta-intel layer
On 3/13/14, 21:21, Keskinarkaus, Teemu
teemu.keskinark...@maximatecc.com wrote:
From: meta-intel-boun...@yoctoproject.org [mailto:meta-intel-
boun...@yoctoproject.org] On Behalf Of Chris Tapp
Following on from the chiefriver BSP retirement thread, what is the
general policy for BSP life-cycles within meta-intel?
For example, we committed to using the Cedartrail BSP a couple of
years back as if offered support for what was then a new platform
with a reasonable forward buy-time. However, support for that has
been dropped even though boards are still available using the chipset
(e.g. ASRock DN2800MT) and these are going to be available for a few
years yet.
From our point of view it is a pity not to be able to make use of the
improvements and enhancements that have gone into later Yocto
versions, especially as we're continually updating our software.
This interests me as well since we have been planning on using Yocto on
our HW for a long time. We also noticed the drop of Cedartrail BSP and
we ended up on porting it to newer Yocto ourselves which of course
wasn't what we were hoping to get when switching to Yocto.
As for chief river, sys940x, and n450 (which I haven't yet posted the
retirement
notification for), these systems are simply being supported by the
intel-common
BSPs (intel-core2-32 and intel-corei7-64). So support is not being dropped,
it is
being streamlined. The hardware is still supported.
While we would like to support every platform continually, we (I speak of the
core yocto team here, not as an Intel BSP maintainer) sometimes must decide
between adding a new platform or continuing to support an older platform. I
expect this to become less of an issues as the platforms become more open
over
time (as we are seeing with the graphics on the Baytrail SoCs for example).
As for more specific platforms such as cedar trail as mentioned here, that
must
be addressed the BSP maintainers. If folks are doing the forward ports
themselves, that is something the maintainers need to be aware of and take
into
consideration with their support plans. Please discuss this with them
(Rebecca
and Boon Leong added to Cc) - off list would be best as this becomes an
individual support issue between the customer and the Board/BSP vendor (Intel
ISG in this case).
In the case of Cedartrail, the last YP BSP is support is version 1.3 (danny).
There is
no plan for upgrade to newer YP version. If you have specific need, please
contact
your Intel sales rep/account and they should be able to bring your case for
internal
whether an upgrade plan is approved. Thanks and sorry for inconvenience
caused.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't have an Intel sales rep/account as we
are only a small player when it comes to hardware. We typically make 100 to 200
units a year, and, because this is low volume, we use COTS hardware like the
DN2800MT (formally Intel, now ASRock). I will get in touch with the UK sales
office and see what they suggest.
In general I can't imagine anyone expecting support for old hardware to
continue, but support was dropped with Dylan back in April 2013 even though the
silicon is still in production. This is really why I was hoping an official
position on support could be given, as small players (of which there are many
in the embedded sector) don't have the contacts with the silicon vendors which
means it can take a long, long time for important information to make it
through.
Though there is a bit of a heads-up as I've just seen that EOL was announced
back in November 2013 for the non-embedded version of the N2800 - just sent a
request to our board supplier to check which one they use...
Chris Tapp
opensou...@keylevel.com
www.keylevel.com
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