RE: RE: MetaCard based browser?

2000-08-10 Thread LORI FRAIND

SCORM stands for Sharable Couseware (or Content) Object Reference Model
This initiative, headed by the ADL Co-Laboratory in Orlando, has
far-reaching implications in how training is provided within the military in
the coming years.  SCORM aims to establish guidelines to:
Exploit existing network-based technologies
Create platform-neutral, reusable courseware and content
Promote widespread collaboration to satisfy common needs
Enhance performance with emerging and next-generation learning
technologies
Develop common framework that drives COTS product cycle
Establish a coordinated implementation plan.

Before I did the research to answer your question, I thought this was an
industry-wide attempt to set standards for developing computer-based
training and student tracking devices. I had not realized it was "merely" a
DoD initiative.

Hope this helps!

Lori C. Fraind
Delex Systems, Inc.
(703) 734-8300 x310


-Original Message-
From: David Bovill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:13 AM
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Subject: Re: RE: Metacard based browser?


What's a SCORM when you find one?

I found out today that in April 2001, the Department of Defense will be
issuing a directive that all future training development must be WBT and
SCORM compliant. I hope MetaCard will qualify as a Web-Based Training
mechanism. (It's my understanding that the SCORM part is the responsibility
of the developers). I'd say the DoD is a big enough market not to want to
address their needs

Lori C. Fraind
Delex Systems, Inc.
(703) 734-8300 x310


 -Original Message-
 From:Geoff Canyon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:35 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Metacard based browser?
 
 Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, on 8/4/00 6:14 PM:
 
 If your goal is to create a new standard for page description, then
maybe
 
 you have a reachable (and laudible) goal, but for current HTML, I would 
 suggest taking a step back and evaluating if you really have that kind
of
 
 time available.
 
 I agree. Limited compatibility with existing pages is fine, but if this 
 quixotic quest has any chance (let's face it--against Microsoft, a 
 snowball has a better chance in...) then the focus has to be on 
 downloadable stacks/scripts as "pages."
 
 I can see it now--little badges everywhere on the web saying "This site 
 best viewed in MetaCard!" This morning, www.warnerbros.com said I had to 
 have Netscape or Internet Explorer, _and_ Flash, in order to use their 
 site at _all_ What a thrill it would be to have some major site do a 
 slight twist on that, and tell me that I needed the free MetaCard viewer 
 to access their site...sorry, I was daydreaming for a moment there...
 
 gc, who still thinks this idea could be great fun...
 
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Re: Re: Metacard based browser - what's a 302?

2000-08-04 Thread David Bovill

A French car?

Scott Rossi wrote:

 My guess is, if you're looking to be able to parse the HTML from any
 existing Web page, you're in for a thousand and one headaches.

One word:  tables. 

Okay, two words:  nested tables.


The thought makes me shiver -:)

OK, here is the first problem:

  trying to get url "http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/"
 or then url "http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.best.com/"

Returns the following:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"
HTMLHEAD
TITLE302 Found/TITLE
/HEADBODY
H1Found/H1
The document has moved A 
HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.best.com/"here/A.P
/BODY/HTML

I am guessing that the built in Metacard "get url" method is not handling the 302 
code??? and that i have to use sockets? But then maybe it's a lot simpler, and I'm 
doing something stupid.

Please, can anyone save me from the RFC???

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Re: Re: Metacard based browser?

2000-08-04 Thread andu




I was thinking of using CSSP for layouts for users with later browsers, and designing 
style sheets that then work and look good for both the MetaCard environment and the 
average web user. Template based web authoring, with added ease of dynamic CGI 
scripting is what I think is worth aiming for in my life time -:)

Any comments?

In other words you want to be able to export a stack layout to style sheets. 
Since I had this idea myself I think it's a good one ;-). I just never had the 
patience to learn yet another thing (style sheets stuff) but if you are willing to do 
it go for it; its probably the closest we can come to using MC for web authoring and 
as you mention, dynamic generating of web pages.


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Re: Re: Metacard based browser -

2000-08-04 Thread andu



A French car?

Scott Rossi wrote:

 My guess is, if you're looking to be able to parse the HTML from any
 existing Web page, you're in for a thousand and one headaches.

One word:  tables. 

Okay, two words:  nested tables.


The thought makes me shiver -:)

OK, here is the first problem:

  trying to get url "http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/"
 or then url "http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.best.com/"

Returns the following:

!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"
HTMLHEAD
TITLE302 Found/TITLE
/HEADBODY
H1Found/H1
The document has moved A 
HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.best.com/"here/A.P
/BODY/HTML

I am guessing that the built in Metacard "get url" method is not handling the 302 
code??? and that i have to use sockets? But then maybe it's a lot simpler, and I'm 
doing something stupid.

Please, can anyone save me from the RFC???

There is no escape from RFCs :-0

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Re: Re: Re: Metacard based browser -

2000-08-04 Thread David Bovill


Please, can anyone save me from the RFC???

There is no escape from RFCs :-0


Aha, but there is. For now I can use an xThing. I've looked at the "Really Friendly C" 
stuff, and I have'nt got a word to say against them - just a bit long maybe. By the 
way where are they again?

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