Re: Memory usage
Shari a écrit : > > I'm trying to understand how Metacard's memory usage works, and it > seems to be defying my logic. (Being a girl, that's probably not > difficult ;-) Shari, Please, don't speak or think like that. There are no differences, betwin boys and girls, in the logical abilities scope. Don't listen for the ones that says or think otherwise ;-) -- snip -- Best Regards, Pierre Sahores WEB & VPN applications & databases servers Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Qualifier & produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Memory usage
At 8:38 AM -0800 4/5/2002, J. Landman Gay wrote: >MetaCard doesn't use memory the way most MacOS 9 apps do, it uses memory >the way other operating systems do -- that is, except for a few things, >it pulls RAM from the available pool in the system heap. This is how all >other OSs work (including OS X). (Actually, this is a normal way to do memory management in Mac OS. (Other operating systems don't do it exactly the same way - there is no fixed allocated area for the app in other OSs, generally speaking.) The technique of using MultiFinder memory goes back to, well, the beginning of MultiFinder, and it's fairly common to see it, especially in apps that by their nature have wildly varying memory requirements depending on exactly what the user does.) -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - The Solution for Software Development http://www.runrev.com/ ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: chat program behind a router
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 10:20 AM, Dar Scott wrote: > > On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 10:17 AM, Mark Talluto wrote: > >> Is my problem with settings on the routing software or with my chat >> program? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. > > > (It is sometimes easier to establish a dialog through a firewall with > TCP than with UDP. This is especially the case with with mc port > assignment limitations; the firewall might only allow a packet with > exactly the source & destination swapped from one that recently went > out.) > > Hope this helps. > > Dar Scott > Thanks Dar. I will probably have an option for the user to select peer to peer or use the server option if needed. The peer to peer is neat simply because it does not require a server, but may be the only option for internet users. The use of firewalls is becoming more and more prevalent. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Great day!
"J. Landman Gay" a écrit : > > Shari wrote: > > > Just wanted to take the time to say that I've really fallen in love > > with Metacard. The many features that take it way beyond > > Hypercard... and allow me to do things in a wondrous new way. > > I think that's pretty much the case with everyone who gives it a fair > shot. The same thing happened to me, and I can't imagine going back to > HyperCard now. But of course, if you say something like this on the HC > list, you'd get lynched. :) > Some years ago, i was running Hypercard 2.41 and Supercard 2.52 apps and cgi under MacOS 8.6 and i was waiting after HyperCard 3.0 and the next Rapshody DR issue... After Apple killed HC, alike Oracle killed Oracle Media Objects, i surfed the Web and found Metacard 2.25 from Scott Raney !!! Because Metacard is, before stuffs like SK8, Rexx, Java or RealBasic/Visual Basic, the very best (and fast-running) cross-platform development tool, i became able to produce Linux and Win32 apps and could wait without any stress up to have MacOSX available for work again on the Apple platform. The Metacard's limits are definitively out of imagination... Thank's again and again for doing it, Scott ;-) Kind Regards to all, Pierre Sahores WEB & VPN applications & databases servers Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis Qualifier & produire l'avantage compétitif ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Launching Acrobat twice
Mark, How are you launching Acrobat? You mentioned the registry, but can you post the code? Thanks, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Mark Luetzelschwab" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:25 AM Subject: Launching Acrobat twice > Hi Everyone, > > I have a need to launch multiple files in Acrobat 5 in Windows - at > the user's request. > > Launching the first one works great. (using the registry, etc. to get > the proper path etc.) > > Launching the second one either does nothing (XP) or crashes Acrobat (98). > > How is this supposed to be done? In other applications that I have > done in MC, I just killed off Acrobat (or word, or whatever) and > relaunched it. This is not an option in this project. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks. > > -ml > > > > -- > Mark J. Luetzelschwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Texas Center for (v) (512) 232 9477 *new* > Reading and Language Arts (f) (512) 232 2322 > http://www.texasreading.org > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Launching Acrobat twice
>I have a need to launch multiple files in Acrobat 5 in Windows - at >the user's request. > >Launching the first one works great. (using the registry, etc. to get >the proper path etc.) > >Launching the second one either does nothing (XP) or crashes Acrobat (98). > >How is this supposed to be done? In other applications that I have >done in MC, I just killed off Acrobat (or word, or whatever) and >relaunched it. This is not an option in this project. > >Any ideas? The EXT.dll handles this particular requirement for us, after fighting with 'launch' and getting nowhere. Available from http://www.runrev.com in the MetaCard section, I think. /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Consultant Programming & Software Solutions Fax/Voice: +44 (0)1483.27 87 27 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.flexibleLearning.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.338 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 14/03/2002
Re: chat program behind a router
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 10:17 AM, Mark Talluto wrote: > Is my problem with settings on the routing software or with my > chat program? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. My guess is that the router has some sort of firewall capability. This can cause problems in a couple ways. It might not allow TCP connections (or UDP packets) from the outside (though most make exceptions for FTP). Second, it might be set up for NAT, static or masquerade. Even if you are set up for masquerade, there may be a "server" option that forwards certain connection attempts to the router to a particular computer. If you can't change settings on the router, try creating a server stack that runs someplace outside the firewall. Have all chat clients TCP to that. If you need only point to point, have b TCP to a. (It is sometimes easier to establish a dialog through a firewall with TCP than with UDP. This is especially the case with with mc port assignment limitations; the firewall might only allow a packet with exactly the source & destination swapped from one that recently went out.) Hope this helps. Dar Scott ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
chat program behind a router
MC 2.4.2 b4 OS 10.1.3 on both systems I have been working on my chat program again to refresh my memory on how sockets work. BTW, anyone can have this stack if they want it. I comment pretty well so it should be understandable. It works great when everyone is on the same lan. It also works great if you are not behind a personal router over the net. Example: computer a He has his ip number from the isp. He his not behind a router but is directly connected to the cable modem. computer b He he is running ipnetrouter from sustworks.com. on a computer as his gateway. He is a client on that network. When we chat, computer b can send messages successfully to computer a, but computer a can not send messages back to computer b. Is my problem with settings on the routing software or with my chat program? Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Saving stacks
>The stack needs to be outside in its own file on disk, independent of >the main stack. All substacks are saved into the same file on disk, and >so saving any one of them effectively saves them all. Since it's all one >big file, the standalone considers the whole file -- substacks and all >-- to be part of itself. You just saved me hours of diddling... stayed up till 4:30 am in the final stages of testing, hoping to bring the project to Upload status. And the save issue foiled the plan. You've been nominated Dreamboat of the Day :-) Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Saving stacks
Hi Shari, > Working out the final bug in my program... saving. > > I know that the main stack cannot save to itself. I'm under the > impression that the other stacks can. > > I have a main stack, and several embedded stacks, saved into a > standalone. The embedded stack that needs to save to itself, isn't. > > Can an embedded stack in a standalone save to itself? Or does the > stack need to be OUTSIDE of the main stack... ie, not embedded? > > Shari C you cannot save stacks that are inside a standalone, not a mainstack and no substacks, sorry :-( So you must not embed the stack that you want to be saved. Just put that stack (separately) into the folder of the standalone and MC will find it anyway and you can save it :-) Hope this helps. If not, just drop another mail :-) Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Great day!
>I think that's pretty much the case with everyone who gives it a fair >shot. The same thing happened to me, and I can't imagine going back to >HyperCard now. But of course, if you say something like this on the HC >list, you'd get lynched. :) Oh I don't know about that... where do you think I heard about Metacard in the first place? The Hypercard list :-) Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Saving stacks
Shari wrote: > Can an embedded stack in a standalone save to itself? Or does the > stack need to be OUTSIDE of the main stack... ie, not embedded? The stack needs to be outside in its own file on disk, independent of the main stack. All substacks are saved into the same file on disk, and so saving any one of them effectively saves them all. Since it's all one big file, the standalone considers the whole file -- substacks and all -- to be part of itself. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Memory usage
Shari wrote: > I set the memory lower than I knew the stack normally used, and lo > and behold, the visual effects were fixed. > > Can someone explain this one logically? I am utterly baffled. MetaCard doesn't use memory the way most MacOS 9 apps do, it uses memory the way other operating systems do -- that is, except for a few things, it pulls RAM from the available pool in the system heap. This is how all other OSs work (including OS X). There is a way you can change one of MC's resources (the TMON resource, see the MC Read Me) so that MC acts like other Mac apps and stays in its own memory partition, but in general you don't want to mess with that because it is less efficient. Because MC pulls RAM from the common pool, setting its memory allocation to a high number reduces the available memory outside of the partition. If you reduce it by a large enough amount by assigning a huge partition to MC, the amount inside MC's partition will go mostly unused and there won't be enough outside the partition to accomodate what your scripts are trying to do. This is especially noticeable with QT, which needs a lot of system RAM to work well. Leaving the default allocation alone produces the best balance in general. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Great day!
Shari wrote: > Just wanted to take the time to say that I've really fallen in love > with Metacard. The many features that take it way beyond > Hypercard... and allow me to do things in a wondrous new way. I think that's pretty much the case with everyone who gives it a fair shot. The same thing happened to me, and I can't imagine going back to HyperCard now. But of course, if you say something like this on the HC list, you'd get lynched. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Launching Acrobat twice
Hi Everyone, I have a need to launch multiple files in Acrobat 5 in Windows - at the user's request. Launching the first one works great. (using the registry, etc. to get the proper path etc.) Launching the second one either does nothing (XP) or crashes Acrobat (98). How is this supposed to be done? In other applications that I have done in MC, I just killed off Acrobat (or word, or whatever) and relaunched it. This is not an option in this project. Any ideas? Thanks. -ml -- Mark J. Luetzelschwab [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Center for(v) (512) 232 9477 *new* Reading and Language Arts (f) (512) 232 2322 http://www.texasreading.org ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Great day!
Generally when all is going well, I'm quiet, and it's not until a problem arises that I post. Working in a new environment... learning a new language... creating a cross platform program for the first time... many problems have arisen ;-) Just wanted to take the time to say that I've really fallen in love with Metacard. The many features that take it way beyond Hypercard... and allow me to do things in a wondrous new way. Particularly, I am overjoyed with the ability to embed stacks within others. This opens up so many possibilities. And I want to thank all of you, for taking the time to answer my questions, and for being patient, as I'm sure those questions have been asked before. Today is a good day! Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Saving stacks
Working out the final bug in my program... saving. I know that the main stack cannot save to itself. I'm under the impression that the other stacks can. I have a main stack, and several embedded stacks, saved into a standalone. The embedded stack that needs to save to itself, isn't. Can an embedded stack in a standalone save to itself? Or does the stack need to be OUTSIDE of the main stack... ie, not embedded? Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Memory usage
I'm trying to understand how Metacard's memory usage works, and it seems to be defying my logic. (Being a girl, that's probably not difficult ;-) My visual effects were buggy, sometimes they worked and sometimes not, and I tried everything to fix them. Reinstalled Quicktime several times, reinstalled Metacard, tried setting the bufferHiddenImages to true, and false, with every combination of destroy window, don't destroy window, dontUseQT to true, and false, etc. Tried everything. I set the memory in the Get Info window (Mac) as high as my computer would allow. To no avail. So I tried something totally illogical... I set the memory lower than I knew the stack normally used, and lo and behold, the visual effects were fixed. Can someone explain this one logically? I am utterly baffled. -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
