RE: Metacard beginner question
--On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 22:42:52 +0100 Mr X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just upgrade to netscape 7 or downgrade to explorer ;)) works fine with both... That's what I call good web design, glad somebody keeps the tradition alive! Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
on 12/4/02 12:03 PM, jbv at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Ray, > >> Suggestion: Think along the lines of an array instead of straight >> variables. >> > > Yes, it crossed my mind... > But the question is : how can I sort rows of an array using > the sort command ? > > Thanks, > JB > > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > JB, I've read Jackie's suggestion and I think that's your best bet. Ray Horsley Developer, LinkIt! Software ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
register QuickTime media key from inside MC
Is there any way to register a QuickTime media key (for encrypted QuickTime content, eg compressed with Sorenson Pro 3) from a Metacard script? Rodney ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: XS Script Editor 1.1.3 Release
I meant that your installer should check whether the expected (supported) version of MC is used and simply refuse to install if wrong version. Otherwise, incidental damage is possible. Robert You just can't stop progress can't you! ;)) Sorry but backward compatibility is not a feature I fix scripting! Well, sort of I could... I'll see what can be done about that... Dont hold you breath... (IOW, it'll take less time to upgrade your MC engines!) cheers Xavier ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Metacard beginner question
On 12/4/02 3:42 PM, Mr X wrote: just upgrade to netscape 7 or downgrade to explorer ;)) I get the same blue screen with Mozilla 1.2.1 -- which is similar to netscape 7. People are not likely to download your stack if they have to download and install a new browser to do it. Like me, they will just skip it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard positioning of objects when window resizes
> For example, you can specify that the topleft of a field should stay the > same At least, on can set the lockloc property of the filed to true... -- Regards, (-8 Dominique ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Metacard beginner question
just upgrade to netscape 7 or downgrade to explorer ;)) works fine with both... dont forget to upgrade metacard to 2.4.3 as well! cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ray G. Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Metacard beginner question :[EMAIL PROTECTED] said, > > last but not least, my website has a few hypercard and MC stacks for your > enjoyment! > http://monsieurx.com Sorry, but this site just load a dark blue screen and stops Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: XS Script Editor 1.1.3 Release
You just can't stop progress can't you! ;)) Sorry but backward compatibility is not a feature I fix scripting! Well, sort of I could... I'll see what can be done about that... Dont hold you breath... (IOW, it'll take less time to upgrade your MC engines!) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Brenstein Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XS Script Editor 1.1.3 Release >Hi all, > >New release of my Script editor 1.1.3 is released. > You may want to add mc version checking to your installer. I just tried to install in mc 2.4.1 and it happily started doing so only to report some errors from uninstaller. I gather it works only with 2.4.3. Robert ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Yet another bad bug
not bad! I didn't think of that one... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Yet another bad bug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone know of an easy way to determine if a stack was modified without > taking inventory of everything? You could run the stack file through the md5digest function to get a unique value for the stack. But then there's the question of where you store the value. For my own apps I trap all messages that will affect data and set a uDirty custom prop on the stack. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: launching on Wintel/inter-process communication
You can use DDE from the old externals collection to handle this. And as far as I know Scott is planning a DDE implementation one day ;-) ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Yet another bad bug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone know of an easy way to determine if a stack was modified without > taking inventory of everything? You could run the stack file through the md5digest function to get a unique value for the stack. But then there's the question of where you store the value. For my own apps I trap all messages that will affect data and set a uDirty custom prop on the stack. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
On 12/4/02 12:26 PM, jbv wrote: But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? On second thought, this is probably faster and cleaner: local theCount,theOldOrder on dosort put fld 1 into theData put line 1 of theData into theOldOrder -- key line put theOldOrder into theNewOrder sort items of theNewOrder ascending numeric put theNewOrder & return into theNewData delete line 1 of theData repeat for each line l in theData put 0 into theCount sort items of l by mySort(each) put l & return after theNewData end repeat put theNewData into fld 2 end dosort function mySort add 1 to theCount return item theCount of theOldOrder end mySort -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
On 12/4/02 12:26 PM, jbv wrote: But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? For instance : line 1 :b,d,c,a line 2 :2,4,3,1 after sorting line 2, the content would become : line 1 :a,b,c,d line 2 :1,2,3,4 I have the feeling this can't be done in MC, while I remember doing it in OMO using the spreadsheet control... You can do pretty much anything in MC. In this case, you can use a custom function to sort the data. P.S. I need to do it FAST on large variables, therefore a repeat loop won't do. The following works for me with very short lists. It does have a repeat loop in it, so you'd have to see if it is fast enough for your needs. It could probably be optimized better. local theOldOrder,theNewOrder on dosort put fld 1 into theData put line 1 of theData into theOldOrder -- or whatever is the key line put theOldOrder into theNewOrder sort items of theNewOrder ascending numeric put theNewOrder & return into theNewData delete line 1 of theData repeat for each line l in theData sort items of l by mySort(each,l,theOldOrder,theNewOrder) put l & return after theNewData end repeat put theNewData into fld 2 end dosort function mySort theItem,theLine set wholematches to true put itemoffset(theItem,theLine) into theItemNum put item theItemNum of theOldOrder into theOriginalItem put itemoffset(theOriginalItem,theNewOrder) into theNewPos return theNewPos end mySort -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Metacard beginner question
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said, > > last but not least, my website has a few hypercard and MC stacks for your > enjoyment! > http://monsieurx.com Sorry, but this site just load a dark blue screen and stops Ray G. Miller --- Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
--On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 18:26:32 + jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everybody, Sorting a variable made of various lines with several items in each line with the sort command is easy : sort lines of Myvariable by item 2 of each But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? For instance : line 1 :b,d,c,a line 2 :2,4,3,1 after sorting line 2, the content would become : line 1 :a,b,c,d line 2 :1,2,3,4 I have the feeling this can't be done in MC, while I remember doing it in OMO using the spreadsheet control... Thanks for any suggestion. JB P.S. I need to do it FAST on large variables, therefore a repeat loop won't do. I don't think you can do it without at least one repeat since we don't have the concept of columns in MC. This sounds good as a feature request - columns, columnDelimiter. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
Ray, > Suggestion: Think along the lines of an array instead of straight > variables. > Yes, it crossed my mind... But the question is : how can I sort rows of an array using the sort command ? Thanks, JB ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
--On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 18:34:53 +0200 Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Words of Andu compliment not criticism!! Good wine takes long time. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. Sure, like almost everything else but I guess, if he needed a sales pitch he would've been satisfied with "user testimonials" from your web site. *> Has anyone on the list had experience using this product with Metacard? *> Would be interested in your comments, either privately or to the list. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Dumb sort question
on 12/4/02 10:26 AM, jbv at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Sorting a variable made of various lines with several items > in each line with the sort command is easy : > > sort lines of Myvariable by item 2 of each > > > But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several > hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of > line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) > items of other lines being moved according to the new > position of each item of line 4 ? > > For instance : > line 1 :b,d,c,a > line 2 :2,4,3,1 > > after sorting line 2, the content would become : > line 1 :a,b,c,d > line 2 :1,2,3,4 > > I have the feeling this can't be done in MC, while I remember > doing it in OMO using the spreadsheet control... > > Thanks for any suggestion. > JB > > P.S. I need to do it FAST on large variables, therefore a repeat > loop won't do. > > > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > Suggestion: Think along the lines of an array instead of straight variables. Ray Horsley Developer, LinkIt! Software ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: XS Script Editor 1.1.3 Release
Hi all, New release of my Script editor 1.1.3 is released. You may want to add mc version checking to your installer. I just tried to install in mc 2.4.1 and it happily started doing so only to report some errors from uninstaller. I gather it works only with 2.4.3. Robert ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: metacard positioning of objects when window resizes
At present (correct me if I'm wrong) you would need to calculate and adjust the size/position of objects using code, and then apply. Rodney Revolution has Geometry Manager which does sort of what you describe for Interface Builder. Robert ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Dumb sort question
Hi everybody, Sorting a variable made of various lines with several items in each line with the sort command is easy : sort lines of Myvariable by item 2 of each But how can I sort a variable featuring 4 lines with several hundreds of items in each, so that (for instance) items of line 4 are sorted numeric ascending, and (that's important) items of other lines being moved according to the new position of each item of line 4 ? For instance : line 1 :b,d,c,a line 2 :2,4,3,1 after sorting line 2, the content would become : line 1 :a,b,c,d line 2 :1,2,3,4 I have the feeling this can't be done in MC, while I remember doing it in OMO using the spreadsheet control... Thanks for any suggestion. JB P.S. I need to do it FAST on large variables, therefore a repeat loop won't do. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. Let me chime in that there are two different aspects of using valentina, each with its own level of complexity and learning curve. 1. Using valentina as a database engine in metacard -- quite easy and not much to learn 2. designing and maintaining databases, particularly when taking full advantage of relational features -- that can be easy or a can of warms depending on your background and experience. But many issues here have little to do with Valentina per se. Robert Brenstein (who is on both MC and valentina lists) ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve > is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. -- Forwarded Message > From: Lars Lindholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:30:58 +0100 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Valentina in a Cocoa application? > > Hi, > > I am a developer that have recently started using Valentina for a larger > project involving several applications built both in RealBasic and Director. > All the applications now use the same Valentina database. After having used > Valentina for a few weeks I'm very impressed with the simplicity and the > speed! -- End of Forwarded Message -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Metacard beginner question
you can search http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/ http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/cgi-bin/NewSearch?key=hypercard search for stack also... last but not least, my website has a few hypercard and MC stacks for your enjoyment! http://monsieurx.com > -Original Message- > From: JDMST [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 03 December 2002 23:28 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: emuseum > Subject: Metacard beginner question > > > Hello everyone, > I'm wondering if there are stacks available for download that > I can use to examine and to > get ideas from... ie.. learn how they all work? Does this make sense? > > Thanks, > John > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Metacard beginner question
From my 'limited' understanding (correct me or slap me), most of the MC programmers seem to be on UNIX/Linux/PC platforms and have been using it for awhile -- heavy duty coders;-). MC seems to have a more robust (doesn't crash) IDE, but without as many features. A lot of Mac users and newbies prefer the more feature rich (and sometimes complicated?) IDE of RunRev. Slap slap slap! :-) I chose MC and I'm on a Mac. My understanding is that you can *do* the same things with MC or Rev. You can build the same programs. Rev has added features to the programming environment, but the basic functionality is the same for both. You could just as easily roll your own in MC, if you choose. At the time I made my choice, a year ago, MC was more stable. I had too many crashes in Rev where I lost my code and had to rewrite it. I've had crashes in MC, but I don't think I've ever lost the code. That made the choice for me. As for features in the IDE, if I can do what I want to do, the features don't really matter. The one thing that Rev does do better, is the help docs. That is my biggest gripe with MC. I am used to much more detailed help docs, Hypertalk 2.2 being my programming bible for so many years. So we have the list (all of you :-) and the archives and a few websites with some good info. But then, you didn't say *all*, you did say *most*... :-) Shari C -- --Shareware Games for the Mac-- http://www.gypsyware.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Yet another bad bug
just put the following scripts in your home stack script and voila... on CloseStack CompactStack AutoSave pass CloseStack end CloseStack on CompactStack astack if astack is empty then compact this stack else compact stack astack end CompactStack on AutoSave -- if the hilite of btn "autosave" of stack "home" and the shiftkey is up then if the mode of the topstack is 1 then save the topstack -- end if end AutoSave If you are used to HyperCard this puts you back into those warm waters... Anyone know of an easy way to determine if a stack was modified without taking inventory of everything? > -Original Message- > From: Axel Buchner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 04 December 2002 14:49 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Yet another bad bug > > > Has anyone note this: > > Under Mac OS X 10.2.2: > > Scenario 1: > > (1) Work on a stack (e.g. add buttons and text fields) > (2) Quit MetaCard > > MetaCard will quit without asking whether changes should be saved! > > Scenario 2: > > (1) Work on a stack (e.g. add buttons and text fields) > (2) Save the stack > (3) While the "Save" dialog is visible, hit command-q > > MetaCard will quit instantaneously without having saved anything! > > Am I the only one suffering from these fundamental problems? > > If I am not, then how can you guys live with this? > > Are these problems exclusive to Mac OS X 10.2.2? > > These are very elementary bugs. In the next release they must > have gone! > > Axel > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Yet another bad bug
Has anyone note this: Under Mac OS X 10.2.2: Scenario 1: (1) Work on a stack (e.g. add buttons and text fields) (2) Quit MetaCard MetaCard will quit without asking whether changes should be saved! Scenario 2: (1) Work on a stack (e.g. add buttons and text fields) (2) Save the stack (3) While the "Save" dialog is visible, hit command-q MetaCard will quit instantaneously without having saved anything! Am I the only one suffering from these fundamental problems? If I am not, then how can you guys live with this? Are these problems exclusive to Mac OS X 10.2.2? These are very elementary bugs. In the next release they must have gone! Axel ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
