Hide menubar on Mac?

[RCS]

Is there a way to hide the menubar on the Mac in OSX? I use the 'Bartender'
Control Panel for OS9 (it is a little flaky though).

Why doesn't MetaCard hide the menubar on the Mac? It works great on
Windows...

Thanks,
JR

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Hide menubar on Mac - never mind!

[RCS]

I did a 'Google' search and found a MetaCard digest at
'theFAQchest.com'...it seems that you have to manually do it for the Mac.

It works though...that's all that matters!

JR

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Subject: Hide menubar on Mac?


> Is there a way to hide the menubar on the Mac in OSX? I use the
'Bartender'
> Control Panel for OS9 (it is a little flaky though).
>
> Why doesn't MetaCard hide the menubar on the Mac? It works great on
> Windows...
>
> Thanks,
> JR
>

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No luck with trapping QUIT in OSX

[Shari]

Putting the appleEvent handler in the frontScript didn't work.  I 
tried putting that appleEvent handler EVERYWHERE, to no avail.  It 
didn't work in the frontScript, the main stack script, the embedded 
(operating) stack script.  I'm guessing that the frontScript gets 
deleted before the message gets to it.

I tried trapping the closeStack and shutDown messages, to run my 
doQuit handler.  It works perfectly in Classic, as it runs thru the 
menuPick handler and is trapped there, but that blasted menu change 
the OSX makes, breaks it.  Seems to bypass every handler I've got.

I ran a test, to see if the shutDown and closeStack messages are 
called during this quit, and they are.  But the doQuit handler is 
not.  I tried inserting "send doQuit to cd fld 1 of cd 1 of stack 
sideStack" into the closeStack handler, and it did not run.  I am 
guessing that the global sideStack is deleted immediately during the 
quit sequence in OSX?  There are several handlers that are set to run 
at quit, to save a lot of data first.

Such a simple thing... to save your data before quitting.  Why does 
OSX make it so difficult??

(Because they are trying to copy WINDOZE)

:-)

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RE: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Chipp Walters]

Richard,


This will make a file invisible from Windows...

if the platform is "Win32" then
   put the filename of the topstack into tfile
   replace "/" with "\" in tfile
   put "attrib"&& quote & tfile & quote && "-h" into DosCommand
   set the hideConsoleWindows to true
   put shell (DosCommand) into theError
end if

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin
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> Subject: [OT] invisible files on Windows
> 
> 
> I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a file
> invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a 
> cross-platform CD.
> 
> Thanks in advance -
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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[andu]

--On Friday, January 10, 2003 11:16:22 -0800 Richard Gaskin 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?  It
doesn't have to be capable of stopping an experienced hacker type, just
enough to make it at least inconvenient or unobvious for the average user.


I'd say you either sell the cds (and QT media on it) or if you give them 
away freely don't worry about it.



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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Richard Gaskin]

Dar Scott wrote:

> 
> On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 12:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> 
>> Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?
> 
> Store them as properties in an installer-like app that puts them on the
> "user's system" as needed?

Being video files they're pretty big.  That would be a good idea for smaller
media, though.

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Re: invisible files on Windows

[miscdas]

[snip]
Richard Gaskin writes:

Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?  It doesn't have to be capable of stopping an experienced hacker type, just enough to make it at least inconvenient or unobvious for the average user.
 
 Richard Gaskin 

If your app can launch the file based on referencing the complete name, then 
use some non-obvious naming convention. 

For example,
xxx1.rgf
xx24.rgf 

The average user will search the CD for QT files, not RGF files. 

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Dar Scott]

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 12:16 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?


Store them as properties in an installer-like app that puts them on the 
"user's system" as needed?

Dar Scott

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Ken Ray]

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows


> Scott Rossi wrote:
>
> > Recently, "Richard Gaskin"  wrote:
> >
> >> I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a
file
> >> invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a
cross-platform CD.
> >
> > INVISIBLE FILES?  YOU?  Mr. "I never hide files from the user" Gaskin???
> >
> > (just kidding :-)
>
> Only on a CD; never on the user's system (at least not in my office).
>
> > I am not a Windows expert, nor do I play one on TV.  That being said, I
> > think you will run into a problem with simply making the file invisible
due
> > to the "Do not show hidden files" preference under the Folder Options
menu.
>
> That seems to be the case.
>
> Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?  It
doesn't
> have to be capable of stopping an experienced hacker type, just enough to
> make it at least inconvenient or unobvious for the average user.
>
> --
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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Ken Ray]

Sorry about that... (darn emailer!)

Anyway, I was going to suggest that depending on the size of the movie, you
could keep it compressed on the CD with a different file extension and
decompress it to play it. This way, although it might be accessible, (a) it
doesn't look like anything anyone would want, and (b) even if they did
"copy" it, the wouldn't know what to do with it (unless they're a real
expert and can look at the first bytes of the file to determine it's a .gz
file).

Just my $.02,

Ken Ray
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows


> Scott Rossi wrote:
>
> > Recently, "Richard Gaskin"  wrote:
> >
> >> I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a
file
> >> invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a
cross-platform CD.
> >
> > INVISIBLE FILES?  YOU?  Mr. "I never hide files from the user" Gaskin???
> >
> > (just kidding :-)
>
> Only on a CD; never on the user's system (at least not in my office).
>
> > I am not a Windows expert, nor do I play one on TV.  That being said, I
> > think you will run into a problem with simply making the file invisible
due
> > to the "Do not show hidden files" preference under the Folder Options
menu.
>
> That seems to be the case.
>
> Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?  It
doesn't
> have to be capable of stopping an experienced hacker type, just enough to
> make it at least inconvenient or unobvious for the average user.
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
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Re: invisible files on Windows

[miscdas]

{snip]
Richard Gaskin writes: 


1. How does a Win user show the file by right-clicking on it if it's
invisible?
 Richard Gaskin 

Richard,
Think about the Karl's reply and your query, then maybe you'll choose to 
retract your reply. 

To display files that are hidden is no problemo:
1. Launch windows Explorer
2. From the Tools menu, select folder Options
The Folders Options dialog is displayed.
3. Select the View tab.
4. Under the Advanced Settings panel, select files and Folders.
5. From the displayed options, select Hidden files and folders.
6. From the displayed options, select Show hidden files and folders.
7. Click OK to invoke your selctions and the dialog closes. 

Hidden files will now be displayed in the files listings. 

miscdas 

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Richard Gaskin]

Scott Rossi wrote:

> Recently, "Richard Gaskin"  wrote:
> 
>> I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a file
>> invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a cross-platform CD.
> 
> INVISIBLE FILES?  YOU?  Mr. "I never hide files from the user" Gaskin???
> 
> (just kidding :-)

Only on a CD; never on the user's system (at least not in my office).

> I am not a Windows expert, nor do I play one on TV.  That being said, I
> think you will run into a problem with simply making the file invisible due
> to the "Do not show hidden files" preference under the Folder Options menu.

That seems to be the case.

Any other tips for preventing the copying of QT media from a CD?  It doesn't
have to be capable of stopping an experienced hacker type, just enough to
make it at least inconvenient or unobvious for the average user.

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, "Richard Gaskin"  wrote:

> I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a file
> invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a cross-platform CD.

INVISIBLE FILES?  YOU?  Mr. "I never hide files from the user" Gaskin???

(just kidding :-)

I am not a Windows expert, nor do I play one on TV.  That being said, I
think you will run into a problem with simply making the file invisible due
to the "Do not show hidden files" preference under the Folder Options menu.

I did come across one article that says you can try renaming the *parent
folder* of the file via a DOS prompt: "rename dir alt+255dir". This same
article also claims that Windows already sports a number of difficult to
access directories that cannot be accessed through Windows, only DOS.  The
author recommends going here for more tips:

  http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

Gotta love that URL...

Sorry not much more help.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
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Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Klaus Major]

Hi Richard,


Karl Becker wrote:


Right click on a file, select "Properties", check the box "Hidden."
However, Windows users can choose to have hidden files shown quite
easily, unlike the Mac where hidden files aren't even known to many
people.


1. How does a Win user show the file by right-clicking on it if it's
invisible?


Hardly ;-)

In an open window on windows :-) there is a menu:

View-> Folder options-> Tab "View"

There you can choose with radio-buttons (among other funny stuff) to
1. Show all files
2. Hide hidden files  (sic !!! )
(I am just translating the german version of VirtualPC, so it might not 
be THAT
funny in the original english version ;-)
3. Hide hidden and system files

2. Is there a way to set this visible bit on a Mac when burning an 
ISO-9660
CD?

Sorry, no idea.


 Richard Gaskin


Regards from icecold germany (-12 degree Celsius, brr...)

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Richard Gaskin]

Karl Becker wrote:

> Right click on a file, select "Properties", check the box "Hidden."
> However, Windows users can choose to have hidden files shown quite
> easily, unlike the Mac where hidden files aren't even known to many
> people.

1. How does a Win user show the file by right-clicking on it if it's
invisible?

2. Is there a way to set this visible bit on a Mac when burning an ISO-9660
CD?

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Re: [OT] invisible files on Windows

[Karl Becker]

Right click on a file, select "Properties", check the box "Hidden."
However, Windows users can choose to have hidden files shown quite 
easily, unlike the Mac where hidden files aren't even known to many 
people.

Karl

On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a 
file
invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a 
cross-platform CD.

Thanks in advance -

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[OT] invisible files on Windows

[Richard Gaskin]

I can turn a file invisible on Mac OS and OS X, but how do I make a file
invisible on Windows?  I need to be able to do this for a cross-platform CD.

Thanks in advance -

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Re: OSX application menu

[Shari]

This is in response to Shari's question quoted below.  Since I read the
list in digest form, and thus with some delay, perhaps this question will
have already been addressed, but here goes anyway.

Shari, you and I have been dealing with OS X problems at about the same
time as we make the transition to this new environment.  I was working on
this problem a few weeks ago, and got it solved, with the offlist help of
Jacqueline Landman Gay, who has been a consultant on my project.



John,

THANK YOU for replying!  No the question has not been answered yet. 
My project does have a frontscript that I can insert this into.  I 
will try it today.

I'm still working my mind around the fact that OSX is a distinct, new 
OS, just as Windows is to the standard Mac user.  It is hard to 
*remember* that it is not the same, and must be treated differently 
than we always have before.

While OSX has some neat new additions, it seems they have removed 
some of the functionality I am accustomed to.  *sigh*

And they need better help docs!  :-)  I spent hours trying to figure 
out how to make the Contents show up where I could edit it.  Finally 
had to go online and search the Apple site.  Nowhere in the help docs 
did it give any info.  Maybe it is visible in the original OSX, but 
Jaguar hides it nicely, until you bring up the menu with the Control 
key to show the Contents.


Shari C



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Re: Off topics : JazzValley

[Pierre Sahores]

Vikram Singh a écrit :
> 
> Xavier
> 
> I think you can view more than one streams in a stack. I did view both the
> files below some days back in the same card, on different players.
> http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/rollingstone/rtsp/justin_ref.mov
> http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/zomba/bboys/drowning_ref.mov
> 
> In Quicktime Preferences>Quicktime Settings>Connection Speed there is a
> checkbox for playing movies simultaneously.
> 
> Since QT 6 supports MP4 (and Real does too) I for one hope it wont be long
> before it becomes the standard.
> 
> Hopefully you wont have to wait for 3.0!
> 
> Regards
> Vikram
> 
> PS There was a tip from Scott a year back that I found useful. If the
> duration of a player is 0, that means that the source file is not valid
> (this applies to http source too). You could then set the path back to the
> original one or to "".
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > Pierre,
> >
> > That's if your stream is qt in nature.
> > You still can't view two movies at the same time,
> > and there's no support for *.wmf or *.rm streaming...
> >
> > I dont think it is worth trying... maybe in MC 3.0...
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 10 January 2003 11:11
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > yes but how?
> > > > It's a streaming thing so it's likely to make MC unusable while you
> > > > listen...
> > >
> > > I'm not a specialist but if it's a way to stream QuickTime sequences
> > > from within MC, it will be possible to build a library to stream audio
> > > sequences too.
> > >
> > > > there's no threads in MC... ;((
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > Xavier
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 10 January 2003 09:33
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> > > > > > http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> > > > > > click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...
> > > > >
> > > > > Cool !
> > > > >
> > > > > > It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))
> > > > >
> > > > > It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
> > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without
> > > > > listening for some
> > > > > > > swinging music, just have an eye to
> > > > >  ;-)
> > > > > > > --

--snip--

... If we can think it, metacard will let us do it ! and i add : for
sure (not "far", ok Xavier ?) :))

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Re: Off topics : JazzValley

[Vikram Singh]

Xavier

I think you can view more than one streams in a stack. I did view both the
files below some days back in the same card, on different players.
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/rollingstone/rtsp/justin_ref.mov
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/zomba/bboys/drowning_ref.mov

In Quicktime Preferences>Quicktime Settings>Connection Speed there is a
checkbox for playing movies simultaneously.

Since QT 6 supports MP4 (and Real does too) I for one hope it wont be long
before it becomes the standard.

Hopefully you wont have to wait for 3.0!

Regards
Vikram

PS There was a tip from Scott a year back that I found useful. If the
duration of a player is 0, that means that the source file is not valid
(this applies to http source too). You could then set the path back to the
original one or to "".

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Pierre,
>
> That's if your stream is qt in nature.
> You still can't view two movies at the same time,
> and there's no support for *.wmf or *.rm streaming...
>
> I dont think it is worth trying... maybe in MC 3.0...
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 10 January 2003 11:11
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > >
> > > yes but how?
> > > It's a streaming thing so it's likely to make MC unusable while you
> > > listen...
> >
> > I'm not a specialist but if it's a way to stream QuickTime sequences
> > from within MC, it will be possible to build a library to stream audio
> > sequences too.
> >
> > > there's no threads in MC... ;((
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Xavier
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 10 January 2003 09:33
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> > > > > http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> > > > > click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...
> > > >
> > > > Cool !
> > > >
> > > > > It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))
> > > >
> > > > It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
> > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without
> > > > listening for some
> > > > > > swinging music, just have an eye to
> > > >  ;-)
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Cordialement, Pierre Sahores
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Inspection académique de Seine-Saint-Denis.
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Re: OSX application menu

[John Kiltinen]

This is in response to Shari's question quoted below.  Since I read the
list in digest form, and thus with some delay, perhaps this question will
have already been addressed, but here goes anyway.

Shari, you and I have been dealing with OS X problems at about the same
time as we make the transition to this new environment.  I was working on
this problem a few weeks ago, and got it solved, with the offlist help of
Jacqueline Landman Gay, who has been a consultant on my project.

I found that the script that you give here (which I got off of this list in
a helpful post from Mark Luetzelschwab) WILL catch the appleEvent messages
if it is a frontScript.  To get it as a frontScript, put it as a script in
some object, such as a hidden button "frontScriptDummy".  Then in the
message box, enter the command
   insert the script of button "frontScriptDummy" into front

This has worked for me, even while my project was under development, but
Jacqueline says that it is not necessary for this script to be in front
once you build a standalone.  She wrote (a bit edited here for generality):

>Once your main stack is built into an application, all messages go
>through it just like they go through the Home stack in development mode.
>(snip) During
>development, of course, your main stack is not an application and so the
>message path goes through MetaCard's Home stack instead. You could add a
>line of script if you want, just for development, that tests to see if
>the environment is "development" and if so, start using the script of
>the main stack. Once the stack is compiled into an app, the stack script
>will be put into use automatically.

John Kiltinen

Shari wrote:
>Now that I have OSX installed :-)
>
>I've got everything working as desired except for one thing...
>
>I can't seem to trap the "quit" message.
>
>I have a doQuit handler to save data and so forth before quitting.
>But once OSX moved my Quit menuItem to the application menu, nothing
>I've coded will catch it.
>
>It bypasses the menuPick handlers.
>
>I've tried putting the following appleEvent handler into the card,
>and the stack, to no avail.  It bypasses this as well, and just quits.
>
>on appleEvent sClass,sID,sSender
>if sID = "quit" then
>   doQuit
>   pass appleEvent
>end if
>end appleEvent
>
>I tried sticking a "beep" in there or "answer xyz" to test whether it
>even traps the message.  It doesn't.
>
>How do I trap that message, and perform my doQuit operation?
>
>Thanks all.
>
>Shari C



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RE: Off topics : JazzValley

[xbury . cs]

Pierre,

That's if your stream is qt in nature.
You still can't view two movies at the same time, 
and there's no support for *.wmf or *.rm streaming...

I dont think it is worth trying... maybe in MC 3.0...


> -Original Message-
> From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 January 2003 11:11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > 
> > yes but how?
> > It's a streaming thing so it's likely to make MC unusable while you
> > listen...
> 
> I'm not a specialist but if it's a way to stream QuickTime sequences
> from within MC, it will be possible to build a library to stream audio
> sequences too.
> 
> > there's no threads in MC... ;((
> > 
> > TIA
> > Xavier
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 10 January 2003 09:33
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> > > > http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> > > > click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...
> > >
> > > Cool !
> > >
> > > > It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))
> > >
> > > It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
> > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without
> > > listening for some
> > > > > swinging music, just have an eye to
> > >  ;-)
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cordialement, Pierre Sahores
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MetaCard/Revolution help required

[Peter McConachie]

Hello

I am trying to find MetaCard/Revolution users who may be interested in
helping me in developing a MetaCard/Valentina application.

Our office is located in Brisbane, Australia. We would prefer someone in
South East Queensland.

With thanks,
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Re: Off topics : JazzValley

[Pierre Sahores]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> 
> yes but how?
> It's a streaming thing so it's likely to make MC unusable while you
> listen...

I'm not a specialist but if it's a way to stream QuickTime sequences
from within MC, it will be possible to build a library to stream audio
sequences too.

> there's no threads in MC... ;((
> 
> TIA
> Xavier
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 10 January 2003 09:33
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > >
> > > you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> > > http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> > > click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...
> >
> > Cool !
> >
> > > It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))
> >
> > It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
> >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without
> > listening for some
> > > > swinging music, just have an eye to
> >  ;-)
> > > > --
> > > > Cordialement, Pierre Sahores
> > > >
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RE: Off topics : JazzValley

[xbury . cs]

yes but how?
It's a streaming thing so it's likely to make MC unusable while you
listen...
there's no threads in MC... ;((

TIA
Xavier

> -Original Message-
> From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 10 January 2003 09:33
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Off topics : JazzValley
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> > 
> > you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> > http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> > click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...
> 
> Cool !
> 
> > It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))
> 
> It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
>  
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Pierre Sahores [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> > >
> > >
> > > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without 
> listening for some
> > > swinging music, just have an eye to 
>  ;-)
> > > --
> > > Cordialement, Pierre Sahores
> > >
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Re: Off topics : JazzValley

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
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> you can also try this great jazz station from Lyon...
> http://www.frequencejazz.com/
> click on "Ecoutez"... and then on Lire on the pop up...

Cool !

> It would be nice if this could work from a stack ;))

It's far sure doable under win32, macos and linuxx86 ;))
 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: 09 January 2003 21:09
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> > Subject: Off topics : JazzValley
> >
> >
> > For the ones who could'nt have a nice day without listening for some
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> > --
> > Cordialement, Pierre Sahores
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