RE: Customising the Metacard Environment

[Wilhelm Sanke]

 On Tue, 08 Jul 2003,  Monte Goulding wrote:


> > a speaker of
> > Australian or Tamil English (the latter spoken around Madras) will
> > probably never understand a man from Texas.
>
> Hello Wilhelm
>
> I'm Australian and have spoken to a number of Texans and understand them
> perfectly well. Contrary to popular opinion, Australians are not a mutant
> race roaming around in the desert and riding kangaroos ;-)
>
> Anywayz I.. uh.. thing I'll garn mt Wuzza n Buzza dun tha Pub fa Beer
>
> Cheers
>
> Monte
>
Hello Monte,

While writing what you quoted above  I was actually thinking of your
reaction. Of course I was overstating to make my point. Australians -
especially with the added support of a good glass of wine from Barossa
Valley (brought there and cultivated at first by German settlers) - will
surely understand a number of dialects. I know this from my own
experience. The case of the man from Texas is more difficult and may be
worsened additionally by language content, but he has the option to try
California wine (brought there and cultivated at first by German
settlers) and thus advance on the road to international understanding.
So much for chauvinism.
My greatest challenge had been to understand friends in Clapham (South
London) who spoke a beautiful "sociolect"  not even mentioned by Prof.
Higgins.-

In the meantime, the world has turned upside down and the case of
customizing/customising Metacard assumes a new relevance.

I was happy to find the following statement (promise?) in the FAQ of
Kevin Miller´s takeover news:

" However, for those existing MetaCard customers that want
to continue to use the MetaCard tools, we will arrange an outside group
of volunteer developers to maintain the existing MetaCard user interface

so that they may do so."

I very much hope that such a group will come into existence *and* will
not only be tolerated, but also supported by the new joint
Metacard/Revolution team.

Cheers to you,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Re: Customising the Metacard Environment

[Pierre Sahores]

W. Sanke a écrit:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:27:24 -0400, "Mathewson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

One of the best ways to customise (British 'S' in
'customise') Metacard (and vice versa) is to open its
components using Runtime Revolution to edit.
However (this will not make me popular) I personally find
that Runtime Revolution wipes the floor with Metacard - and
seems even more customisable.
Richmond Mathewson

   

One would have to go very much into details to compare and assess the
advantages and deficiencies of Metacard and  the Revolution GUI.
It is also a matter of personal taste and what demands you have as to
how "organized" and  how fast an environment should be. Another
difference would be the needs of beginners and power users - and even
power users may prefer quick access to the most needed functions, while
others are comfortable with walking through a maze.
And above all, it may depend on what you learned first: Most people like
what they already know.-
Concerning the language problem:

There are so few regional variations of written English that it is
indeed worth mentioning if you find any. Otherwise the English language
is very much like Chinese - with a common written basis and a great
number of mutually incomprehensible spoken dialects; a speaker of
Australian or Tamil English (the latter spoken around Madras) will
probably never understand a man from Texas. As for the British Isles,
George Bernard Shaw has competently described the situation of spoken
English.
Maybe we should start on the roadmap for international understanding
with a spelling bee?
Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Hi Friends,

What is good for Runtime Revolution is good for the Metacard engine and
what is good in the Metacard engine makes Runtime Revolution more
powerfull. In a more subjective way, the ones who loves Revolution + the
ones who loves Metacard + the ones who loves both makes the professional
grade XTalk's market share bigger. Is't it not the best the developers,
we all are, can expect for our prefered RAD tool ?
Bests,

Pierre Sahores

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Re: Customising the Metacard Environment

[Pierre Sahores]

W. Sanke a écrit:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:27:24 -0400, "Mathewson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

One of the best ways to customise (British 'S' in
'customise') Metacard (and vice versa) is to open its
components using Runtime Revolution to edit.
However (this will not make me popular) I personally find
that Runtime Revolution wipes the floor with Metacard - and
seems even more customisable.
Richmond Mathewson

   

One would have to go very much into details to compare and assess the
advantages and deficiencies of Metacard and  the Revolution GUI.
It is also a matter of personal taste and what demands you have as to
how "organized" and  how fast an environment should be. Another
difference would be the needs of beginners and power users - and even
power users may prefer quick access to the most needed functions, while
others are comfortable with walking through a maze.
And above all, it may depend on what you learned first: Most people like
what they already know.-
Concerning the language problem:

There are so few regional variations of written English that it is
indeed worth mentioning if you find any. Otherwise the English language
is very much like Chinese - with a common written basis and a great
number of mutually incomprehensible spoken dialects; a speaker of
Australian or Tamil English (the latter spoken around Madras) will
probably never understand a man from Texas. As for the British Isles,
George Bernard Shaw has competently described the situation of spoken
English.
Maybe we should start on the roadmap for international understanding
with a spelling bee?
Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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Hi Friends,

What is good for Runtime Revolution is good for the Metacard engine and 
what is good in the Metacard engine makes Runtime Revolution more 
powerfull. In a more subjective way, the ones who loves Revolution + the 
ones who loves Metacard + the ones who loves both makes the professional 
grade XTalk's market share bigger. Is't it not the best the developers, 
we all are, can expect for our prefered RAD tool ?

Bests,

Pierre Sahores

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RE: Customising the Metacard Environment

[Monte Goulding]

> a speaker of
> Australian or Tamil English (the latter spoken around Madras) will
> probably never understand a man from Texas.

Hello Wilhelm

I'm Australian and have spoken to a number of Texans and understand them
perfectly well. Contrary to popular opinion, Australians are not a mutant
race roaming around in the desert and riding kangaroos ;-)

Anywayz I.. uh.. thing I'll garn mt Wuzza n Buzza dun tha Pub fa Beer

Cheers

Monte

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Re: Customising the Metacard Environment

[W. Sanke]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 03:27:24 -0400, "Mathewson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> One of the best ways to customise (British 'S' in
> 'customise') Metacard (and vice versa) is to open its
> components using Runtime Revolution to edit.
>
> However (this will not make me popular) I personally find
> that Runtime Revolution wipes the floor with Metacard - and
> seems even more customisable.
>
> Richmond Mathewson
>
One would have to go very much into details to compare and assess the
advantages and deficiencies of Metacard and  the Revolution GUI.

It is also a matter of personal taste and what demands you have as to
how "organized" and  how fast an environment should be. Another
difference would be the needs of beginners and power users - and even
power users may prefer quick access to the most needed functions, while
others are comfortable with walking through a maze.

And above all, it may depend on what you learned first: Most people like
what they already know.-

Concerning the language problem:

There are so few regional variations of written English that it is
indeed worth mentioning if you find any. Otherwise the English language
is very much like Chinese - with a common written basis and a great
number of mutually incomprehensible spoken dialects; a speaker of
Australian or Tamil English (the latter spoken around Madras) will
probably never understand a man from Texas. As for the British Isles,
George Bernard Shaw has competently described the situation of spoken
English.

Maybe we should start on the roadmap for international understanding
with a spelling bee?

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke

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RE: Customising the Metacard Environment

[MisterX]

Monday, 07 July, 2003 Richmond  scripted,

> However (this will not make me popular) I personally find
> that Runtime Revolution wipes the floor with Metacard - and
> seems even more customisable.

Richmond,

It's all in the limit you set on 
your view or experience of things...

This could be true but consider that 
RR was built on top of MetaCard.

In RunRev, your stacks have both 
the restriction of the RunRev platform 
and its language and [exo] operating time/scope. 
Though it's certainly a great and awesome show 
in product design, quality and engineering! 

Now, maybe all MC settings may be 'easily' available
in RR, but changing them could "disrupt" RR's smooth
operation. Im sure RR authors thought of that though! ;) 

(absolutely untested by yours truly but for extreme
programming fans, this should be fun to script'n'test!)

In MC, you dont have this. You dont have all the property 
buttons available either in any of the palettes but they 
are available in the help stack (but you have to find, 
retype and examplify it yourself)...

The index window in the help menu is where to start...

You havent seen "Control Browser X" have you?


It's ALL the properties, customprops, content and script of any
stack object editable in one stack. 

Cheers to MetaCard's ultimate powers of conception!
Xavier

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Customising the Metacard Environment

[Mathewson]

One of the best ways to customise (British 'S' in
'customise') Metacard (and vice versa) is to open its
components using Runtime Revolution to edit.

However (this will not make me popular) I personally find
that Runtime Revolution wipes the floor with Metacard - and
seems even more customisable.

Richmond Mathewson

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