Re: Colors
My mail has been down and I am out of date. In reading the archived mail, I ran into this message that I know all too well. I have had many customers write in about this happening with my apps. They have all walks of printers. Funny thing is that it only happens on Mac systems. Has never been reported with Win users. I have seen it myself on both inkjet and laser printers. I have reported to Scott. We were went over it for a while. The only solution was to set printcolors to false. But, you need it set to true. MC 2.3.2 has not shown the problem yet. I am hoping that it does not surface. But now that I know it has happened to someone else, I will post if it does. -Mark > > Hi all. > > Philip's problem is not unique. I have it all the time, and > it is not a problem with how MC appears on the screen. > > I have an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer. If I am working on > a card which is to be printed (editing, changing code, > putting in fields, buttons, etc), and print the card, any > imported graphics print fine. However, everything else is a > shade of gray. It is as if the color data in the stack gets > unsettled. The color data is there, but is not accessed > appropriately by the print engine. I am using a white > background. > > I tried almost everything to get the white background to be > white on the printout. I set the stack's background color to > white. I set the card's background color to white. The > groups -- I set their background color to white as well. > Nothing worked. > > I have to physically quit MC, reload my stack, and have it > print the card without my editing it in order to get a clean > white background. And yes, I have printcolors set to true > (otherwise my graphics would have been a shade of gray or > black as well). > > I have meant to send this in to Scott. I mentioned it to > Kevin. > > BTW, I have an iMac, 266 Mhz, 96 MB of memory. Hmmm. I > haven't tried increasing my memory allotment to MC. I'll try > that. If it needs more memory to adequately access the color > tables, perhaps the default memory settings MC comes with > are set too low. > > Scott, I know my "explanation" concerning the color data is > simplistic. But might I be on the right track? > > Cheers, > > Raymond > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Colors
> Philip, > > not sure what your color problem is with printing, i never seemed to have > any odd printing when i was using a Umax S900 with metacard, but just > sold the old machine so i cant check out your specific problem anymore. > > on the difference on how your graphics look on the screen its the > different gamma settings that are the norm on the mac to pc side. pcs > usually end up on the more vibrant side. usually we just set the gamma of > the picts to a setting in between the mac and pc values to split the > difference (mac standard is 1.8 and pc is 2.2). you can also reset the > mac gamma in os9 under the monitor control panel, but this wont help if > your app is going to be distributed to lots of other macs. > > hope this helps, > > jeff > Hi all. Philip's problem is not unique. I have it all the time, and it is not a problem with how MC appears on the screen. I have an Epson Stylus Color 600 printer. If I am working on a card which is to be printed (editing, changing code, putting in fields, buttons, etc), and print the card, any imported graphics print fine. However, everything else is a shade of gray. It is as if the color data in the stack gets unsettled. The color data is there, but is not accessed appropriately by the print engine. I am using a white background. I tried almost everything to get the white background to be white on the printout. I set the stack's background color to white. I set the card's background color to white. The groups -- I set their background color to white as well. Nothing worked. I have to physically quit MC, reload my stack, and have it print the card without my editing it in order to get a clean white background. And yes, I have printcolors set to true (otherwise my graphics would have been a shade of gray or black as well). I have meant to send this in to Scott. I mentioned it to Kevin. BTW, I have an iMac, 266 Mhz, 96 MB of memory. Hmmm. I haven't tried increasing my memory allotment to MC. I'll try that. If it needs more memory to adequately access the color tables, perhaps the default memory settings MC comes with are set too low. Scott, I know my "explanation" concerning the color data is simplistic. But might I be on the right track? Cheers, Raymond > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Colors > >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:07:31 EST > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >I have a program that runs on both PC and Mac platforms where I print an > >image positioned in the center of a white card. While running on a Mac > >clone > >machine, I noticed that the white area which is transparent to the printer > >on > >Windows and Mac, prints as light gray on the Mac clone. Has anyone > >experienced this before? > > > >Also, it seems the colors on the Mac are not as brilliant as they are on the > >PC. This bothers me since I am a Mac person at heart. Any idea why this > >happens? > > > >Philip Chumbley > > > > Jeffrey H. Reynolds, Ph.D. > Waveforms > 5236 Locksley Ave. > Oakland, CA 94618 > 510.653.8929 voice > 510.653.8909 fax > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: Colors
Thanks Larry, for the feedback. The program is printing to different printers so I'll looking into the drivers, etc. Philip >>What graphics cards are used? Are your video drivers up to date? What are the color depths on these various machines? Are you printing to the same printer? Are the computers using the same printer drivers and driver settings?<< Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: Colors
What graphics cards are used? Are your video drivers up to date? What are the color depths on these various machines? Are you printing to the same printer? Are the computers using the same printer drivers and driver settings? I have found that these things do affect printed color output. There doesn't seem to be one standard group of settings to suggest but these seem to be important variables to play with. Consistent color printing from MC seems problematic at best. Hopefully, you can find the combination of things that works best for you. Larry Huisingh > > I have a program that runs on both PC and Mac platforms where > I print an > image positioned in the center of a white card. While > running on a Mac clone > machine, I noticed that the white area which is transparent > to the printer on > Windows and Mac, prints as light gray on the Mac clone. Has anyone > experienced this before? > > Also, it seems the colors on the Mac are not as brilliant as > they are on the > PC. This bothers me since I am a Mac person at heart. Any > idea why this > happens? > > Philip Chumbley > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Colors
Philip, not sure what your color problem is with printing, i never seemed to have any odd printing when i was using a Umax S900 with metacard, but just sold the old machine so i cant check out your specific problem anymore. on the difference on how your graphics look on the screen its the different gamma settings that are the norm on the mac to pc side. pcs usually end up on the more vibrant side. usually we just set the gamma of the picts to a setting in between the mac and pc values to split the difference (mac standard is 1.8 and pc is 2.2). you can also reset the mac gamma in os9 under the monitor control panel, but this wont help if your app is going to be distributed to lots of other macs. hope this helps, jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/28/00 6:23 PM >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Colors >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:07:31 EST >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I have a program that runs on both PC and Mac platforms where I print an >image positioned in the center of a white card. While running on a Mac >clone >machine, I noticed that the white area which is transparent to the printer >on >Windows and Mac, prints as light gray on the Mac clone. Has anyone >experienced this before? > >Also, it seems the colors on the Mac are not as brilliant as they are on the >PC. This bothers me since I am a Mac person at heart. Any idea why this >happens? > >Philip Chumbley Jeffrey H. Reynolds, Ph.D. Waveforms 5236 Locksley Ave. Oakland, CA 94618 510.653.8929 voice 510.653.8909 fax email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
