Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
Ray G. Miller wrote: > I can't get the dang thing (Rev 2.1) to work either. I'm using MOS 9.2, > nuttin' fancy. (I reaaaly don't care for OS X in any flavor. Too > slow even on my G4 and the eye-candy is just silly. I feel as tho > I've stepped back into the dreaded CP/M world.. ;-) ) > > I'm using the last MC (2.5) until the smoke clears... I think in OS 9 it may be as simple as with Win32: have you tried renaming the engine to "MetaCard"? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
On 9/4/03 10:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I'm on Mac OS X and ready to use Rev 2.1 with the MC IDE. I copy the Rev >> app to my MC folder and double-click it - and it "unexpectedly quit". >> >> What is needed to use the latest engine with the MC IDE? I can't get the dang thing (Rev 2.1) to work either. I'm using MOS 9.2, nuttin' fancy. (I reaaaly don't care for OS X in any flavor. Too slow even on my G4 and the eye-candy is just silly. I feel as tho I've stepped back into the dreaded CP/M world.. ;-) ) I'm using the last MC (2.5) until the smoke clears... Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
On 9/5/03 1:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mismatched? Once the Revolution engine is renamed to "MetaCard" it should match the plist in the MC folder, yes? Yes, but the version info no longer matches the executable. Oh, right. I forgot about that. You're ahead of me again. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
Robert Brenstein wrote: >> J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >>> On 9/5/03 12:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >>> It works here. While it's a smart solution, it's a dumb problem, leaving up with a mismatched plist file as well until we dig on and take care of that as well. >>> >>> Mismatched? Once the Revolution engine is renamed to "MetaCard" it >>> should match the plist in the MC folder, yes? >> >> Yes, but the version info no longer matches the executable. >> > > Well, this is why we need to resolve the versioning issues as it was > briefly discussed recently. That versioning issue was about the mismatch between the engine and the IDE. The IDE is open source and not their responsibility, so that one's ours (and easily addressed). But the engine is the engine, and it should be able to run by itself no matter where it is. In OS X the engine includes the .app bundle, and it's just silly to have to dissect one engine to move and rename parts into another just to get back to a robust engine that worked anywhere. > Has anyone followed with RunRev on that? > It seems we really need to get a bit organized and have a leader or > at least designate someone who talks to Rev folks to resolve such > issues. I doubt that they want to be contacted by many individuals. > Any volunteers? I have a note in to Scott for advisement on how best to proceed. It would be useful to know why Rev unexpectedly quits when outside of its native folder, and may just be a bug. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/5/03 12:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It works here. While it's a smart solution, it's a dumb problem, leaving up with a mismatched plist file as well until we dig on and take care of that as well. Mismatched? Once the Revolution engine is renamed to "MetaCard" it should match the plist in the MC folder, yes? Yes, but the version info no longer matches the executable. Well, this is why we need to resolve the versioning issues as it was briefly discussed recently. Has anyone followed with RunRev on that? It seems we really need to get a bit organized and have a leader or at least designate someone who talks to Rev folks to resolve such issues. I doubt that they want to be contacted by many individuals. Any volunteers? Robert ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/5/03 12:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> It works here. While it's a smart solution, it's a dumb problem, leaving up >> with a mismatched plist file as well until we dig on and take care of that >> as well. > > Mismatched? Once the Revolution engine is renamed to "MetaCard" it > should match the plist in the MC folder, yes? Yes, but the version info no longer matches the executable. >> Why wouldn't the revolution.app simply work renamed as MetaCard? Or better, >> why should the engine for any platform need to be renamed at all? > > I'm just guessing, but I think if the engine is named "Revolution" then > it looks for all the Rev support files. If it is named "MetaCard", it > doesn't. I can't remember why I think this, but it sounds like something > I may have heard somewhere. If only Scott were here to tell us -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
On 9/5/03 12:35 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It works here. While it's a smart solution, it's a dumb problem, leaving up with a mismatched plist file as well until we dig on and take care of that as well. Mismatched? Once the Revolution engine is renamed to "MetaCard" it should match the plist in the MC folder, yes? Why wouldn't the revolution.app simply work renamed as MetaCard? Or better, why should the engine for any platform need to be renamed at all? I'm just guessing, but I think if the engine is named "Revolution" then it looks for all the Rev support files. If it is named "MetaCard", it doesn't. I can't remember why I think this, but it sounds like something I may have heard somewhere. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/4/03 10:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I'm on Mac OS X and ready to use Rev 2.1 with the MC IDE. I copy the Rev >> app to my MC folder and double-click it - and it "unexpectedly quit". >> >> What is needed to use the latest engine with the MC IDE? > > Make a copy of the entire OS X MetaCard distribution folder. Then: > > 1. Control-click the Rev app and choose "show package contents" from the > contextual menu. Open folder: Contents/MacOS/ > 2. Control-click the Revolution file in there and choose "Copy > Revolution" from the menu. > 3. Open the copy of the MetaCard folder. Control-click the MetaCard app > and go into Contents/MacOS/ > 4. Delete the MetaCard file > 5. Control-click in the empty folder and choose "Paste item" from the menu. > 6. Rename the new copy of Revolution to "MetaCard". Close all the folders. > > Back now in the main MetaCard distribution folder, double-click the new > MetaCard app. It should launch, though you'll get a message about a > mismatched tools stack. Bring up the message box and type: > > set the mcversion of stack "MetaCard Menu Bar" to "2.5.1" > save stack "MetaCard Menu Bar" > > Resetting the mcversion of the tools stack allows the Help menu to work > and avoids the error message when the Home stack opens. > > That does it for me. Scott Rossi said he couldn't get it to work though. > I don't know if he ever solved it. It works here. While it's a smart solution, it's a dumb problem, leaving up with a mismatched plist file as well until we dig on and take care of that as well. Why wouldn't the revolution.app simply work renamed as MetaCard? Or better, why should the engine for any platform need to be renamed at all? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Using the Rev 2.1 engine
On 9/4/03 10:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm on Mac OS X and ready to use Rev 2.1 with the MC IDE. I copy the Rev app to my MC folder and double-click it - and it "unexpectedly quit". What is needed to use the latest engine with the MC IDE? Make a copy of the entire OS X MetaCard distribution folder. Then: 1. Control-click the Rev app and choose "show package contents" from the contextual menu. Open folder: Contents/MacOS/ 2. Control-click the Revolution file in there and choose "Copy Revolution" from the menu. 3. Open the copy of the MetaCard folder. Control-click the MetaCard app and go into Contents/MacOS/ 4. Delete the MetaCard file 5. Control-click in the empty folder and choose "Paste item" from the menu. 6. Rename the new copy of Revolution to "MetaCard". Close all the folders. Back now in the main MetaCard distribution folder, double-click the new MetaCard app. It should launch, though you'll get a message about a mismatched tools stack. Bring up the message box and type: set the mcversion of stack "MetaCard Menu Bar" to "2.5.1" save stack "MetaCard Menu Bar" Resetting the mcversion of the tools stack allows the Help menu to work and avoids the error message when the Home stack opens. That does it for me. Scott Rossi said he couldn't get it to work though. I don't know if he ever solved it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Using the Rev 2.1 engine
I'm on Mac OS X and ready to use Rev 2.1 with the MC IDE. I copy the Rev app to my MC folder and double-click it - and it "unexpectedly quit". What is needed to use the latest engine with the MC IDE? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
