Re: record sound bug

2001-12-13 Thread cowhead
> amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne wrote:
>
> On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called "Apple
> Simple Sound Record Dialog", but I do not know how to open it from
> within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using
> "GURLGURL", open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event.
> I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance.
> --
>

You can launch the application "simpleSound" if it is present on the system, but you 
must then specify "new sound", record the sound, then specify the name and place to 
save it.  i.e.  it is fairly labor intensive.  So, instead, I have used a dedicated 
supercard stack which I can then pass all this info on to with a simple copy paste 
into a supercard field.  I can then launch this supercard stack each time from 
metacard and use this to access the apple record dialog.  After using this dialog, it 
does not ask
you to specify the file name and location, as the simple sound dialog does.  I do not 
know if that means it is actually a different dialog, or if that asking behaviour 
comes from the application 'simplesound'.  But you are right, it would be nice if we 
could access the same dialog direct from metacard.  If supercard can do it, surely 
metacard can too.  The dialog is nice as it allows multiple recordings and playbacks 
before one actually commits to saving anything as a file on the HD.  This is, as it 
turns
out, often crucial.

mark mitchell

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Re: record sound bug?

2001-12-13 Thread Signe Marie Sanne

>On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote:
>
>>There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing 
>>list...but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyway, back to the old 
>>"record sound" saga...
>>
>>It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've 
>>been forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks 
>>before this) but I can only get it to work well when using the 
>>"with dialog" command...eg.
>>ask file "what"
>>record sound IT with dialog
>>
>>This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 
>>'recordFormats()' options, and there are quite a few that sound 
>>really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little 
>>memory space as well.  Unfortunately, if you try to record directly 
>>in these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't 
>>sound good anymore. Moreover, the quality level makes no 
>>difference.  e.g.
>>
>>record sound file it as fl64 with best quality
>>
>>sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) 
>>recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear.  I suspect 
>>the culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect 
>>in the direct (non dialog) script.  I suspect that the dialog is 
>>recording as 'best' but not the direct script.  I wish I could see 
>>what the 'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I 
>>can't find it.  I've tried putting quotes around the quality in the 
>>direct script (e.g with "best" quality), but the
>>compiler will not accept this.
>>
>>In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any 
>>format which sounds really good on the Mac?  Or is there something 
>>broken here that might ought to be fixed (my opinion).  I don't 
>>want to have to go through the dialog each time.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>mark mitchell
>
>
>IMHO, something is wrong.  I can get it to record, but it is only in 
>the Qualcomm PureVoice,"Qclp".  This one records very clearly.  My 
>only problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound 
>and sometime it does.  Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the 
>end of the recorded sound.  When I can get around to understanding 
>it more, I will bug report it more clearly to Scott.
>
>I use the following script in a record button:
>   record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound file
>
>Stop button:
>   stop recording
>
>I would be interested to know if this happens for you.  Have only 
>done most of my testing on OS 10
>
>-Mark Talluto
>

I am able to record (with dialog) on Mac at 22.050 kHz and on Windows 
at 44.100. However, I would also get rid of the dialog, and have 
chosen the PC inbuilt sound panel:
  put word 1 to -2 of 
queryRegistry("hkey_classes_root\soundRec\shell\record\command\") 
into tRecorder
launch tRecorder

On Mac I have found that the corresponding panel is called "Apple 
Simple Sound Record Dialog", but I do not know how to open it from 
within MC. I'm sure someone must have the right recipe, either using 
"GURLGURL", open process, or launch or something, or an Apple Event. 
I'm eagerly looking forward to suggestions. Thanks in advance.
-- 

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Re: record sound bug?

2001-12-12 Thread fuegox


On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote:

> There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing 
> list...but it seems to have disappeared.  Anyway, back to the old 
> "record sound" saga...
>
> It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been 
> forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before 
> this) but I can only get it to work well when using the "with dialog" 
> command...eg.
> ask file "what"
> record sound IT with dialog
>
> This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' 
> options, and there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS 
> 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little memory space as well.  
> Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in these formats, without 
> going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. Moreover, the 
> quality level makes no difference.  e.g.
>
> record sound file it as fl64 with best quality
>
> sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) 
> recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear.  I suspect the 
> culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect in the 
> direct (non dialog) script.  I suspect that the dialog is recording as 
> 'best' but not the direct script.  I wish I could see what the 'sound 
> settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it.  I've 
> tried putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with 
> "best" quality), but the
> compiler will not accept this.
>
> In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format 
> which sounds really good on the Mac?  Or is there something broken here 
> that might ought to be fixed (my opinion).  I don't want to have to go 
> through the dialog each time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> mark mitchell


IMHO, something is wrong.  I can get it to record, but it is only in the 
Qualcomm PureVoice™,"Qclp".  This one records very clearly.  My only 
problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound and 
sometime it does.  Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the end of 
the recorded sound.  When I can get around to understanding it more, I 
will bug report it more clearly to Scott.

I use the following script in a record button:
   record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound 
file

Stop button:
   stop recording

I would be interested to know if this happens for you.  Have only done 
most of my testing on OS 10

-Mark Talluto

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record sound bug?

2001-12-12 Thread cowhead
There used to be a "send bug reports to." on this mailing list...but it seems to 
have disappeared.  Anyway, back to the old "record sound" saga...

It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been forced to use 
weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before this) but I can only get it to 
work well when using the "with dialog" command...eg.
ask file "what"
record sound IT with dialog

This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' options, and 
there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up 
very little memory space as well.  Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in 
these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. 
Moreover, the quality level makes no difference.  e.g.

record sound file it as fl64 with best quality

sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) recorded through the 
'dialog', which is crystal clear.  I suspect the culprit is in the quality level, 
which seems to have no effect in the direct (non dialog) script.  I suspect that the 
dialog is recording as 'best' but not the direct script.  I wish I could see what the 
'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it.  I've tried 
putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with "best" quality), but 
the
compiler will not accept this.

In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format which sounds 
really good on the Mac?  Or is there something broken here that might ought to be 
fixed (my opinion).  I don't want to have to go through the dialog each time.

Thanks!

mark mitchell

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