Re: Setting maximum scroll
On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 10:59 PM, I wrote: > It's the formattedheight PLUS the scrollbarwidth minus the height. I should have explained, there's a horizontal scrollbar too. Without that, Jeanne's calculations are right. I'm not sure how I could look at that thing all this time and not see it, but I wasn't accounting for it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Setting maximum scroll
On Thursday, March 14, 2002, at 10:21 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: > > The maximum should be the formattedHeight minus the height of the group, I > do believe. It didn't work, but you jogged my brain. It's the formattedheight PLUS the scrollbarwidth minus the height. Thanks. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Setting maximum scroll
At 8:07 PM -0800 3/14/2002, Jacqueline Landman Gay wrote: >I have a group with a vertical scrollbar. I need to set the scroll of the >group all the way to the bottom. There doesn't seem to be a way to get the >thumbsize from a scrollbar in a group, so I am unable to calculate what >the maximum scroll value should be. Is there a way to do that without >having to script a separate scrollbar object? The maximum should be the formattedHeight minus the height of the group, I do believe. -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Power to the Developer! ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Setting maximum scroll
I have a group with a vertical scrollbar. I need to set the scroll of the group all the way to the bottom. There doesn't seem to be a way to get the thumbsize from a scrollbar in a group, so I am unable to calculate what the maximum scroll value should be. Is there a way to do that without having to script a separate scrollbar object? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: scroll
Sorry for being so controversial ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jacqueline Landman Gay Sent: Wednesday, 13 December 2000 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: scroll Monte Goulding wrote: > > Yes and as I feel HyperCard is redundant then I don't use the term > background because all it does is confuse the situation. Backgrounds and groups are functionally the same in MetaCard, but syntactically different. When you ask for "the number of groups" you will get back the number of groups on the card. When you ask for "the number of backgrounds" you will get back the number of groups (backgrounds) in the stack as a whole. This is a nice touch for those of us who port HyperCard stacks to MetaCard. In HyperCard, "the number of backgrounds" always refers to the number in the stack. > One thing that > annoys me is that there are some things that are put in for HyperCard > compatabilty that actualy do their job and some that don't. As far as I'm > concerned take all the HyperCard stuff out unless it actually is functional. Allowing x-talk compatibility makes it much less work to perform a HyperCard port -- and I'm doing a lot of those lately. I appreciate the flexible syntax, and I hope the functionality is retained. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: scroll
Monte Goulding wrote: > > Yes and as I feel HyperCard is redundant then I don't use the term > background because all it does is confuse the situation. Backgrounds and groups are functionally the same in MetaCard, but syntactically different. When you ask for "the number of groups" you will get back the number of groups on the card. When you ask for "the number of backgrounds" you will get back the number of groups (backgrounds) in the stack as a whole. This is a nice touch for those of us who port HyperCard stacks to MetaCard. In HyperCard, "the number of backgrounds" always refers to the number in the stack. > One thing that > annoys me is that there are some things that are put in for HyperCard > compatabilty that actualy do their job and some that don't. As far as I'm > concerned take all the HyperCard stuff out unless it actually is functional. Allowing x-talk compatibility makes it much less work to perform a HyperCard port -- and I'm doing a lot of those lately. I appreciate the flexible syntax, and I hope the functionality is retained. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | 612-724-1596 Custom hypermedia solutions| http://www.hyperactivesw.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: scroll
Yes and as I feel HyperCard is redundant then I don't use the term background because all it does is confuse the situation. One thing that annoys me is that there are some things that are put in for HyperCard compatabilty that actualy do their job and some that don't. As far as I'm concerned take all the HyperCard stuff out unless it actually is functional. Best regards Monte -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Rossi Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 8:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: scroll Recently, Monte Goulding wrote: > I didn't say I don't use groups. I just don't > refer to them as backgrounds (I don't see the point - Could someone > enlighten me on different properties if there are any). Backgrounds and groups are the same -- I believe the use of "background" is provided for Hypercard compatibility. Regards, Scott __ Scott RossiTactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: scroll
Recently, Monte Goulding wrote: > I didn't say I don't use groups. I just don't > refer to them as backgrounds (I don't see the point - Could someone > enlighten me on different properties if there are any). Backgrounds and groups are the same -- I believe the use of "background" is provided for Hypercard compatibility. Regards, Scott __ Scott RossiTactile Media - Multimedia & Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: scroll
I think I missed a post here. I didn't say I don't use groups. I just don't refer to them as backgrounds (I don't see the point - Could someone enlighten me on different properties if there are any). It's a bit too hypercard for me ;-/ Regards Monte -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Lord Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 3:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: scroll Old argument. Besides, I fell in love with groups and how they operate in MetaCard. Just awesome. -- Cheers, Simon Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com -- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov > From: "Monte Goulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:55:00 +1030 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: scroll > > I rareley use backgrounds. I think they have the same properties as groups > so they should have their own vertical and horizontal scrollBars > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 1:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: scroll > > > How do you place scroll bars on a BACKGROUND so that the entire background > with its grouped objects can be scrolled both horizontally and vertically? > This is to accomodate viewing a stack in a small screen. > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: scroll
Old argument. Besides, I fell in love with groups and how they operate in MetaCard. Just awesome. -- Cheers, Simon Graphic Development: http://www.amigo-3.com -- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov > From: "Monte Goulding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 12:55:00 +1030 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: scroll > > I rareley use backgrounds. I think they have the same properties as groups > so they should have their own vertical and horizontal scrollBars > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 1:05 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: scroll > > > How do you place scroll bars on a BACKGROUND so that the entire background > with its grouped objects can be scrolled both horizontally and vertically? > This is to accomodate viewing a stack in a small screen. > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
RE: scroll
I rareley use backgrounds. I think they have the same properties as groups so they should have their own vertical and horizontal scrollBars -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 12 December 2000 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: scroll How do you place scroll bars on a BACKGROUND so that the entire background with its grouped objects can be scrolled both horizontally and vertically? This is to accomodate viewing a stack in a small screen. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: scroll
How do you place scroll bars on a BACKGROUND so that the entire background with its grouped objects can be scrolled both horizontally and vertically? This is to accomodate viewing a stack in a small screen. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
