[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions

2002-01-25 Thread Matteo Chinellato

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I have put a few auctions
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[meteorite-list] Kobe

2002-01-25 Thread drtanuki

Dear List Members,
I have small samples of Kobe, Japan CK4.   Contact off list if
interested.  Dirk Ross...Tokyo


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[meteorite-list] Thank You

2002-01-25 Thread Rick Nowak

Steve 

Thank you very much for your letter. Where allowed to
make mistakes and we all should have a place for
understanding and forgivness. And when a person goes
out of their way like you have you can only admire
them more. Steve if you had such reseacrh on Plymouth
my goodness some type type of compesation would need
to be given to you. Have you ever heard of the
Chesapeake the billion dollar gold treasure ship?
The research was so good that they literally dropped
the anchor on the ship the first day looking for it.
Thousands of hours and millions of dollars were saved
all due to research. I would like to talk to my
associate and see what we can offer you in return for
your research. Sometimes thou all the research in the
world can be futile and just plain back breaking foot
by foot work needs to be done. 

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[meteorite-list] Subject: Money

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Casper



Subject: Money 
Money. It can buy a 
Bed But not 
Sleep It can buy a 
Clock But not 
Time It can buy you a 
Book But not 
Knowledge It can buy you a 
Position But not 
Respect It can buy you 
Medicine But not 
Health It can buy you 
Blood But not 
Life It can buy you 
Sex But not Love 
So you see money isn't everything. And it often 
causes pain and suffering. I tell you all this 
because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take 
away your pain and suffering So send me all 
your money and I will suffer for you. Cash is 
fine.

 xoxox, MC




[meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing

2002-01-25 Thread David Freeman

Dear Listees;
How far from being a qualified meteorite testing lab is a good quality 
soils, water, and air testing lab.  Lab has numerous gas chromatography, 
 organics and inorganics, trace element testing equipt. microscopes, and 
some thin section equipment?   Lab doesn't have experience with 
meteorites.  Would this be the limiting factor, or is there much 
more to the picture?  Lab is fully accredited and has been around quite 
a while (20 years).  
Any opinions are welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Dave Freeman
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[meteorite-list] bubbly tektites

2002-01-25 Thread Graham Christensen

Hello Astro list and meteorite list,

I discovered a few months ago as I was examining my tektite collection that 
one of the regular $5.00 pieces that you get from rock shops (indochinite?) 
has a bubble in it. The bubble is about 1 mm indiameter. Is a bubble like 
this rare? The tektite is an odd looking thing with huge pits (big enough to 
stick your finger in) on one side, and a light frothy texture on the other 
side.

I have heard of bubbles in tektites before in an article I read somewhere. 
It said that the bubbles contain rarified ordinary air. If I remember 
correctly, this is believed to have resulted from the tektites forming in a 
column of low pressure air trailing the impacting meteorite. But wouldn't 
the low pressure air trailing the meteorite be dragged down from the upper 
atmosphere which has a different composition? I came up with a crazy 
alternative theory (I come up with a lot of these, too much spare time) that 
may eliminate this problem:

In grade four, my teacher gave a science demonstration. She placed a metal 
container onto a hot plate, this heated the container and the air inside. 
Then she but a lid on the container and removed it from the heat source. As 
the air cooled it contracted, resulting in a lower pressure, the container 
collapsed. So, if a tektite solidified, somewhere under 2000 degrees, with a 
bubble in it, the air in the bubble would be at about 2000 degrees. Once the 
tektite solidified the air would be trapped in a bubble whose volume could 
no longer change. The air would still be at about 1500 degrees and when it 
cooled it would contract resulting in a low pressure within the bubble. Am I 
on to something or am I just crazy?


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Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad

2002-01-25 Thread Ron Baalke

 
 I was touched to read members' Steve Sach's words of regret, words that 
 aren't easy for any of us to write under any circumstances. 
 
 My warm, fuzzy feeling was nuked by the message I just received from Ron 
 Baalke and I'm reminded of why people are cynical about their government and, 
 in a general sense, how hateful some people are, and why one can grow to 
 mistrust and lose all respect for others.
 
 Ron had privately sent me a change yesterday to the language surrounding the 
 Nakhla dog on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two different 
 versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to 
 me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of words. 
 
 He replied back yesterday with a version that was accurate and acceptable, a 
 version he marked- Better. This was followed by the same unacceptable 
 version from the day before now marked I like this even better.
 
 I agreed to his, HIS, version #1 marked Better, thanked him for his 
 efforts, and mentioned that this peaceful settlement should be announced to 
 you, the m-list for closure.
 
 I have just received a response from Ron. He's refusing to accept HIS OWN 
 version of the story that I agreed with. The message reads in part, Like I 
 said, I like this even better, followed by the version I'd refused twice. 
 
 His message ends, I already changed the phrasing a week ago anyway.
 
 Ron has never offered a shred of meaningful proof that the dog existed, and I 
 have in my files copies of support for my take on the dog from the most 
 senior and academic members of this list and from the world's great 
 meteoriticists. I'm honored by their interest. 
 
 As for the dog, the story should and will exist as a story, but it's 
 scientifically dead. 
 
 I won't waste my time in the future entertaining the vacuous imaginations of 
 such an arrogant and duplicitous person as Ron Baalke.
 
 Kevin Kichinka
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad

2002-01-25 Thread Ron Baalke

 Nakhla dog on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two different 
 versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to 
 me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of words. 

I've have this on my website

  A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt.  The falls were
  preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local residents.
  There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a dog.  Attempts
  to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus far.
  The stones from this meteorite fall ranged in size from 20g to 1813g,
  and it is estimated a total weight of 10kg (22 pounds) had fallen.

Kevin finds these statements unacceptable.  He is entitled to his opinion.
These statements are accurate, concise and to the point.  I see no reason
to change them.  

Ron Baalke
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad

2002-01-25 Thread Ron Baalke


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Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad

2002-01-25 Thread John Gwilliam

At 12:57 PM 1/25/02 -0800, Ron Baalke wrote:
  Nakhla dog on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two 
 different
  versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to
  me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of 
 words.

I've have this on my website

   A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in 
 Egypt.  The falls were
   preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local 
 residents.
   There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a 
 dog.  Attempts
   to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus far.
   The stones from this meteorite fall ranged in size from 20g to 1813g,
   and it is estimated a total weight of 10kg (22 pounds) had fallen.

Kevin finds these statements unacceptable.  He is entitled to his opinion.
These statements are accurate, concise and to the point.  I see no reason
to change them.

Ron Baalke


Hi Folks,

If someone is going to start counting votes, mark me down a yes - Ron's 
statement on his website is acceptable.

I'm sure that many of you will agree, that even though the attempt to 
authenticate the dog story is inconclusive at this point,  we can accept 
the idea that it may become conclusive at some point in the future.

Sounds fair to me.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing

2002-01-25 Thread Starbits

How far from being a qualified meteorite testing lab is a good quality soils, water, 
and air testing lab.   Lab doesn't have experience with meteorites. Would this be the 
limiting factor, or is there much more to the picture?  Lab is fully accredited and 
has been around quite a while (20 years).   Any opinions are welcome.

Hello Dave and list

   A year or so ago I found a web site that did electron microprobe analyses on 
mineral specimens for mining companies.  I considered contacting them, but before I 
did I talked with Dr. David Kring, LPL, about what it would take to be an accepted 
classifier of meteorites.

   He found it very doubtful that the company I found would be qualified even if they 
were willing.  Basically they would have to do classifications for a while and their 
data would have to be checked to ensure it was correctly done and interpreted.  So you 
would need an accredited lab that would verify their classifications and vouch for 
their ability to get them correct.  I believe Marvin Kilgore did this so he could 
classify material.
   As I recall Dr Kring's problem with the company I mentioned to him was that the 
high through put of analyses and the lower accuracy required for mining data would 
make it doubtful that they would able to meet the requirements of meteorite 
classification.
   The other problem is knowledge of meteorites and their classifications.  According 
to Dr Kring there was a paper published which gave the differences in the H, L, and LL 
ordinary chondrites.  I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure.  Maybe Bernd can tell 
us.  However there is no similar source of comparison for anything else.  So there is 
no readily available logic tree that says if it meets a, b, j, and x it is a winonite. 
 That makes it difficult for someone without a meteorite background to just jump into 
classification.  A logic tree sounds like a good publishable paper to me if anybody is 
interested.
   In short, having the right equipment isn't the whole solution and may actually be 
the easiest part to accomplish.

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RE: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing

2002-01-25 Thread Rhett Bourland

If anyone has a copy of this paper containing the differences between H, L,
and LL chondrites please email me with it as I would be VERY interested in
reading it.  Then again, when I anybody it almost always ends up being Bernd
anybody Pauli.
Thanks,
Rhett Bourland
www.asteroidmodels.com
www.asteroidmodels.com/personal
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How far from being a qualified meteorite testing lab is a good quality
soils, water, and air testing lab.   Lab doesn't have experience with
meteorites. Would this be the limiting factor, or is there much more to the
picture?  Lab is fully accredited and has been around quite a while (20
years).   Any opinions are welcome.

Hello Dave and list

   A year or so ago I found a web site that did electron microprobe analyses
on mineral specimens for mining companies.  I considered contacting them,
but before I did I talked with Dr. David Kring, LPL, about what it would
take to be an accepted classifier of meteorites.

   He found it very doubtful that the company I found would be qualified
even if they were willing.  Basically they would have to do classifications
for a while and their data would have to be checked to ensure it was
correctly done and interpreted.  So you would need an accredited lab that
would verify their classifications and vouch for their ability to get them
correct.  I believe Marvin Kilgore did this so he could classify material.
   As I recall Dr Kring's problem with the company I mentioned to him was
that the high through put of analyses and the lower accuracy required for
mining data would make it doubtful that they would able to meet the
requirements of meteorite classification.
   The other problem is knowledge of meteorites and their classifications.
According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which gave the differences
in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites.  I think it was by Rubin but I am
not sure.  Maybe Bernd can tell us.  However there is no similar source of
comparison for anything else.  So there is no readily available logic tree
that says if it meets a, b, j, and x it is a winonite.  That makes it
difficult for someone without a meteorite background to just jump into
classification.  A logic tree sounds like a good publishable paper to me if
anybody is interested.
   In short, having the right equipment isn't the whole solution and may
actually be the easiest part to accomplish.

Eric Olson
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Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing

2002-01-25 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

 According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which
 gave the differences in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites.
 I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure.

Nor am I. Maybe it is this paper by Rubin:

RUBIN A.E. (1990) Kamacite and olivine in ordinary chondrites:
Intergroup and intragroup relationships (GCA 54, 1217-1232).

In this paper Rubin gives ranges in mol%Fa and %Co in kamacite
for H, L, and LL chondrites. Jeff should have more about that.

Good night
from Germany,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] News Release Arizona

2002-01-25 Thread Rick Nowak


NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. 
I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe
 someone
 in the community would like to take advantage of
 this
 before the general public does.Will the papers
 print?
 I can't say but
 
 NEWS RELEASE
 
 Dear Editor,
 
 Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to
 thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is
 information
 that will make a great story and lead to the
 possible
 recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon
 thousands of dollars.
 
 From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127
 
 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of
 the
 most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me
 in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a
 bar
 on one of my customary tours of community hangouts
 seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I
 laid
 a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who
 was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over
 carefully. Are they worth anything? I told him
 they
were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if
 gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed
 to the cigarer vending machine. I found one as big
as
 that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years
 ago. He stroked the little specimen before him on
 the
 counter. It was iron just like that, and had dents
 in
 it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer
 it
 sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very
 same thing. He had been a surveyor at the time and
 was running a line for the government. He told me
 what
 line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't
 cross
 and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where
 it
 could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this
 great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or
 money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the
 time,
 and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I
 lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's
 name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead,
 having him guide me to the spot. The territory in
 which he was working is seldom visited by anyone
 except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years
 before another man see that great iron-if it really
 exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated
 in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a
 hundred
 yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud.
 Few of the productive tales were more convincing
 than
 this man's reports. It is my believe he had found
 Arizona's finest meteorite.
 
 CONCLUSIONS
 
 The line was a Government line not a state line. the
 surveyor was working for the Government.
 
 The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day
 driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out
 meteorite and 1 day going home.
 
 Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with
 an
 Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the
 area. Do the Indians allow the general public to
 hunt
 their land?
 
Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/
 
 and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only
 Government lines arew Indian reservations and the
 Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940
 minus 15 equals 1925
 
 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand
 Canyon
 running East and West during the year of 1925 and
 not
 the modern day lines

 Best of success to all Rick
 
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[meteorite-list] News Release Arizona

2002-01-25 Thread Rick Nowak


--- Rick Nowak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. 
 
 I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe
 someone
 in the community would like to take advantage of
 this
 before the general public does.Will the papers
 print?
 I can't say but
 
 NEWS RELEASE
 
 Dear Editor,
 
 Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to
 thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is
 information
 that will make a great story and lead to the
 possible
 recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon
 thousands of dollars.
 
 From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127
 
 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of
 the
 most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me
 in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a
 bar
 on one of my customary tours of community hangouts
 seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I
 laid
 a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who
 was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over
 carefully. Are they worth anything? I told him
 they
 were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if
 gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed
 to the cigarer vending machine. I found one as big
 as
 that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years
 ago. He stroked the little specimen before him on
 the
 counter. It was iron just like that, and had dents
 in
 it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer
 it
 sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very
 same thing. He had been a surveyor at the time and
 was running a line for the government. He told me
 what
 line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't
 cross
 and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where
 it
 could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this
 great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or
 money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the
 time,
 and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I
 lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's
 name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead,
 having him guide me to the spot. The territory in
 which he was working is seldom visited by anyone
 except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years
 before another man see that great iron-if it really
 exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated
 in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a
 hundred
 yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud.
 Few of the productive tales were more convincing
 than
 this man's reports. It is my believe he had found
 Arizona's finest meteorite.
 
 CONCLUSIONS
 
 The line was a Government line not a state line. the
 surveyor was working for the Government.
 
 The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day
 driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out
 meteorite and 1 day going home.
 
 Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with
 an
 Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the
 area. Do the Indians allow the general public to
 hunt
 their land?
 
 Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/
 
 and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only
 Government lines arew Indian reservations and the
 Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940
 minus 15 equals 1925
 
 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand
 Canyon
 running East and West during the year of 1925 and
 not
 the modern day lines
 
 Best of success to all Rick
 
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[meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla

2002-01-25 Thread Matson, Robert

Hi Ron and List,

Regarding the Nakhla re-wording:

A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt.  The
falls
were preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local
residents.  There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a
dog.  Attempts to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus
far.

Given what I've read of the debate over the years, and the lack of
living witnesses, I cannot imagine a scenario under which that last
statement will ever change.  Of course, that doesn't rule out the
possibility that some new information may surface months or years
down the road; it's just that I can't see how any such new data
would enhance the currently dubious authenticity.  As with the
argument for life on Mars, extraordinary claims require accordingly
extraordinary evidence.

I think it would be more accurate to say, Unfortunately, the story
cannot be authenticated as there were no corroborating witnesses, nor
compelling physical evidence.

The term eyewitness account also carries special legal meaning today --
with requirements that were obviously not met at the time.  While Ron
probably did not intend this particular legal connotation, but rather
the spirit of the phrase (i.e. a man told someone else that he saw
a meteorite hit a dog), eyewitness account is a somewhat misleading
substitute for hearsay.

Perhaps the most useful (and rewarding) thing that could be done at
this point would be to go to Denshal (I didn't say it would be cheap!)
and find a Nakhla meteorite there.  It wouldn't add much in the way
of proof as far as the dog story goes, but it ~would~ greatly extend
the accepted length of the strewnfield.  Even if you don't find a
~Nakhla~ meteorite, given the desert location your chances are quite
good that you'll find other meteorites while searching.

--Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money

2002-01-25 Thread meteorite1.net



OH ok now I see, MC is ameteorite/coin 
dealing turtle racing evangelist who eats expensive minerals  shares them 
with animals...this could explain many things, or not.

Sincerely,Jim

James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member 
contact)

Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Casper 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:13 
  AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Subject: 
  Money
  
  Subject: 
  MoneyMoney. 
  It can buy a Bed But not 
  Sleep It can buy a 
  Clock But not 
  Time It can buy you a 
  Book But not 
  Knowledge It can buy you a 
  Position But not 
  Respect It can buy you 
  Medicine But not 
  Health It can buy you 
  Blood But not 
  Life It can buy you 
  Sex But not 
  Love So you see money isn't 
  everything. And it often causes pain and 
  suffering. I tell you all this because I am 
  your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your 
  pain and suffering So send me all your 
  money and I will suffer for you. Cash is 
  fine.
  
   xoxox, MC
  
  


Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Casper



Mr. Hartman! Thank you! I now beleive that there is 
hope for the list!

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox, MC



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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:11 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: 
  Money
  
  OH ok now I see, MC is ameteorite/coin 
  dealing turtle racing evangelist who eats expensive minerals  shares them 
  with animals...this could explain many things, or 
not.
  
  Sincerely,Jim
  
  James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member 
  contact)
  
  Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org
  
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:13 
AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Subject: 
Money

Subject: 
MoneyMoney. 
It can buy a Bed But not 
Sleep It can buy a 
Clock But not 
Time It can buy you a 
Book But not 
Knowledge It can buy you a 
Position But not 
Respect It can buy you 
Medicine But not 
Health It can buy you 
Blood But not 
Life It can buy you 
Sex But not 
Love So you see money isn't 
everything. And it often causes pain and 
suffering. I tell you all this because I am 
your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your 
pain and suffering So send me all your 
money and I will suffer for you. Cash is 
fine.

 xoxox, MC




[meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Cottingham



Knock! Knock!


Who is there?

Knock A La !

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La.. you know.
the talking dog that was
hit by a piece of
mars!

Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog 
writting)

Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a 
meteorite?

Knock A La says... Yes!

Where is the stone now?

Knock A La . I ate 
it!


Knock A La ? Yes ?

Who is buried in Grants tomb?

Knock A La says... I don't 
know!


OR


Knock! Knock!

Who is there?

Knock A La!

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La ..fella around some
and maybe you will
believe!



OR

Ha Ha Ha Ha






Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Casper



Mr. Cottingham. I see that the mushroom crop is 
good this year.

 *$#%*#, MC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Cottingham 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:47 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] knock 
  knock
  
  Knock! Knock!
  
  
  Who is there?
  
  Knock A La !
  
  Knock A La, Who?
  
  Knock A La.. you know.
  the talking dog that was
  hit by a piece of
  mars!
  
  Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog 
  writting)
  
  Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a 
  meteorite?
  
  Knock A La says... Yes!
  
  Where is the stone now?
  
  Knock A La . I ate 
  it!
  
  
  Knock A La ? Yes ?
  
  Who is buried in Grants tomb?
  
  Knock A La says... I don't 
  know!
  
  
  OR
  
  
  Knock! Knock!
  
  Who is there?
  
  Knock A La!
  
  Knock A La, Who?
  
  Knock A La ..fella around some
  and maybe you will
  believe!
  
  
  
  OR
  
  Ha Ha Ha Ha
  
  
  
  


Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Cottingham



I don't like mushrooms
they make me sneeze
I also don't do drugs...
and maybe that is
my problem!

?@!*)^+_!? 
Michael

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael 
  Casper 
  To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock 
  knock
  
  Mr. Cottingham. I see that the mushroom crop is 
  good this year.
  
   *$#%*#, MC
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Michael 
Cottingham 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:47 
PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] knock 
knock

Knock! Knock!


Who is there?

Knock A La !

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La.. you 
know.
the talking dog that was
hit by a piece of
mars!

Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog 
writting)

Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a 
meteorite?

Knock A La says... Yes!

Where is the stone now?

Knock A La . I ate 
it!


Knock A La ? Yes ?

Who is buried in Grants tomb?

Knock A La says... I don't 
know!


OR


Knock! Knock!

Who is there?

Knock A La!

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La ..fella around 
some
and maybe you will
believe!



OR

Ha Ha Ha Ha






[meteorite-list] Nakhla...I just wanted to believe

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Cottingham



Nakhla

I just wanted to believe

I just wanted to believe in something

Nakhla 

Now I have nothing

Oh my Oh my

Nakhla


"Get you filthy paws off me you Damn Dirty 
Apes"

C. Heston (Planet of The Apes the 
original)

I thought the 1st Planet Of The Apes was much 
better
than the remake! How about you?


Michael


Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread John Gwilliam

So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of Jack
Daniels?;-)

John

At 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael Cottingham wrote:
Knock!
Knock!


Who is there?

Knock A La !

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La .. you know.
the talking dog that was
hit by a piece of
mars!

Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog
writting)

Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a
meteorite?

Knock A La says... Yes!

Where is the stone now?

Knock A La . I ate
it!


Knock A La ? Yes ?

Who is buried in Grants tomb?

Knock A La says ... I don't
know!


OR


Knock! Knock!

Who is there?

Knock A La!

Knock A La, Who?

Knock A La ..fella around
some
and maybe you will
believe!



OR

Ha Ha Ha Ha




John Gwilliam Meteorites
PO Box 26854
Tempe AZ 85285
http://www.meteoriteimpact.com



Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Cottingham



I don't drink alcohol

this is pure heart-felt poetry

Michael

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John 
  Gwilliam 
  To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock 
  knock
  So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of 
  Jack Daniels?;-)JohnAt 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael 
  Cottingham wrote:
  Knock! 
Knock!Who is 
there?Knock A La 
!Knock A La, 
Who?Knock A La .. you 
know.the talking dog that washit by a piece 
ofmars!Knock A La (spelled Nakhla 
in dog writting)Knock A La 
? Were you really hit by a meteorite?Knock A La says... Yes!Where is the stone now?Knock A La . I ate 
it!Knock A La ? 
Yes ?Who is buried in Grants 
tomb?Knock A La says 
... I don't know!ORKnock! 
Knock!Who is 
there?Knock A 
La!Knock A La, 
Who?Knock A La ..fella 
around someand maybe you 
willbelieve!ORHa Ha Ha 
Ha
  John Gwilliam Meteorites
  PO Box 26854
  Tempe AZ 85285http://www.meteoriteimpact.com 


Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread Tracy Latimer

P-U!!! (genteely holding nose)

I'm going to try to find a higher caliber of jokes for this site.  Prolly
.45, all things considered.  Maybe elephant gun.

Tracy Latimer


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Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread meteorite1.net



Just the label!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John 
  Gwilliam 
  To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock 
  knock
  So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of 
  Jack Daniels?;-)JohnAt 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael 
  Cottingham wrote:
  Knock! 
Knock!Who is 
there?Knock A La 
!Knock A La, 
Who?Knock A La .. you 
know.the talking dog that washit by a piece 
ofmars!Knock A La (spelled Nakhla 
in dog writting)Knock A La 
? Were you really hit by a meteorite?Knock A La says... Yes!Where is the stone now?Knock A La . I ate 
it!Knock A La ? 
Yes ?Who is buried in Grants 
tomb?Knock A La says 
... I don't know!ORKnock! 
Knock!Who is 
there?Knock A 
La!Knock A La, 
Who?Knock A La ..fella 
around someand maybe you 
willbelieve!ORHa Ha Ha 
Ha
  John Gwilliam Meteorites
  PO Box 26854
  Tempe AZ 85285http://www.meteoriteimpact.com 


RE: [meteorite-list] News Release Arizona

2002-01-25 Thread Rhett Bourland

Something tells me you're not exactly the first person in Arizona to go
looking for meteorites or even offering rewards for them...

Rhett Bourland
www.asteroidmodels.com
www.asteroidmodels.com/personal
www.meteoritecollectors.org

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick
Nowak
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] News Release Arizona



NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC.
I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe
 someone
 in the community would like to take advantage of
 this
 before the general public does.Will the papers
 print?
 I can't say but

 NEWS RELEASE

 Dear Editor,

 Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to
 thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is
 information
 that will make a great story and lead to the
 possible
 recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon
 thousands of dollars.

 From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127

 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of
 the
 most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me
 in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a
 bar
 on one of my customary tours of community hangouts
 seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I
 laid
 a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who
 was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over
 carefully. Are they worth anything? I told him
 they
were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if
 gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed
 to the cigarer vending machine. I found one as big
as
 that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years
 ago. He stroked the little specimen before him on
 the
 counter. It was iron just like that, and had dents
 in
 it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer
 it
 sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very
 same thing. He had been a surveyor at the time and
 was running a line for the government. He told me
 what
 line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't
 cross
 and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where
 it
 could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this
 great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or
 money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the
 time,
 and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I
 lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's
 name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead,
 having him guide me to the spot. The territory in
 which he was working is seldom visited by anyone
 except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years
 before another man see that great iron-if it really
 exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated
 in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a
 hundred
 yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud.
 Few of the productive tales were more convincing
 than
 this man's reports. It is my believe he had found
 Arizona's finest meteorite.

 CONCLUSIONS

 The line was a Government line not a state line. the
 surveyor was working for the Government.

 The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day
 driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out
 meteorite and 1 day going home.

 Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with
 an
 Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the
 area. Do the Indians allow the general public to
 hunt
 their land?

Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/

 and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only
 Government lines arew Indian reservations and the
 Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940
 minus 15 equals 1925

 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand
 Canyon
 running East and West during the year of 1925 and
 not
 the modern day lines

 Best of success to all Rick

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[meteorite-list] Ebay Meteorwrong!

2002-01-25 Thread magellon


All,
Can you believe this?
METEORITES
AUTHENIC GURANTEED
Must be one of Mohamed's friends?
(When this person is not classifying meteorites, he works
as a spelling editor!)
Ken Newton


Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock

2002-01-25 Thread FERNLEA4

In a message dated 25/01/02 23:52:28 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 Knock!  Knock! 
 Who is there? 
 Knock A La ! 
 Knock A La, Who? 
 Knock A La .. you know.
 the talking dog that was
 hit by a piece of
 mars!
  Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) 

It started badly, tailed off a bit in the middle, and the less said about the 
ending the better.
By the 5th line, I'd completely lost the will to live!

Sorry Michael ;-)

Ever-so-depressed-now Rob E.

http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html
Fernlea Meteorites,
The Wynd,
Off Dickson Lane,
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Re: [meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla

2002-01-25 Thread David Weir


Matson, Robert wrote:
 
 Hi Ron and List,
 
 Regarding the Nakhla re-wording:
 
 A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt. The
 falls were preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, 
 frightening local residents. There is an eyewitness account that one of 
 the fragments hit a dog. Attempts to authenticate the dog story have been 
 inconclusive thus far.

I think that removing the most sensational portion of this story, that 
the dog was actually killed by the meteorite, renders the story more
believable. By contrast, knowing the full story makes me more apt to
disbelieve the whole dog event ever happened at all. 

David

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[meteorite-list] Mars Meteorites on CNN

2002-01-25 Thread Dean Langadas



Hi guys:

Just spotted this on cnn.com, a nice bit 
ofpublicity just before the Gem Show ...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/01/24/mars.rocks/index.html


[meteorite-list] Fwd: Thank You

2002-01-25 Thread SSachs9056

 

---BeginMessage---

Steve 

Thank you very much for your letter. Where allowed to
make mistakes and we all should have a place for
understanding and forgivness. And when a person goes
out of their way like you have you can only admire
them more. Steve if you had such reseacrh on Plymouth
my goodness some type type of compesation would need
to be given to you. Have you ever heard of the
Chesapeake the billion dollar gold treasure ship?
The research was so good that they literally dropped
the anchor on the ship the first day looking for it.
Thousands of hours and millions of dollars were saved
all due to research. I would like to talk to my
associate and see what we can offer you in return for
your research. Sometimes thou all the research in the
world can be futile and just plain back breaking foot
by foot work needs to be done. 

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[meteorite-list] Why is the sky blue?

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Casper



A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because 
molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red 
light. When we look towards the sun at sunset we see red and orange colours 
because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight. 



Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Meteorwrong!

2002-01-25 Thread Matteo Chinellato

Hahahahha.Oh My God.for me is good write to
Ebay for inform of this false meteorite.
Regards


Matteo

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 All,
 Can you believe this?
  METEORITES AUTHENIC GURANTEED
 Must be one of Mohamed's friends?
 (When this person is not classifying meteorites, he
 works
 as a spelling editor!)
 Ken Newton
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla

2002-01-25 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 1/25/2002 4:31:49 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Perhaps the most useful (and rewarding) thing that could be done at
this point would be to go to Denshal (I didn't say it would be cheap!)
and find a Nakhla meteorite there. It wouldn't add much in the way
of proof as far as the dog story goes, but it ~would~ greatly extend
the accepted length of the strewnfield. Even if you don't find a
~Nakhla~ meteorite, given the desert location your chances are quite
good that you'll find other meteorites while searching.



Direct quote from Alain Carion:
"I have tried to find the exact impact site but some 50cm of the top-soil has been removed in that area to be spread on the desert and fertilize it".


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[meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take

2002-01-25 Thread Meteoriteman

 WOW

   
No kidding.
Jake

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Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Farmer

Why don't we sick Rick Nowak on the Nakhla saga, he knows all the other
ones, he shoudl be able to find some Nakhla in a week or so of searching.
Mike
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:32 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take


  WOW


 No kidding.
 Jake

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