Re: [meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take
Why don't we sick Rick Nowak on the Nakhla saga, he knows all the other ones, he shoudl be able to find some Nakhla in a week or so of searching. Mike - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:32 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take > WOW > > > No kidding. > Jake > > Jake Delgaudio > The Nature Source > Meteorites and Fossils > Queensbury, NEW YORK 12804 > website: www.nature-source.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone:(518) 761-6702 > Fax; (518) 798-9107 > Proud member of: > The Meteoritical Society and > The Paleontological Suppliers of America > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nakhla/ My take
WOW No kidding. Jake Jake Delgaudio The Nature Source Meteorites and Fossils Queensbury, NEW YORK 12804 website: www.nature-source.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(518) 761-6702 Fax; (518) 798-9107 Proud member of: The Meteoritical Society and The Paleontological Suppliers of America __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla
In a message dated 1/25/2002 4:31:49 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the most useful (and rewarding) thing that could be done at this point would be to go to Denshal (I didn't say it would be cheap!) and find a Nakhla meteorite there. It wouldn't add much in the way of proof as far as the dog story goes, but it ~would~ greatly extend the accepted length of the strewnfield. Even if you don't find a ~Nakhla~ meteorite, given the desert location your chances are quite good that you'll find other meteorites while searching. Direct quote from Alain Carion: "I have tried to find the exact impact site but some 50cm of the top-soil has been removed in that area to be spread on the desert and fertilize it". Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Meteorwrong!
Hahahahha.Oh My God.for me is good write to Ebay for inform of this false meteorite. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All, > Can you believe this? > METEORITES AUTHENIC GURANTEED > Must be one of Mohamed's friends? > (When this person is not classifying meteorites, he > works > as a spelling editor!) > Ken Newton > = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Why is the sky blue?
A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset we see red and orange colours because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight.
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Thank You
--- Begin Message --- Steve Thank you very much for your letter. Where allowed to make mistakes and we all should have a place for understanding and forgivness. And when a person goes out of their way like you have you can only admire them more. Steve if you had such reseacrh on Plymouth my goodness some type type of compesation would need to be given to you. Have you ever heard of the "Chesapeake" the billion dollar gold treasure ship? The research was so good that they literally dropped the anchor on the ship the first day looking for it. Thousands of hours and millions of dollars were saved all due to research. I would like to talk to my associate and see what we can offer you in return for your research. Sometimes thou all the research in the world can be futile and just plain back breaking foot by foot work needs to be done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com --- End Message ---
[meteorite-list] Mars Meteorites on CNN
Hi guys: Just spotted this on cnn.com, a nice bit of publicity just before the Gem Show ... http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/01/24/mars.rocks/index.html
[meteorite-list] Re: New Naklha Dog Evidence
> > The quote describing the circumstances of the fall contains a datum which is >testable and > could yield information: > > "The fearful column which appeared in the sky at Denshal > was substantial. The terrific noise it emitted was an > explosion which made it erupt in several fragments of > volcanic materials. These curious fragments, falling to earth > buried themselves into the sand to the depth of about one metre." > > Someone somewhere with more specific engineering experience ought to be able to >tell us > what velocity is necessary to drive a small rock fragment one meter deep in sand. >More > velocity, I would assume, than would be necessary to drive a bullet a meter deep in >sand, since > a bullet is shaped to penetrate and a meteorite isn't. > Are there any ballistics experts among us who could tell us what size (and >speed) of bullet > penetrates a meter in loose sand? You bring up a good point. It turns out a similar report about meteorites penetrating to a 1 meter depth came also from El Nakhla: "this explosion was followed by vapour and a fall of black stones... which penetrated the earth to a depth of a metre" While I had pointed out that William Hume did not do any fieldwork in Denshal, he did do excellent job of documentation of the meteorites found in El Nakhla. It turns out no meteorite in El Nakhla penetrated any deeper than 30 cm into the ground. So, why the discrepancy? Do we just discount the account entirely, and attribute this as a product of a lively imagination? Or do we just allow for a little leeway in some of the accounts, as it is obvious they did witness the meteorite fall. I'd say the latter. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla
"Matson, Robert" wrote: > > Hi Ron and List, > > Regarding the Nakhla re-wording: > > "A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt. The > falls were preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, > frightening local residents. There is an eyewitness account that one of > the fragments hit a dog. Attempts to authenticate the dog story have been > inconclusive thus far." I think that removing the most sensational portion of this story, that the dog was actually killed by the meteorite, renders the story more believable. By contrast, knowing the full story makes me more apt to disbelieve the whole dog event ever happened at all. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Vaccuum-Packed Campos
All, Recently I bought a 100 g lot of Campo fragments from a dealer on eBay. He used the user name "Enchanted Treasures." (In fact, some discussion of belly-dancing was sparked by this gentleman's self-introduction to the list.) The Campo fragments are all 1-2 g each and apparently were tumbled - all are nice and shiny. When they arrived I was surprised to see a small factory sealed package. No zip-lock style bag here. In fact, the meteorites are double bagged and clearly were vacuum-packed like ground coffee. Has anyone seen this before? I'm just curious now about the process and who might be doing it. I was going to sell the little campos for a couple of dollars each in the gift shop of my observatory, but the bag looks so nifty I may not have the heart to open it up! Bob MartinoCan you really name a star? http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ "I look up to the heavens but night has clouded over no spark of constellation no Vela no Orion." -Enya __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] "Falling Stars" Book Correction/Nakhla Meteorites
Jan. 25, 2002 Greetings Meteorite Enthusiasts! Just a quick note to say that the meteorite prices listed in the book "Falling Stars" that I had spoken of in my recent post are not "average" prices. A kind list member pointed out that they represented the lowest and the highest prices paid for the space rocks, if I am not mistaken. I hope I have not confused anybody. By the way, why doesn't someone ask Mr. Robert Haag for information about his hunts for Nakhla meteorites in Egypt? A good chance he may know a lot about what transpired there during the time of the meteorite fall. His expedition is mentioned in the famous book "Rocks From Space", and I recall Mr. Haag interviewing an old man that almost was supposedly struck by one of the Martian stones! Thus, Mr. Haag may know of previously uninterviewed witnesses. Long strewn fields! Mark Fox Newaygo, MI USA __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
In a message dated 25/01/02 23:52:28 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know. the talking dog that was hit by a piece of mars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) >> It started badly, tailed off a bit in the middle, and the less said about the ending the better. By the 5th line, I'd completely lost the will to live! Sorry Michael ;-) Ever-so-depressed-now Rob E. http://fernlea.tripod.com/forsale.html Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Meteorwrong!
All, Can you believe this? METEORITES AUTHENIC GURANTEED Must be one of Mohamed's friends? (When this person is not classifying meteorites, he works as a spelling editor!) Ken Newton
RE: [meteorite-list] News Release Arizona
Something tells me you're not exactly the first person in Arizona to go looking for meteorites or even offering rewards for them... Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Nowak Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] News Release Arizona NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe someone in the community would like to take advantage of this before the general public does.Will the papers print? I can't say but NEWS RELEASE Dear Editor, Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is information that will make a great story and lead to the possible recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon thousands of dollars. From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of the most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a bar on one of my customary tours of community hangouts seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I laid a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over carefully. "Are they worth anything?" I told him they were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed to the cigarer vending machine. "I found one as big as that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years ago." He stroked the little specimen before him on the counter. "It was iron just like that, and had dents in it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer it sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very same thing." He had been a surveyor at the time and was running a line for the government. He told me what line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't cross and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where it could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the time, and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead, having him guide me to the spot. The territory in which he was working is seldom visited by anyone except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years before another man see that great iron-if it really exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a hundred yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud. Few of the productive tales were more convincing than this man's reports. It is my believe he had found Arizona's finest meteorite. CONCLUSIONS The line was a Government line not a state line. the surveyor was working for the Government. The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out meteorite and 1 day going home. Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with an Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the area. Do the Indians allow the general public to hunt their land? Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/ and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only Government lines arew Indian reservations and the Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940 minus 15 equals 1925 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand Canyon running East and West during the year of 1925 and not the modern day lines Best of success to all Rick __ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Georgiaites
Greetings fellow list members,
I have been contacted by a fellow in Georgia who is a major, big
time Georigiaite finder. He asked me to sell some of his finds, and
man, are they ever neet! (I told him I would not sell any broken or
chipped ones {which are the majority in existence, since they have
almost exclusively been found in fields after having been turned up
by a plow} and he did not disappoint me.
If you collect tektites, you know how very, very rare this material
is.
I thought yall might enjoy seeing these cuties. If any of you are
interested in getting one or more, contact me off list for full info. (I
have been having intermittant email problems, so, if you dont hear
back from me within, say, 12 hrs, please phone me at: 619 286-4837)
Thanks, Michael
4.032g
Found June 29, 2001 at 3:58 PM in S & Ms Field in Dodge County,
GA - includes original hand written field notes of finder. Chips:
minimal or
non existent.
This little guy is a beaut! Even by reflected light, it shows nearly
50%
transparency - VERY unusual for a Georgiaite. It has the advantage of
displaying classical characteristics of its type in color, form and
texture.
By Reflected light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos207/3/91/74/46/55/0/55467491303_0_ALB.jpg
By Transmitted light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos207/3/91/74/46/45/0/45467491303_0_ALB.jpg
6.447g
Found in Dodge County, GA. Chips: minimal or non existent.
This is the ONLY tear drop shaped Georgiaite I have ever seen. It has
the shape of an elongated Hersheys Kiss. It is a sweet one. Also
excellent
specimen and classic in color and transparency.
By Reflected light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/90/0/90440802303_0_ALB.jpg
By Transmitted light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/11/0/11440802303_0_ALB.jpg
10.57g
Found in Dodge County, GA. Chips: minimal or non existent.
I liken this one to a cave man club - not tapered on the thin end to
make a classic tear drop. It is particularly charming in being
completely
opaque by reflected light and superbly translucent by transmitted light.
In addition, this specimen exhibits a twisted formation process,
particularly noticeable in transmitted light. (see photos below)
By Reflected light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/50/0/50440802303_0_ALB.jpg
By Transmitted light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/30/0/30440802303_0_ALB.jpg
11.37g
Found April 3, 1997, Dodge County, GA. Hand written Field Notes
included. Chips: minimal or non existent. Healed, ancient broken
edge.
This is a magnificent heart shaped specimen with exceptional
translucency and overall visual appeal.
By Reflected light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/60/0/60440802303_0_ALB.jpg
By Transmitted light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/8/44/70/0/70440802303_0_ALB.jpg
Healed ancient broken edge:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos205/3/2/59/91/31/0/31915902303_0_ALB.jpg
15.29g
Found in Dodge County, GA. Chips: minimal - 2, very small on top of
healed, ancient broken edge.
Spectacular specimen. Georgiaites this huge are very, very rare. This
one has exceptional scoriation and the form is a pleasing shield
appearance.
This one also exhibits truly exceptional translucency by transmitted
light.
By Reflected light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos207/3/91/74/46/15/0/15467491303_0_ALB.jpg
By Transmitted light:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos207/3/91/74/46/25/0/25467491303_0_ALB.jpg
Healed ancient broken edge:
http://images.ofoto.com/photos207/3/91/74/46/35/0/35467491303_0_ALB.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
Just the label! - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of Jack Daniels?;-)JohnAt 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael Cottingham wrote: Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know.the talking dog that washit by a piece ofmars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around someand maybe you willbelieve! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285http://www.meteoriteimpact.com
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
P-U!!! (genteely holding nose) I'm going to try to find a higher caliber of jokes for this site. Prolly .45, all things considered. Maybe elephant gun. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
I don't drink alcohol this is pure heart-felt poetry Michael - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of Jack Daniels?;-)JohnAt 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael Cottingham wrote: Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know.the talking dog that washit by a piece ofmars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around someand maybe you willbelieve! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285http://www.meteoriteimpact.com
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
So Michaelis there anything left of that gallon bottle of Jack Daniels?;-) John At 04:47 PM 1/25/02 -0700, Michael Cottingham wrote: Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know. the talking dog that was hit by a piece of mars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around some and maybe you will believe! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285 http://www.meteoriteimpact.com
[meteorite-list] Nakhla...I just wanted to believe
Nakhla I just wanted to believe I just wanted to believe in something Nakhla Now I have nothing Oh my Oh my Nakhla "Get you filthy paws off me you Damn Dirty Apes" C. Heston (Planet of The Apes the original) I thought the 1st Planet Of The Apes was much better than the remake! How about you? Michael
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
I don't like mushrooms they make me sneeze I also don't do drugs... and maybe that is my problem! ?@!*)^+_ Michael - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: Michael Cottingham ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock Mr. Cottingham. I see that the mushroom crop is good this year. *$#%*#, MC - Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] knock knock Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know. the talking dog that was hit by a piece of mars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around some and maybe you will believe! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha
Re: [meteorite-list] knock knock
Mr. Cottingham. I see that the mushroom crop is good this year. *$#%*#, MC - Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] knock knock Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know. the talking dog that was hit by a piece of mars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around some and maybe you will believe! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha
[meteorite-list] knock knock
Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La ! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La .. you know. the talking dog that was hit by a piece of mars! Knock A La (spelled Nakhla in dog writting) Knock A La ? Were you really hit by a meteorite? Knock A La says... Yes! Where is the stone now? Knock A La . I ate it! Knock A La ? Yes ? Who is buried in Grants tomb? Knock A La says ... I don't know! OR Knock! Knock! Who is there? Knock A La! Knock A La, Who? Knock A La ..fella around some and maybe you will believe! OR Ha Ha Ha Ha
Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money
Mr. Hartman! Thank you! I now beleive that there is hope for the list! xoxoxoxoxoxoxox, MC - Original Message - From: meteorite1.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money OH ok now I see, MC is a meteorite/coin dealing turtle racing evangelist who eats expensive minerals & shares them with animals...this could explain many things, or not. Sincerely,Jim James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money Subject: MoneyMoney. It can buy a Bed But not Sleep It can buy a Clock But not Time It can buy you a Book But not Knowledge It can buy you a Position But not Respect It can buy you Medicine But not Health It can buy you Blood But not Life It can buy you Sex But not Love So you see money isn't everything. And it often causes pain and suffering. I tell you all this because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your pain and suffering So send me all your money and I will suffer for you. Cash is fine. xoxox, MC
Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money
OH ok now I see, MC is a meteorite/coin dealing turtle racing evangelist who eats expensive minerals & shares them with animals...this could explain many things, or not. Sincerely,Jim James Hartman[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.meteorite1.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) Authenticity Guaranteedwww.meteoritecollectors.org - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Subject: Money Subject: MoneyMoney. It can buy a Bed But not Sleep It can buy a Clock But not Time It can buy you a Book But not Knowledge It can buy you a Position But not Respect It can buy you Medicine But not Health It can buy you Blood But not Life It can buy you Sex But not Love So you see money isn't everything. And it often causes pain and suffering. I tell you all this because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your pain and suffering So send me all your money and I will suffer for you. Cash is fine. xoxox, MC
[meteorite-list] My take on Nakhla
Hi Ron and List, Regarding the Nakhla re-wording: "A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt. The falls were preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local residents. There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a dog. Attempts to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus far." Given what I've read of the debate over the years, and the lack of living witnesses, I cannot imagine a scenario under which that last statement will ever change. Of course, that doesn't rule out the possibility that some new information may surface months or years down the road; it's just that I can't see how any such new data would enhance the currently dubious authenticity. As with the argument for life on Mars, extraordinary claims require accordingly extraordinary evidence. I think it would be more accurate to say, "Unfortunately, the story cannot be authenticated as there were no corroborating witnesses, nor compelling physical evidence." The term "eyewitness account" also carries special legal meaning today -- with requirements that were obviously not met at the time. While Ron probably did not intend this particular legal connotation, but rather the "spirit" of the phrase (i.e. a man told someone else that he saw a meteorite hit a dog), "eyewitness account" is a somewhat misleading substitute for "hearsay". Perhaps the most useful (and rewarding) thing that could be done at this point would be to go to Denshal (I didn't say it would be cheap!) and find a Nakhla meteorite there. It wouldn't add much in the way of proof as far as the dog story goes, but it ~would~ greatly extend the accepted length of the strewnfield. Even if you don't find a ~Nakhla~ meteorite, given the desert location your chances are quite good that you'll find other meteorites while searching. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] News Release Arizona
--- Rick Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. > > I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe > someone > in the community would like to take advantage of > this > before the general public does.Will the papers > print? > I can't say but > > NEWS RELEASE > > Dear Editor, > > Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to > thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is > information > that will make a great story and lead to the > possible > recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon > thousands of dollars. > > From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127 > > There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of > the > most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me > in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a > bar > on one of my customary tours of community hangouts > seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I > laid > a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who > was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over > carefully. "Are they worth anything?" I told him > they > were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if > gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed > to the cigarer vending machine. "I found one as big > as > that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years > ago." He stroked the little specimen before him on > the > counter. "It was iron just like that, and had dents > in > it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer > it > sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very > same thing." He had been a surveyor at the time and > was running a line for the government. He told me > what > line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't > cross > and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where > it > could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this > great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or > money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the > time, > and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I > lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's > name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead, > having him guide me to the spot. The territory in > which he was working is seldom visited by anyone > except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years > before another man see that great iron-if it really > exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated > in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a > hundred > yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud. > Few of the productive tales were more convincing > than > this man's reports. It is my believe he had found > Arizona's finest meteorite. > > CONCLUSIONS > > The line was a Government line not a state line. the > surveyor was working for the Government. > > The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day > driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out > meteorite and 1 day going home. > > Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with > an > Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the > area. Do the Indians allow the general public to > hunt > their land? > > Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/ > > and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only > Government lines arew Indian reservations and the > Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940 > minus 15 equals 1925 > > FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand > Canyon > running East and West during the year of 1925 and > not > the modern day lines > > Best of success to all Rick > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! > http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] News Release Arizona
NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe someone in the community would like to take advantage of this before the general public does.Will the papers print? I can't say but NEWS RELEASE Dear Editor, Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is information that will make a great story and lead to the possible recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon thousands of dollars. From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of the most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a bar on one of my customary tours of community hangouts seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I laid a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over carefully. "Are they worth anything?" I told him they were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed to the cigarer vending machine. "I found one as big as that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years ago." He stroked the little specimen before him on the counter. "It was iron just like that, and had dents in it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer it sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very same thing." He had been a surveyor at the time and was running a line for the government. He told me what line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't cross and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where it could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the time, and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead, having him guide me to the spot. The territory in which he was working is seldom visited by anyone except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years before another man see that great iron-if it really exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a hundred yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud. Few of the productive tales were more convincing than this man's reports. It is my believe he had found Arizona's finest meteorite. CONCLUSIONS The line was a Government line not a state line. the surveyor was working for the Government. The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out meteorite and 1 day going home. Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with an Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the area. Do the Indians allow the general public to hunt their land? Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/ and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only Government lines arew Indian reservations and the Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940 minus 15 equals 1925 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand Canyon running East and West during the year of 1925 and not the modern day lines Best of success to all Rick __ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] News Release Arizona
NEWS RELEASE ARIZONA UNKNOWN TO GENERAL PUBLIC. I sent this out to 5 Arizona Newspapers. Maybe someone in the community would like to take advantage of this before the general public does.Will the papers print? I can't say but NEWS RELEASE Dear Editor, Meteorites are worth anywhere from % cents a gram to thousands of dollars per gram. Enclosed is information that will make a great story and lead to the possible recovery of a lost meteorite. Worth thousands upon thousands of dollars. From Find A Falling Star Harvey Nininger page 127 There were so many tantalizing reports, and one of the most intriguing and convincing was a tale told to me in Prescott Arizona about 1940. I had gone into a bar on one of my customary tours of community hangouts seeking likely individuals with likely stories. I laid a nickel-iron meteorite on the bar beside a man who was drinking a bottle of beer. He looked it over carefully. "Are they worth anything?" I told him they were. He stood, looking past me for a moment, as if gathering details out of his memory. then he pointed to the cigarer vending machine. "I found one as big as that machine one time, but it's been fifteen years ago." He stroked the little specimen before him on the counter. "It was iron just like that, and had dents in it just like that, and when I hit it with my hammer it sounded just like an anvil. I know it was the very same thing." He had been a surveyor at the time and was running a line for the government. He told me what line it was. They came to a ravine they couldn't cross and he had gone south about a quarter mile to where it could be negotiated-and there in the ditch was this great hunk of iron. Neither he nor I had the time or money to make a ten day trip to the spot at the time, and I never was able to contact him again. Somehow I lost the notes I scribbled down, including the man's name. I had fully intended to follow up this lead, having him guide me to the spot. The territory in which he was working is seldom visited by anyone except deer hunters, and it may be a hundred years before another man see that great iron-if it really exists. Of all the hundred of reports I investigated in my years of meteorite hunting, more than a hundred yielded meteorites, and the other hundreds were dud. Few of the productive tales were more convincing than this man's reports. It is my believe he had found Arizona's finest meteorite. CONCLUSIONS The line was a Government line not a state line. the surveyor was working for the Government. The line must be very long. Needed 1o days 1 day driving 2 days walking line 6 days pulling out meteorite and 1 day going home. Nininger did not recall he would have to deal with an Indian council. Public hunting was allowed in the area. Do the Indians allow the general public to hunt their land? Go to www.arizonaroads.com/maps/ and look at the 1927 Arizona highway map. The only Government lines arew Indian reservations and the Grand canyon. The surveyor said 16 years ago 1940 minus 15 equals 1925 FOCUS should be on the North line of the Grand Canyon running East and West during the year of 1925 and not the modern day lines Best of success to all Rick __ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing
> According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which > gave the differences in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites. > I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure. Nor am I. Maybe it is this paper by Rubin: RUBIN A.E. (1990) Kamacite and olivine in ordinary chondrites: Intergroup and intragroup relationships (GCA 54, 1217-1232). In this paper Rubin gives ranges in mol%Fa and %Co in kamacite for H, L, and LL chondrites. Jeff should have more about that. Good night from Germany, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing
If anyone has a copy of this paper containing the differences between H, L, and LL chondrites please email me with it as I would be VERY interested in reading it. Then again, when I anybody it almost always ends up being Bernd "anybody" Pauli. Thanks, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing Hello Dave and list A year or so ago I found a web site that did electron microprobe analyses on mineral specimens for mining companies. I considered contacting them, but before I did I talked with Dr. David Kring, LPL, about what it would take to be an accepted classifier of meteorites. He found it very doubtful that the company I found would be qualified even if they were willing. Basically they would have to do classifications for a while and their data would have to be checked to ensure it was correctly done and interpreted. So you would need an accredited lab that would verify their classifications and vouch for their ability to get them correct. I believe Marvin Kilgore did this so he could classify material. As I recall Dr Kring's problem with the company I mentioned to him was that the high through put of analyses and the lower accuracy required for mining data would make it doubtful that they would able to meet the requirements of meteorite classification. The other problem is knowledge of meteorites and their classifications. According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which gave the differences in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites. I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure. Maybe Bernd can tell us. However there is no similar source of comparison for anything else. So there is no readily available logic tree that says if it meets a, b, j, and x it is a winonite. That makes it difficult for someone without a meteorite background to just jump into classification. A logic tree sounds like a good publishable paper to me if anybody is interested. In short, having the right equipment isn't the whole solution and may actually be the easiest part to accomplish. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing
Hello Dave and list A year or so ago I found a web site that did electron microprobe analyses on mineral specimens for mining companies. I considered contacting them, but before I did I talked with Dr. David Kring, LPL, about what it would take to be an accepted classifier of meteorites. He found it very doubtful that the company I found would be qualified even if they were willing. Basically they would have to do classifications for a while and their data would have to be checked to ensure it was correctly done and interpreted. So you would need an accredited lab that would verify their classifications and vouch for their ability to get them correct. I believe Marvin Kilgore did this so he could classify material. As I recall Dr Kring's problem with the company I mentioned to him was that the high through put of analyses and the lower accuracy required for mining data would make it doubtful that they would able to meet the requirements of meteorite classification. The other problem is knowledge of meteorites and their classifications. According to Dr Kring there was a paper published which gave the differences in the H, L, and LL ordinary chondrites. I think it was by Rubin but I am not sure. Maybe Bernd can tell us. However there is no similar source of comparison for anything else. So there is no readily available logic tree that says if it meets a, b, j, and x it is a winonite. That makes it difficult for someone without a meteorite background to just jump into classification. A logic tree sounds like a good publishable paper to me if anybody is interested. In short, having the right equipment isn't the whole solution and may actually be the easiest part to accomplish. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad
At 12:57 PM 1/25/02 -0800, Ron Baalke wrote: > > "Nakhla dog" on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two > different > > versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to > > me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of > words. > >I've have this on my website > > A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in > Egypt. The falls were > preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local > residents. > There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a > dog. Attempts > to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus far. > The stones from this meteorite fall ranged in size from 20g to 1813g, > and it is estimated a total weight of 10kg (22 pounds) had fallen. > >Kevin finds these statements unacceptable. He is entitled to his opinion. >These statements are accurate, concise and to the point. I see no reason >to change them. > >Ron Baalke > Hi Folks, If someone is going to start counting votes, mark me down a "yes" - Ron's statement on his website is acceptable. I'm sure that many of you will agree, that even though the attempt to authenticate the dog story is inconclusive at this point, we can accept the idea that it may become conclusive at some point in the future. Sounds fair to me. John Gwilliam >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list John Gwilliam Meteorites PO Box 26854 Tempe AZ 85285 http://www.meteoriteimpact.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad
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Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad (fwd)
I just wanted to add, I did consider Kevin's alternate wording, but I thought they were more ambiguous that what was currently on the page. No agreements were made, and we were still in the middle of the discussions. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad
> "Nakhla dog" on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two different > versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to > me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of words. I've have this on my website A rain of 40 stones fell from the sky in 1911 near Nakhla in Egypt. The falls were preceded by an appearance of a cloud and detonations, frightening local residents. There is an eyewitness account that one of the fragments hit a dog. Attempts to authenticate the dog story have been inconclusive thus far. The stones from this meteorite fall ranged in size from 20g to 1813g, and it is estimated a total weight of 10kg (22 pounds) had fallen. Kevin finds these statements unacceptable. He is entitled to his opinion. These statements are accurate, concise and to the point. I see no reason to change them. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper
Don't forget to feed them howardite, regolith keeps you regular. >From: "meteorite1.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:51:44 -0800 > >Since Murchison is an "upper" what do you use to relax them? Powdered >Chinga >as a "downer" & iron supplement? > >Sincerely, >Jim > >James Hartman >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >www.meteorite1.net >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) > >Authenticity Guaranteed >www.meteoritecollectors.org > > >- Original Message - >From: "Michael Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:48 PM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > Rhett, "Because why?"!!! > > > > OK! I'll tell you why! First I'll have to apologize to Michael >Cottingham > > because he introduced me to eating Murchison several years ago and > > I promised I wouldn't tell. Sorry Mike. I feed my turtles a diet of .1% > > Murchison Meteorite every day and a double dose on Friday. They run, > > jump and play lots more than your average turtle! They follow >instructions > > better > > and I found them to run at least 3.7 times faster than your average >turtle! > > They've been winning race after race! Now do you see the pertinence > > Rhett?? > > > > > > xoxoxox, MC > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Rhett Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:45 PM > > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > Because why? > > > > > > Rhett Bourland > > > www.asteroidmodels.com > > > www.asteroidmodels.com/personal > > > www.meteoritecollectors.org > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Casper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 12:44 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > Because. > > > > > > xox, MC > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Rhett Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:29 PM > > > Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the METEORITEcentral list? >Why > > are > > > > you telling us about turtles? > > > > > > > > Rhett Bourland > > > > www.asteroidmodels.com > > > > www.asteroidmodels.com/personal > > > > www.meteoritecollectors.org > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Michael > > > > Casper > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 7:46 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Michael Casper > > > > > > > > > > > > For IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE > > > > by I. M. Good > > > > Ithaca, NY > > > > 23 Jan 2002 > > > > > > > > "Meteorite Dealer goes to the races" > > > > > > > > Meteorite dealer and legend (in his own mind) Michael Casper > > > > will be attennding The 2002 Tucson Rock, Gem and Mineral Show in > > > > "Spirit". It appears that there is an "over-abundance" of new >material, > > > > another 100 - 200 new dealers (over last years 100 -200 newbies) and > > > > a decline in collectors. Prices have fallen in meteorite material so > > > > drastically that they make the fall in tech stocks seem mild. >Michael's > > > > newest endeavor is Turtle Racing! He is now a breeder of a champion > > > > bloodline of "Evil Bluebelly Terror Turtles" the fastest turtle the > > world > > > > has > > > > ever known! Good luck Mike! > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Good v.Bad
> > I was touched to read members' Steve Sach's words of regret, words that > aren't easy for any of us to write under any circumstances. > > My warm, fuzzy feeling was nuked by the message I just received from Ron > Baalke and I'm reminded of why people are cynical about their government and, > in a general sense, how hateful some people are, and why one can grow to > mistrust and lose all respect for others. > > Ron had privately sent me a change yesterday to the language surrounding the > "Nakhla dog" on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two different > versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to > me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of words. > > He replied back yesterday with a version that was accurate and acceptable, a > version he marked- "Better." This was followed by the same unacceptable > version from the day before now marked "I like this even better." > > I agreed to his, HIS, version #1 marked "Better," thanked him for his > efforts, and mentioned that this peaceful settlement should be announced to > you, the m-list for "closure." > > I have just received a response from Ron. He's refusing to accept HIS OWN > version of the story that I agreed with. The message reads in part, "Like I > said, I like this even better," followed by the version I'd refused twice. > > His message ends, "I already changed the phrasing a week ago anyway." > > Ron has never offered a shred of meaningful proof that the dog existed, and I > have in my files copies of support for my take on the dog from the most > senior and academic members of this list and from the world's great > meteoriticists. I'm honored by their interest. > > As for the dog, the story should and will exist as "a story," but it's > scientifically dead. > > I won't waste my time in the future entertaining the vacuous imaginations of > such an arrogant and duplicitous person as Ron Baalke. > > Kevin Kichinka > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] bubbly tektites
Hello Astro list and meteorite list, I discovered a few months ago as I was examining my tektite collection that one of the regular $5.00 pieces that you get from rock shops (indochinite?) has a bubble in it. The bubble is about 1 mm indiameter. Is a bubble like this rare? The tektite is an odd looking thing with huge pits (big enough to stick your finger in) on one side, and a light frothy texture on the other side. I have heard of bubbles in tektites before in an article I read somewhere. It said that the bubbles contain rarified ordinary air. If I remember correctly, this is believed to have resulted from the tektites forming in a column of low pressure air trailing the impacting meteorite. But wouldn't the low pressure air trailing the meteorite be dragged down from the upper atmosphere which has a different composition? I came up with a crazy alternative theory (I come up with a lot of these, too much spare time) that may eliminate this problem: In grade four, my teacher gave a science demonstration. She placed a metal container onto a hot plate, this heated the container and the air inside. Then she but a lid on the container and removed it from the heat source. As the air cooled it contracted, resulting in a lower pressure, the container collapsed. So, if a tektite solidified, somewhere under 2000 degrees, with a bubble in it, the air in the bubble would be at about 2000 degrees. Once the tektite solidified the air would be trapped in a bubble whose volume could no longer change. The air would still be at about 1500 degrees and when it cooled it would contract resulting in a low pressure within the bubble. Am I on to something or am I just crazy? Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote
I look for a nice Sikhote-Alin with numerous very little regmaglypts. Reasonable price; thank you. VincentRejoignez le plus grand service de messagerie au monde avec MSN Hotmail.Cliquez ici __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Good v.Bad
I was touched to read members' Steve Sach's words of regret, words that aren't easy for any of us to write under any circumstances. My warm, fuzzy feeling was nuked by the message I just received from Ron Baalke and I'm reminded of why people are cynical about their government and, in a general sense, how hateful some people are, and why one can grow to mistrust and lose all respect for others. Ron had privately sent me a change yesterday to the language surrounding the "Nakhla dog" on the website he administers for NASA. He offered two different versions for my review. One was the status quo and totally unacceptable to me, the other was less ambiguous and I suggested changing a couple of words. He replied back yesterday with a version that was accurate and acceptable, a version he marked- "Better." This was followed by the same unacceptable version from the day before now marked "I like this even better." I agreed to his, HIS, version #1 marked "Better," thanked him for his efforts, and mentioned that this peaceful settlement should be announced to you, the m-list for "closure." I have just received a response from Ron. He's refusing to accept HIS OWN version of the story that I agreed with. The message reads in part, "Like I said, I like this even better," followed by the version I'd refused twice. His message ends, "I already changed the phrasing a week ago anyway." Ron has never offered a shred of meaningful proof that the dog existed, and I have in my files copies of support for my take on the dog from the most senior and academic members of this list and from the world's great meteoriticists. I'm honored by their interest. As for the dog, the story should and will exist as "a story," but it's scientifically dead. I won't waste my time in the future entertaining the vacuous imaginations of such an arrogant and duplicitous person as Ron Baalke. Kevin Kichinka __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Terresterial VS. way out there testing
Dear Listees; How far from being a qualified meteorite testing lab is a good quality soils, water, and air testing lab. Lab has numerous gas chromatography, organics and inorganics, trace element testing equipt. microscopes, and some thin section equipment? Lab doesn't have experience with meteorites. Would this be the limiting factor, or is there much more to the picture? Lab is fully accredited and has been around quite a while (20 years). Any opinions are welcome. Thanks in advance, Dave Freeman Rock Springs, Wy __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Subject: Money
Subject: Money Money. It can buy a Bed But not Sleep It can buy a Clock But not Time It can buy you a Book But not Knowledge It can buy you a Position But not Respect It can buy you Medicine But not Health It can buy you Blood But not Life It can buy you Sex But not Love So you see money isn't everything. And it often causes pain and suffering. I tell you all this because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your pain and suffering So send me all your money and I will suffer for you. Cash is fine. xoxox, MC
[meteorite-list] Lost Grenta and Wooster Meteorites
--- Rick Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Their is a great research engine done by Bill Peck. > I > used the word "Lost" and came up with Plymouth > Wooster > etc. Wooster is right in my backyard. A man by the > name of Peter Williams found the meteorite at > Wooster > took it to the mint at Philly. The mint took a few > ounces to sample. Peter split and he has not been > seen > since. So out their somewhere since deceased is > Peter > Williams and his meteorite. This research came up by > going thru Yale. Bill helps you get in the door > .Bill's engine is at > > http://meteoritemaps.com/search/vocab-srch.html > > Bill's egine told me along with another book of the > LOST THIRD SECTION OF GRANTA See Results > > You entered: gretna > > gretna > In 1912 the gretna meteorite was found in Phillips > County, Kansas, USA. It is a Stone meteorite, > classified as a L5, Olivinehypersthene chondrite. > A stone, broken into three pieces, was found 12 > miles > N. of gretna. Two of the pieces weigh 36kg and > 22.7kg > and fit together, indicating the loss of a third > fragment, probably about 23kg. Described and > figured, > H.H. Nininger, Trans. Kansas Acad. Sci., 1936, 39, > p.172. Mentioned, A.D. Nininger, Pop. Astron., > Northfield, Minnesota, 1937, 45, p.449 (M.A. 762). > Olivine Fa25, B. Mason, Geochimica et Cosmochimica > Acta, 1963, 27, p.1011. May be synonymous with > Phillips County (stone) (q.v.). > Kansas > USA > > A search on the net turned this up at > > http://www.lasr.net/leisure/kansas/phillips/body.html > > Gretna - In 1915, 12 miles north, fossil hunter > George > Sternberg discovered a meteorite weighing 80 lb.. > Gretna was originally named Dana. > > The missing third section of Gretna! > > George Sternberg I found out was a great and fossil > hunter go to > > http://www.fhsu.edu/sternberg/family.html > > Later I found out by contacting Fort Hay State > University that their recpords show he did not start > working for them until 1927. So The missing Gretna > meteorite was passed off some where. Later I found > out > that a place has George Sternberg papers at > > http://www.glenbow.org/archhtm/sternberg.htm > > Research here might turn up where Grenta is. Whoever > would like to pick up the trail is free to do so. I > can't promise any results but Grenta and Peter > Williams are out their. Best of succes to you all > Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You
Steve Thank you very much for your letter. Where allowed to make mistakes and we all should have a place for understanding and forgivness. And when a person goes out of their way like you have you can only admire them more. Steve if you had such reseacrh on Plymouth my goodness some type type of compesation would need to be given to you. Have you ever heard of the "Chesapeake" the billion dollar gold treasure ship? The research was so good that they literally dropped the anchor on the ship the first day looking for it. Thousands of hours and millions of dollars were saved all due to research. I would like to talk to my associate and see what we can offer you in return for your research. Sometimes thou all the research in the world can be futile and just plain back breaking foot by foot work needs to be done. __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Kobe
Dear List Members, I have small samples of Kobe, Japan CK4. Contact off list if interested. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions
Hello all I have put a few auctions http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
