Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time
Dear Bob; First, there is a mistake in your question: Nobody says the universe was created from nothing. There is nothing called nothing. Nothing is what is not; i.e. what does not exist. Non-existance can never be turned into existance. What is correct is: The universe was created from a singularity; like a black hole; a condense matter in almost zero volume (space) and at almost zero time. Then this matter in this singularity blasted off in what is known as the big bang and it started expanding (and still). This expanding universe has in the future three options: 1- keeps expanding for ever (open universe), 2- conracts again at some point (closed universe), or 3- stops and stay static (flat universe). If it chooses 2 (depending on its mass density) it will return to the singularity again and maybe another big bang again and so on (pulsating universe). In either case, one may ask: what was there before this singularity? We can turn this question religious if you like, but if you dont prefer we can turn it into metaphysics, because our laws of physics and mathematics CAN NOT be applied for singularities. This question has been asked before to many religion leaders; What was God doing before He created the universe? And the answer usualy is: God created the universe AND time, and not: the universe in time. Away from religion, this question was the subject of intensive debate between Aristotle and Plato and their schools: Plato considers time to be created with the world, while Aristotle believes that the world was created in time, which is an infinite and continuous extension. Plato says: Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a dissolution of them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed after the pattern of the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as far as was possible; for the pattern exists from eternity, and the created heaven has been, and is, and will be, in all time. Aristotle believes that Platos proposition requires a point in time that is the beginning of time and there is no time before it. This is inconceivable for Aristotle who adopts Democritus notion of uncreated time and says: But so far as time is concerned we see that all with one exception are in agreement in saying that it is uncreated: in fact, it is just this that enables Democritus to show that all things cannot have had a becoming: for time, he says, is uncreated. Plato alone asserts the creation of time, saying that it had a becoming together with the universe, the universe according to him having had a becoming. Time for Aristotle is a continuum and it is always associated with motion, and as such, it cant have a beginning. He says that time is the number of movement in respect of the before and after, and is continuous In respect of size there is no minimum; for every line is divided ad infinitum. Hence it is so with time. Plato on the other hand cosiders time as the circular motion of the heavens, while Aristotle said it is not motion but the measure of motion and he says that it is like a circle , a structure that has no beginning or end and so is endless in both directions. Since everything in the world is finite, also time has to be finite and since it is continuous it has to be a circle because we cannot conceive of a first time; for any first time we could conceive of a time before that., so time has to be circular. Arsitotle says: Now since time cannot exist and is unthinkable apart from the moment, and the moment a kind of middle-point, uniting as it does in itself both a beginning and an end, a beginning of future time and an end of past time, it follows that there must always be time: for the extremity of the last period of time that we take must be found in some moment, since time contains no point of contact for us except the moment. Therefore, since the moment is both a beginning and an end, there must always be time on both sides of it. But if this is true of time, it is evident that it must also be true of motion, time being a kind of affection of motion. WE CONCLUDE HERE that time for Aristotle is circular and the world was created somewhere along this circle while for Plato time is continuous and was created with the world. Both views have unsolvable drawbacks. Ibn Arabi (1165 A.D.) shares the idea of a circular endless time with Aristotle and that it is a measure of motion, but he does not consider it as continuum. On the other hand Ibn Arabi agrees with Plato that time is created with the world and refuses Aristotles proposal that the world is created in time. In fact Plato was right when he considered time to be created, but Aristotle refused this because he could not conceive of a starting point to the world nor to time. Only after the theory of general relativity in 1915 that introduced the idea of curved time that
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time
Wow, that's totally true. You are knowledgeable in theoretical physics. Keep up the good work :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter From: M Yousef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 08:22:20 + Dear Bob; First, there is a mistake in your question: Nobody says the universe was created from nothing. There is nothing called nothing. Nothing is what is not; i.e. what does not exist. Non-existance can never be turned into existance. What is correct is: The universe was created from a singularity; like a black hole; a condense matter in almost zero volume (space) and at almost zero time. Then this matter in this singularity blasted off in what is known as the big bang and it started expanding (and still). This expanding universe has in the future three options: 1- keeps expanding for ever (open universe), 2- conracts again at some point (closed universe), or 3- stops and stay static (flat universe). If it chooses 2 (depending on its mass density) it will return to the singularity again and maybe another big bang again and so on (pulsating universe). In either case, one may ask: what was there before this singularity? We can turn this question religious if you like, but if you dont prefer we can turn it into metaphysics, because our laws of physics and mathematics CAN NOT be applied for singularities. This question has been asked before to many religion leaders; What was God doing before He created the universe? And the answer usualy is: God created the universe AND time, and not: the universe in time. Away from religion, this question was the subject of intensive debate between Aristotle and Plato and their schools: Plato considers time to be created with the world, while Aristotle believes that the world was created in time, which is an infinite and continuous extension. Plato says: Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a dissolution of them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed after the pattern of the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as far as was possible; for the pattern exists from eternity, and the created heaven has been, and is, and will be, in all time. Aristotle believes that Platos proposition requires a point in time that is the beginning of time and there is no time before it. This is inconceivable for Aristotle who adopts Democritus notion of uncreated time and says: But so far as time is concerned we see that all with one exception are in agreement in saying that it is uncreated: in fact, it is just this that enables Democritus to show that all things cannot have had a becoming: for time, he says, is uncreated. Plato alone asserts the creation of time, saying that it had a becoming together with the universe, the universe according to him having had a becoming. Time for Aristotle is a continuum and it is always associated with motion, and as such, it cant have a beginning. He says that time is the number of movement in respect of the before and after, and is continuous In respect of size there is no minimum; for every line is divided ad infinitum. Hence it is so with time. Plato on the other hand cosiders time as the circular motion of the heavens, while Aristotle said it is not motion but the measure of motion and he says that it is like a circle , a structure that has no beginning or end and so is endless in both directions. Since everything in the world is finite, also time has to be finite and since it is continuous it has to be a circle because we cannot conceive of a first time; for any first time we could conceive of a time before that., so time has to be circular. Arsitotle says: Now since time cannot exist and is unthinkable apart from the moment, and the moment a kind of middle-point, uniting as it does in itself both a beginning and an end, a beginning of future time and an end of past time, it follows that there must always be time: for the extremity of the last period of time that we take must be found in some moment, since time contains no point of contact for us except the moment. Therefore, since the moment is both a beginning and an end, there must always be time on both sides of it. But if this is true of time, it is evident that it must also be true of motion, time being a kind of affection of motion. WE CONCLUDE HERE that time for Aristotle is circular and the world was created somewhere along this circle while for Plato time is continuous and was created with the world. Both views have unsolvable drawbacks. Ibn Arabi (1165 A.D.) shares the idea of a circular endless time with Aristotle and that it is a measure of motion, but he does not consider it as continuum. On the other hand Ibn Arabi agrees with
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time
Then, Mr. Yousef, You are totally correct in saying all rocks are meteorites as well as all matter by a broad definition! Dirk RossTokyo But, on one point I disagree. Time doesn't exist. M Yousef wrote: Dear Bob; First, there is a mistake in your question: Nobody says the universe was created from nothing. There is nothing called nothing. Nothing is what is not; i.e. what does not exist. Non-existance can never be turned into existance. What is correct is: The universe was created from a singularity; like a black hole; a condense matter in almost zero volume (space) and at almost zero time. Then this matter in this singularity blasted off in what is known as the big bang and it started expanding (and still). This expanding universe has in the future three options: 1- keeps expanding for ever (open universe), 2- conracts again at some point (closed universe), or 3- stops and stay static (flat universe). If it chooses 2 (depending on its mass density) it will return to the singularity again and maybe another big bang again and so on (pulsating universe). In either case, one may ask: what was there before this singularity? We can turn this question religious if you like, but if you dont prefer we can turn it into metaphysics, because our laws of physics and mathematics CAN NOT be applied for singularities. This question has been asked before to many religion leaders; What was God doing before He created the universe? And the answer usualy is: God created the universe AND time, and not: the universe in time. Away from religion, this question was the subject of intensive debate between Aristotle and Plato and their schools: Plato considers time to be created with the world, while Aristotle believes that the world was created in time, which is an infinite and continuous extension. Plato says: Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a dissolution of them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed after the pattern of the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as far as was possible; for the pattern exists from eternity, and the created heaven has been, and is, and will be, in all time. Aristotle believes that Platos proposition requires a point in time that is the beginning of time and there is no time before it. This is inconceivable for Aristotle who adopts Democritus notion of uncreated time and says: But so far as time is concerned we see that all with one exception are in agreement in saying that it is uncreated: in fact, it is just this that enables Democritus to show that all things cannot have had a becoming: for time, he says, is uncreated. Plato alone asserts the creation of time, saying that it had a becoming together with the universe, the universe according to him having had a becoming. Time for Aristotle is a continuum and it is always associated with motion, and as such, it cant have a beginning. He says that time is the number of movement in respect of the before and after, and is continuous In respect of size there is no minimum; for every line is divided ad infinitum. Hence it is so with time. Plato on the other hand cosiders time as the circular motion of the heavens, while Aristotle said it is not motion but the measure of motion and he says that it is like a circle , a structure that has no beginning or end and so is endless in both directions. Since everything in the world is finite, also time has to be finite and since it is continuous it has to be a circle because we cannot conceive of a first time; for any first time we could conceive of a time before that., so time has to be circular. Arsitotle says: Now since time cannot exist and is unthinkable apart from the moment, and the moment a kind of middle-point, uniting as it does in itself both a beginning and an end, a beginning of future time and an end of past time, it follows that there must always be time: for the extremity of the last period of time that we take must be found in some moment, since time contains no point of contact for us except the moment. Therefore, since the moment is both a beginning and an end, there must always be time on both sides of it. But if this is true of time, it is evident that it must also be true of motion, time being a kind of affection of motion. WE CONCLUDE HERE that time for Aristotle is circular and the world was created somewhere along this circle while for Plato time is continuous and was created with the world. Both views have unsolvable drawbacks. Ibn Arabi (1165 A.D.) shares the idea of a circular endless time with Aristotle and that it is a measure of motion, but he does not consider it as continuum. On the other hand Ibn Arabi agrees with Plato that time is created with the world and refuses Aristotles proposal that the world is created in time. In fact Plato was right when he
[meteorite-list] Kakovy Meteorite
Keith inquired: Does anyone know the Modern Name of a Meteorite from Kakovy from before 1890 maybe Russia. Maybe this one? Kakowa, L6, veined Oravita, Romania 45° 08' N / 021° 40' E Fell 1858, May 19, 08:00 hrs After detonations, a stone of 577 grams was seen to fall (W. von Haidinger, Sitzungsbericht der Akad. Wiss. Wien, Math.Naturwiss. Kl., 1859, 34, p. 11). Amount and composition of Ni-Fe, G.T. Prior, Min. Mag., 1919, 18, p. 353. A chromite-feldspar intergrowth is figured, P. Ramdohr, GCA, 1967, 31, p. 1961. Olivine Fa23, B. Mason, GCA, 1963, 27, p. 1011. Or maybe: Guea (also called) Cacak - fell 1891 in Serbia - ungrouped Jelica (LL6) - also Serbia - fell 1889 - also called Chachak or Cacak Best regs, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time
In fact yes: time does not have a real existance, nor space. Existance can only be attributed to matter which, as it moves, produce the sense of time and space. We can go into a deeper off-list discussion abot this subject if you like. Cheers Mohamed .and time and space are also a consequence of natural bodies but time is something ilusionary that does not exist but is introduced by the motion of orbits and localized things when we ask about them by 'when', so time and space do not exist in reality but the existance is to the things that move and still., [Ibn Arabi, AlFutuhat AlMAkiyya: part II, Page 458, Line 1]. == - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M Yousef [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paradox; we need to understand time Then, Mr. Yousef, You are totally correct in saying all rocks are meteorites as well as all matter by a broad definition! Dirk RossTokyo But, on one point I disagree. Time doesn't exist. M Yousef wrote: Dear Bob; First, there is a mistake in your question: Nobody says the universe was created from nothing. There is nothing called nothing. Nothing is what is not; i.e. what does not exist. Non-existance can never be turned into existance. What is correct is: The universe was created from a singularity; like a black hole; a condense matter in almost zero volume (space) and at almost zero time. Then this matter in this singularity blasted off in what is known as the big bang and it started expanding (and still). This expanding universe has in the future three options: 1- keeps expanding for ever (open universe), 2- conracts again at some point (closed universe), or 3- stops and stay static (flat universe). If it chooses 2 (depending on its mass density) it will return to the singularity again and maybe another big bang again and so on (pulsating universe). In either case, one may ask: what was there before this singularity? We can turn this question religious if you like, but if you dont prefer we can turn it into metaphysics, because our laws of physics and mathematics CAN NOT be applied for singularities. This question has been asked before to many religion leaders; What was God doing before He created the universe? And the answer usualy is: God created the universe AND time, and not: the universe in time. Away from religion, this question was the subject of intensive debate between Aristotle and Plato and their schools: Plato considers time to be created with the world, while Aristotle believes that the world was created in time, which is an infinite and continuous extension. Plato says: Time, then, and the heaven came into being at the same instant in order that, having been created together, if ever there was to be a dissolution of them, they might be dissolved together. It was framed after the pattern of the eternal nature, that it might resemble this as far as was possible; for the pattern exists from eternity, and the created heaven has been, and is, and will be, in all time. Aristotle believes that Plato's proposition requires a point in time that is the beginning of time and there is no time before it. This is inconceivable for Aristotle who adopts Democritus notion of uncreated time and says: But so far as time is concerned we see that all with one exception are in agreement in saying that it is uncreated: in fact, it is just this that enables Democritus to show that all things cannot have had a becoming: for time, he says, is uncreated. Plato alone asserts the creation of time, saying that it had a becoming together with the universe, the universe according to him having had a becoming. Time for Aristotle is a continuum and it is always associated with motion, and as such, it can't have a beginning. He says that time is the number of movement in respect of the before and after, and is continuous In respect of size there is no minimum; for every line is divided ad infinitum. Hence it is so with time. Plato on the other hand cosiders time as the circular motion of the heavens, while Aristotle said it is not motion but the measure of motion and he says that it is like a circle , a structure that has no beginning or end and so is endless in both directions. Since everything in the world is finite, also time has to be finite and since it is continuous it has to be a circle because we cannot conceive of a first time; for any first time we could conceive of a time before that., so time has to be circular. Arsitotle says: Now since time cannot exist and is unthinkable apart from the moment, and the moment a kind of middle-point, uniting as it does in itself both a beginning and an end, a beginning of future time and an end of past time, it
[meteorite-list] Wanted: Peekskill
Anyone have Peekskill for sale or trade? Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Paradox
Just last month I was experimenting with the various flavors of Big Bang theories, trying to see which parameters and initial assumptions produced what we see today. Unfortunately, all of the universes I created either fell back into themselves rather quickly or suffered runaway inflation before any stars could form. Heck, it was all I could do to create stable Hydrogen atoms in a couple of the universes. I never did manage to get Helium (let alone heavier elements). I think I need to tweak the Weak Nuclear Force Constant a little bit. I'll keep you all posted. Bob MartinoCan you really name a star? http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ I look up to the heavens but night has clouded over no spark of constellation no Vela no Orion. -Enya __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions ended at few time
Hello all For the people is no go in Tucson, I inform my auctions at 18 hours ended, many the SaU 008 slices on auction, one of gr.16.8 and another of 2.4 gr. and others little, see here: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most falls on one date?
In a message dated 02-02-04 18:44:51 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know what the most witnessed falls were on any one day, including every year to date? I just need the month and the day of that month. Anne? , Bernd? Roman, If I was at home you would have your answer in minutes. But I am in Tucson with an ancient little laptop and no data base. Can you wait until next week to find out that fascinating bit of information??? Anne Black www.impactika.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most falls on one date?
At 06:46 PM 2/4/02 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know what the most witnessed falls were on any one day, including every year to date? I just need the month and the day of that month. Anne? , Bernd? Thanks in advance. Roman Jirasek Bernd has already provided the multiple falls for specific days. If instead you were looking for the fall counts totalled across years, the two top days are: June 30 -- with 8 falls May 26, June 20, October 13, December 10 -- each with 7 falls -- Philip R. Pib Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pibburns.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most falls on one date?
At 06:46 PM 2/4/02 -0500, you wrote: Does anyone know what the most witnessed falls were on any one day, including every year to date? I just need the month and the day of that month. Anne? , Bernd? Thanks in advance. Roman Jirasek Bernd has already provided the multiple falls for specific days. If instead you were looking for the fall counts totalled across years, the two top days are: June 30 -- with 8 falls May 26, June 20, October 13, December 10 -- each with 7 falls -- Philip R. Pib Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pibburns.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] morrocon meteorite
Does anybody know anything about the meteorite fragments that are for sale from Morocco? .35 a gram. I saw them at the gem show in Tucson at a couple of places but the dealers are apparently to busy to talk to me. I'm not even sure if they are from Morocco. Thanks, Rex
[meteorite-list] A little help?
Hi all... I've been lurking for a while reading posts, and the more I read, the more intrigued I become about hunting and collecting meteorites. I've been brushing up heavily on my geology and trying to lay my hands on any meteorite I come across so I can at least have an idea of what I'm searching for. But I do have a few questions maybe someone could help me with: I've never been 'out in the field' hunting. But I desperately want to go. Where in the USA would be a good place for a beginner to go? And is there any group trips or get together expeditions planned in the near future? What is a minimum number of days you should spend out searching? And even though I have a pretty good idea, what are the essential tools to take along? Please excuse my ignorance on some of these matters, I'm just trying to get starting in this fascinating area. Any help or direction you might give me will be welcomed and remembered. Thanks Troy
Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! ROCKS FROM SPACE Signed!
simon says we heard you the first time. From: Michael Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! ROCKS FROM SPACE Signed! Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:36:11 -0500 Come on people! I need you to bid on the books! Now hurry up and bid. SIMON SEZ CLICK AND BID. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 xoxox, MC Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More on most falls on one date
Excellent info, thanks very much Phil and Bernd. Best regards, Roman Philip R. Burns wrote: Bernd has already provided the multiple falls for specific days. If instead you were looking for the fall counts totalled across years, the two top days are: June 30 -- with 8 falls May 26, June 20, October 13, December 10 -- each with 7 falls Hello Roman, Pib, and List, Here are some further details: 9 falls: May 17 (3 falls doubful) - Jun 30 (1 fall doubful) 8 falls: May 26 (1 fall doubful) - Oct 13 (1 fall doubful) 7 falls: May 09 (1 fall doubful) - Aug 05 (2 falls doubful) Sep 04 (1 fall doubful) - Dec 10 6 falls: Feb 18 (1 fall doubful) - Apr 09 - Jun 12 - Jun 20 Jun 21 - Jul 10 - Jul 12 - Oct 05 - Oct 20 Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! ROCKS FROM SPACE Signed!
Yes, hurry and bid, they are cheaper in Tucson and he would hate you to get a good deal. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! Come on people! I need you to bid on the books! Now hurry up and bid. SIMON SEZ CLICK AND BID. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 xoxox, MC
Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! ROCKS FROM SPACE Signed!
It is true Farmer. They are cheaper in Tucson. How much exactly Farmer? But these people are not going to Tucson. Perhaps you can advise everyone how much a hardcover volume of "ROCKS FROM SPACE" signed by Richard and Dorothy should really be. Perhaps you can supply some signed copies Farmer? How much will you charge?Farmer you really are an idiot. Go suck on a taco. Michael Casper - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Michael Casper ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! Yes, hurry and bid, they are cheaper in Tucson and he would hate you to get a good deal. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! Come on people! I need you to bid on the books! Now hurry up and bid. SIMON SEZ CLICK AND BID. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 xoxox, MC
[meteorite-list] First seismic/meteorite recovery ???
http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteor.htm Go to the Project IN3 link and click __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] PROJECT IN3
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Re: [meteorite-list] Before you purchase a meteorite...
Darryl, my dear buddy Darryl. Why beat on a dead doggy? Bid on a book! Click below! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 xoxox, MC PS... Here is a magic Tucson auction money chant dance! Bingy Bangy dingy dingy dong Bumpa bumpa billy dilly dong Fifi Funka figgy figgy wong Ding Dang daly wily wily bong Repeat the above 3 times as you jump up and down start 2 days prior to auction and do it every hour. oxoxo, MC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:49 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Before you purchase a meteorite... ...consider that at the Macovich Auction in Tucson last year--- Bjorbole sold for $2/g Djati Pengilon sold for $3/g Richardton (with Nininger number) sold for $2.50/g Nariyelco didn't sell at $3/g There will be MANY extraordinary deals at this year's auction as well. That's a promise. Absentee bids accepted. mundrabilla http://www.macovich.com/auction/014-lot.html mighei http://www.macovich.com/auction/003-lot.html vigarano http://www.macovich.com/auction/037-lot.html Macovich.com Simply the greatest meteorite auction, ever. Sunday, February 10th __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! ROCKS FROM SPACE Signed!
$20.00 copy! Email me now. Mike - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: Michael Farmer Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! It is true Farmer. They are cheaper in Tucson. But these people are not going to Tucson. Perhaps you can advise everyone how much a hardcover volume of "ROCKS FROM SPACE" signed by Richard and Dorothy should really be. Perhaps you can supply some signed copies Farmer? How much will you charge?Farmer you really are an idiot. Go suck on a taco. Michael Casper - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Michael Casper ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! Yes, hurry and bid, they are cheaper in Tucson and he would hate you to get a good deal. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Michael Casper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed! Come on people! I need you to bid on the books! Now hurry up and bid. SIMON SEZ CLICK AND BID. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 xoxox, MC
