[meteorite-list] Tucson : Individuals lunar meteorites
Hi List ! We have finally our material arrived safely for the Tucson show. For those interested by Lunar meteorites, four individuals collected by us, are in display (and for sale ! ) in the room #316 at the Inn suite hotel. Note, we have cut more pieces of the main mass of ITQIY, remember this gorgeous unique achondrite collected by us. New Mars meteorites and ten different lunar meteorites are available in this place in part slices, full slices and thin sections. Meteoriticaly, Luc Labenne LABENNE METEORITES Meteorites for Science, Education Collectors http://www.lunar-meteorites.com http://www.labenne-meteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comets Get A Snowball's Chance
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,645982,00.html Comets get a snowball's chance A stream of comets is falling into the sun, writes Duncan Steel By Duncan Steel The Guardian (United Kingdom) February 7, 2002 Theory and observation go hand in hand in science. Until recently we were limited to a theoretical evaluation of just what is a snowball's chance in hell. But now we have experimental verification. As expected, the chance is essentially zilch. Comets are snowballs. Dirty ones, with rock and organic chemicals mixed in, but snowballs none the less. And hell, one imagines, is much like the sun's surface. With a temperature near 6,000 C, it's more than red-hot. Comets have a major obstacle to pass before they can plunge into the sun. Surrounding our local star is the corona, the multimillion-degree solar atmosphere that can only be seen during an eclipse, which occurs rarely. Satellite studies of the corona have enabled astronomers to see a multi tude of comets make their death plunge. To better understand the solar atmosphere and its effect on the terrestrial environment we need continuous monitoring. The solution is obvious, though costly. Produce an artificial eclipse using a satellite-borne telescope and a black disk to occult the sun. Several instruments of this type have flown, one of the most successful being Soho (the solar and heliospheric observatory), a joint project of ESA and Nasa. In the Soho image pictured, the large dark area straddling the centre results from the obscuring disk. The white circle inside it indicates the size of the sun. Several bright regions are seen around the disk's periphery, showing outward gas flows in the corona. But there is also an obvious bright streak at the lower right. This is a small comet. Successive satellite images, obtained in October, showed it to be falling into the solar furnace. Almost 400 comets have been identified using Soho. Although it is operated by professional teams, they are mostly interested in solar physics. This means that many comets pass unnoticed and remain in archives for years before amateurs identify possible comets. Champion among these is Michael Oates, a member of the Manchester Astronomical Society. He has found well over a hundred comets in Soho images. Although Soho detects some comets near the sun that will turn around and pass outwards again most are seen in their death throes. Many are so small, not much bigger than a house, that they hardly deserve to be called comets. They produce a detectable trail because as the intense solar radiation causes their constituent ice to evaporate, dust is released, which scatters sunlight. These tiny comets, often called sungrazers, are interesting because the majority seem to follow almost the same path. That is, they appear to be fragments of a much larger comet that broke apart millennia ago. We saw the same sort of thing happen, on a smaller scale, a few years ago. Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 was found in orbit around Jupiter, apparently having broken apart in 1992, just before its discovery, when it flew too close to the planet. By the time of the collision with Jupiter in July 1994, its 20-odd major fragments had separated sufficiently for the fireworks to continue for more than a week. With sungrazer comets, the spreading is much greater. In the late 19th century, Heinrich Kreutz, working in Kiel, Germany, noted the orbital similarity of several bright comets observed in the preceding decades. They became known as the Kreutz group, but until Soho entered operation at the end of 1995 it was never suspected how many individual members the complex might contain. There are certainly tens of thousands to be found, and the parent of the swarm must have been a behemoth, more than a hundred kilometres in size and so over a thousand times the mass of Comet Halley. The history of the Kreutz parent breakup is gradually being pieced together. To explain the fragment dispersion, a time scale of at least 10,000 years is required, but there have been subsequent disintegration events. In 372 BC the Greek astronomer Ephorus saw a bright comet break asunder. One of its two daughters seems to have been observed again about every 350 years since, the other taking 700 years. Each time subsidiary splits have taken place, the stream of debris has built up. But why do comets split? Some fall apart for no apparent reason. Shoemaker-Levy 9 was torn into pieces by the tidal force of Jupiter's gravity when it strayed too close. But what causes them to fall apart is apparently thermal stress. As each split occurs, more of the ice is exposed, and the fragments get smaller until on the next visit they vaporise. Giant comets such as the Kreutz progenitor exist, and when they split, they leave myriad smaller bodies zipping through space, each potentially lethal. Although the Kreutz comets have orbits crossing that of the Earth, their orientation is such that they
[meteorite-list] Large Gold Basin + Lost Creek
Hi All, I sent this message nearly 18 hours ago, but it never showed up on the list -- a first. Perhaps the list filter is now filtering out meteorite-related posts... ;-) -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Large Gold Basin + Lost Creek Hi All, I don't often offer meteorites on eBay, and have never advertised those auctions here, but with so many people in Tucson starting this week, I thought I'd plug a fairly large Gold Basin individual that I put up a couple days ago: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsitem=1071271325 (If the link gets split up, the eBay item # is 1071271325). This weighed 160.2 grams prior to cutting. It's a nice stone with a couple armored chondrules visible in the polished face. Exact find coordinates will be supplied to the winner. Also, if anyone is interested in some of the new Lost Creek (proposed name) H3.8 chondrite from Kansas, I have a number of reasonably thin slices already cut, and will be cutting more in the coming days. Only a handful of American H3's are ever available to private collectors, and if you do a little web searching you'll discover that the cheapest of these sells for $9/g. At just over 4 kilos mass, Lost Creek has less than a tenth the TKW of that particular H3. I'm offering Lost Creek in the $10-$15/gram price range (depending on size). The meteorite should appear in the 2002 Meteoritical Bulletin -- I personally donated and delivered half the 46+ gram type specimen to UCLA, so the only remaining step is NomComm approval of the name. Cheers, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Hi Mr. Casper, It's been a few years since I have had contact with you (or theM.C.List) I was band from the list for life. I go and check the threads here and there and I saw they were giving it to ya like always. Not long after I was band from the list you sold your company. About 6 months after that, there was not one new fall worth a crap on the market. That's when it hit me! You were the SOURCE! Now the market is flooded with the NWAs and Saharas. I'm sorry you got out and thanks for the great job you did. If it was not for you and your connections, all i would have been able to buy would have been junk. Thanks Again, Mark S Jackson 2617 Keller Ave Norfolk Va. 23509
RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
Wow. That's nice Mikey. Why exactly are you sharing this with us? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Hi Mr. Casper, It's been a few years since I have had contact with you (or theM.C.List) I was band from the list for life. I go and check the threads here and there and I saw they were giving it to ya like always. Not long after I was band from the list you sold your company. About 6 months after that, there was not one new fall worth a crap on the market. That's when it hit me! You were the SOURCE! Now the market is flooded with the NWAs and Saharas. I'm sorry you got out and thanks for the great job you did. If it was not for you and your connections, all i would have been able to buy would have been junk. Thanks Again, Mark S Jackson 2617 Keller Ave Norfolk Va. 23509 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
Wow Mikey, when it comes to insults yours just keep getting better and better! Then again, considering your remarks yesterday and what you just said in this email makes me wonder how well you know the female anatomy. Oh well Mikey, with all your money that for some reason you feel the need to always tell us about that makes it all ok, right? Don't worry Mikey, it'll all be ok. Best wishes, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: Michael Casper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) because you're a douche bag. - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Wow. That's nice Mikey. Why exactly are you sharing this with us? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Hi Mr. Casper, It's been a few years since I have had contact with you (or theM.C.List) I was band from the list for life. I go and check the threads here and there and I saw they were giving it to ya like always. Not long after I was band from the list you sold your company. About 6 months after that, there was not one new fall worth a crap on the market. That's when it hit me! You were the SOURCE! Now the market is flooded with the NWAs and Saharas. I'm sorry you got out and thanks for the great job you did. If it was not for you and your connections, all i would have been able to buy would have been junk. Thanks Again, Mark S Jackson 2617 Keller Ave Norfolk Va. 23509 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
"THE BAND FROM THE LIST" No silly! It's a rock group! I think Darryl Pitt manages them. I beleive thay're performing at the auction in Tucson this saturday. MC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Mark Jackson writes: I was band from the list for life. It was for terminal spelling/grammar errors, if I recall correctly. ;-) Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
Hey MC, I sent this message to Rhett Bourland. Couldn't send it to the m-list, or else I would of. Feel free to do what you want with it... Best.. J. Rhett, I'm doing this for your own good. You need to quit embarrassing yourself on the meteorite list. There are many lurkers on the list who have been around meteorites a very very long time. Most of the people you see posting to the list, like yourself, haven't been around all that long, and really don't know squat about the meteorite market. One of the reasons you can afford meteorites is Michael Casper. One of the reasons certain meteorites are now available is Michael Casper. If you really ever want to see rock bottom killer deals on meteorites, the reason will be Michael Casper. So, to see a novice like yourself refer to Casper as Mikey, all you are doing is embarrassing yourself and showing your naiveté. Joel - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Wow Mikey, when it comes to insults yours just keep getting better and better! Then again, considering your remarks yesterday and what you just said in this email makes me wonder how well you know the female anatomy. Oh well Mikey, with all your money that for some reason you feel the need to always tell us about that makes it all ok, right? Don't worry Mikey, it'll all be ok. Best wishes, Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: Michael Casper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) because you're a douche bag. - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Wow. That's nice Mikey. Why exactly are you sharing this with us? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Hi Mr. Casper, It's been a few years since I have had contact with you (or theM.C.List) I was band from the list for life. I go and check the threads here and there and I saw they were giving it to ya like always. Not long after I was band from the list you sold your company. About 6 months after that, there was not one new fall worth a crap on the market. That's when it hit me! You were the SOURCE! Now the market is flooded with the NWAs and Saharas. I'm sorry you got out and thanks for the great job you did. If it was not for you and your connections, all i would have been able to buy would have been junk. Thanks Again, Mark S Jackson 2617 Keller Ave Norfolk Va. 23509 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks)
Hey MC, I sent this message to Rhett Bourland. Couldn't send it to the m-list, or else I would of. Feel free to do what you want with it... Best.. J. Rhett, I'm doing this for your own good. You need to quit embarrassing yourself on the meteorite list. There are many lurkers on the list who have been around meteorites a very very long time. Most of the people you see posting to the list, like yourself, haven't been around all that long, and really don't know squat about the meteorite market. One of the reasons you can afford meteorites is Michael Casper. One of the reasons certain meteorites are now available is Michael Casper. If you really ever want to see rock bottom killer deals on meteorites, the reason will be Michael Casper. So, to see a novice like yourself refer to Casper as Mikey, all you are doing is embarrassing yourself and showing your naiveté. Joel - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Casper [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 5:25 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Wow. That's nice Mikey. Why exactly are you sharing this with us? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Central List(stinks) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Meteorite Central List(stinks) Hi Mr. Casper, It's been a few years since I have had contact with you (or theM.C.List) I was band from the list for life. I go and check the threads here and there and I saw they were giving it to ya like always. Not long after I was band from the list you sold your company. About 6 months after that, there was not one new fall worth a crap on the market. That's when it hit me! You were the SOURCE! Now the market is flooded with the NWAs and Saharas. I'm sorry you got out and thanks for the great job you did. If it was not for you and your connections, all i would have been able to buy would have been junk. Thanks Again, Mark S Jackson 2617 Keller Ave Norfolk Va. 23509 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tsunamis and meteorite impacts
I just finished reading an excellent book by Edward Bryant, called Tsunami: the Underrated Hazard Chapter 8 is entirely devoted to ocean meteorite and comet impacts, and the geologic evidence for same. Fascinating reading, informative but not so technical you have trouble with it. Highly recommended. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite concentration by glaciers - A METEORITE TOPIC!
Hello people, I came up with an idea about how meteorites could be concentrated by glaciers in Canada and other places where there has been glacial activity. I have it on my site @: http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/methunt.html Go to the 3rd paragraph. Tell me what you think. I need opinions. Also, I posted an E-mail called bubbly tektites a while ago and I didn't get any replies. Did it get out or should I try sending it again? Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mr. Casper
Thank you Rick! It is true! The air is thin up here. Hey Rick! Do you have a signed copy of ROCKS FROM SPACE? If you don't, you should get one. CLICK BELOW! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1071093192 If you get one I'll throw in a signed copy of my YEAR 2000 Colour Catalogue! ALSO SIGNED!!! oxoxoxoxox, Thanks Pal!, MC - Original Message - From: Rick Nowak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mr. Casper I think Mr Casper is a really intellgant guy. Only 3 people out of 100 have what it takes to be a millionaire. What separates a man that makes $10,000 a year from a man that makes $100 or plus??? Your THINKING MIND SET and EM0TIONS. I think he is just bored and showing us to lighten up and have fun. I was about to be lynched mobbed by some people over the Plymouth thing and his comments showed he was a friend. So rat and rave Mike your not blocked off my email Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite chat
For anyone interested I have set up a meteorite chat on MSN. All who can use chats can go to: http://chat.msn.ca/chatroom.msnw?rm=%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21Extraterestrial%20stones%21rhx=25232121212121212121212121212121212145787472617465726573747269616C5C6273746F6E657321 I will keep it running for a while. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Leonid Meteorite
I was wondering is their a documented for sure 100% meteorite that came from the comet Temple Tuttle?? We know that the Leonids come from this comet. Just maybe their is meteorite out their? Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Mohamed Constructive info
To Robert, Mohamed and list, Robert, that was a very nice reply you gave to Mohamed and certainly showed true patience and understanding and also great useful information in which he can use! I also can understand the frustration of the others and how they have given up on giving advise to someone who may not be paying attention. But then again, maybe Mohamed IS paying attention. I have re-read all of Mohamed's e-mails very carefully, and have notice that he is very careful to avoid using any: names of institutions, the name of the Meteorite Lab that is doing the testing, any personal information about where he went to school, who he is, etc; all in all, Mohamed has told us alot, but has not really said anything. All sizzle and no steak. He has however, succeeded in raising the wrath of list members, and that, to the end, may be the whole point. I'm going to go out on a limb a bit (like I've never done that before) and offer just a personal opinion that Mohamed is actually another list member who has done a really swell job of producing a hoax. A hoax that will be talked about and remembered for a very long time. A hoax that will bring speculation and unfortunately at the expense of Mohamed (or whoever it is), laughed about at Tucson, and on this list for months and years to come. I'm sure that other list members might have also had their doubts about Mohamed as well. But when you really analyze his e-mails and posts, something seems a bit fishy. I'm also sure that if Mohamed replies to this message for the list, he will do one of three things; 1) say a lot, but not really say anything revealing (so read carefully) or 2) Sincerely give us the true facts about who he really is, and his background. or 3) Remain silent, and let us just speculate. At any rate if Mohamed is another list member pulling a hoax---fun is fun, but to perpetuate solicitation of advise from others of the list who patiently go out of their way to give sage but unheeded advise---seems to go the way of an urban legend---your story just won't die. Mohamed, the forum is now yours. Best, Steven L. Sachs __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
