[meteorite-list] Carver
[meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana
Hi there, I have just read Mr. Norton's article in this quarter's Meteorite magazine on Putorana where he speculated that the iron in the basalt was derived from mantle plumes conducting iron from the core to the magma chambers in the lithosphere - I was just wondering how actually plausible that mechanism actually was. I thought that a more likely scenario for the creation of Putorana iron may have been the effect of a magmatic plume coming into contact with a highly carbonaceous sedimentary deposit and the iron compounds are then reduced to native iron (much in the same way that commercial iron is produced by reacting with coke). I accept that the sedimentary deposits would have to be subducted to quite some depths before the appropriate temperature and pressures arose, but it still seems more likely a scenario to me than a outer liquid core streamer of iron travelling a couple of thousand kilometres upwards, against gravity and still keeping the iron in a liquid enough state to mix with magma. Any ideas? I wonder if there is any overriding chemical evidence that the iron is sourced from the core rather than liberated as part of a reduction of mantle silicates and oxides (possibly the presence of Ni in the iron is the evidence that supports the core theory - I dunno!) Don't laugh at me if I have written a load of rubbish here! I need to learn and only by thinking about this stuff and making gaffs will I learn anything - some of you people out there know more about Geology than I will EVER learn, so I bow to your undeniably profound knowledge!!! Ideas/opinions please! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Question on Carver
- Original Message - From: meteorite1.net To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: Question on Carver Hello list, Does anyone have a smallish slice of Carver for sale. Jim
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Eagle Butte - Dr. Schimpf and the RoyalTyrell Museum
Hi listees so the mystery deepens my 2 dhirams worth PhD Phallus Deficiency syndrome T L Turrets? emaiL syndrome as she seems to enjoy the odd misspell ( kettle calling ! ) Iwonder if the trustee is in fact a trusty at another kind of more closed institution. and the worst of all for mankind the beastrix has already spawned ! save yourselves take cover :`) Col - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Eagle Butte - Dr. Schimpf and the Royal Tyrell Museum In regard to the rather astonishingly crude and unprofessional emails Matteo has been receiving from the self-styled member of the Board of Trustees of the Royal Tyrell Museum in Alberta, I sent a polite email to the Museum, explaining the situation in nonaccusatory terms, and asking about Dr. Schimpf's relationship, if any, to the institution. They have very kindly emailed me back, as follows. The response is not surprising, but gratifying to know. Hmmm, I just might have a few spare moments to write a little colorful email todayMatteo, what was that email address for Dr. Schimpf, again?! (Anyone else?) Gregory __ _ Dear Mr. Wilson, In response to your recent email, the Royal Tyrrell Museum is not governed by a board of trustees. Our Cooperating Society, which is a non-profit organization which supports the operation of the Museum, is made up of a 10-member board. However, T.L. Schimpf is not one of its members - nor have we heard of this individual. The Royal Tyrrell Museum focuses on Alberta's palaeontological history and is not directly involved in the study or exhibition of meteorites. I hope this clears up any misunderstandings. Sincerely, Marty Eberth Media and Community Relations Royal Tyrrell Museum PO Box 7500 Drumheller, Alberta, Canada T0J 0Y0 __ Dear good Museum folks, A person by the name of T.L. Schimpf has been defending the sale of an alleged Canadian meteorite on ebay, named Eagle Butte. This meteorite name is not recognized by the Meteoritical Society, and potential buyers have been emailing this person accordingly, questioning the meteorite's authenticity. There have alledgedly been email responses from this Dr. Schimpf, who claims to be on your Museum's Board of Trustees, which have been threatening, obscene and astonishingly unprofessional. If this person is not associated with your Museum, and is merely dishonestly claiming to be, I think it's important that you know that someone is fraudulently representing you. And if this person does represent your Museum (and is doing such a poor job of it) and is knowingly endorsing the sale of a fraudulent meteorite, I would think you would want to know that, too. Either way, it appears your good Museum may have a problem. Those of us concerned are only interested in establishing the truth, so I welcome your comments. Thank you very much. Gregory Wilson I.M.C.A. #5877 2118 Wilshire Blvd #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Newly Spotted Comet Will Soon Grace NightSkies (Comet C/2002 C1 - Ikeya-Zhang)
Hi Al and gang, I know I'm a few days late on this thread but I wasn't disappointed with Halley at all in '86, it was the first comet I saw with my own eyes and I was blown away. Of coarse Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp blew it away but still in all Halley put on a fine show for me here in N.Y. Better than I thought it would. And there are a number of my Hale-Bopp photos on Ron's Hale-Bopp JPL site. Thanks once again Ron! Regards, Tom Randall IMCA# 6170 Hi Ron and all, Ron Baalke wrote: The 1986 appearance of Halley's comet, considered disappointing by many, also peaked at around magnitude 3.0 Although the news media hyped up Comet Halley, comparing it to its 1910 return which was favorable, to most astronomers the brightness was much better than expected even though it wasn't a favorable return that year and being farther from the Earth. So generally people were disappointed, thanks to the news media but astronomers weren't disappointed with the show overall. --AL -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Can't seem to post???
Hi Art: I cannot seem to post to the list...and have only seen maybe four postings per day last several days. Is something wrong? Very Best Regards; Jake __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana
Dear Entropy and other Listees, On this one, I side with gentle decay. Humbug, etc. to the knowledge against the probability of physics! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Dave Harris wrote: Hi there, I have just read Mr. Norton's article in this quarter's Meteorite magazine on Putorana where he speculated that the iron in the basalt was derived from mantle plumes conducting iron from the core to the magma chambers in the lithosphere - I was just wondering how actually plausible that mechanism actually was. I thought that a more likely scenario for the creation of Putorana iron may have been the effect of a magmatic plume coming into contact with a highly carbonaceous sedimentary deposit and the iron compounds are then reduced to native iron (much in the same way that commercial iron is produced by reacting with coke). I accept that the sedimentary deposits would have to be subducted to quite some depths before the appropriate temperature and pressures arose, but it still seems more likely a scenario to me than a outer liquid core streamer of iron travelling a couple of thousand kilometres upwards, against gravity and still keeping the iron in a liquid enough state to mix with magma. Any ideas? I wonder if there is any overriding chemical evidence that the iron is sourced from the core rather than liberated as part of a reduction of mantle silicates and oxides (possibly the presence of Ni in the iron is the evidence that supports the core theory - I dunno!) Don't laugh at me if I have written a load of rubbish here! I need to learn and only by thinking about this stuff and making gaffs will I learn anything - some of you people out there know more about Geology than I will EVER learn, so I bow to your undeniably profound knowledge!!! Ideas/opinions please! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Puzzling Putorana
---BeginMessage--- Decaying Dave and Gentle List Members: For an informative article on the Russian region of Putorana, check out October, 2000 (I'm a little behind in my reading) National Geographic. A place of very weird geology could produce a rock as weird as Putorana. And if you love hangin' close to erupting volcanos like I do, you'll love the following feature about some crazies who rappel down the cone of red-hot Marum Volcano in Vanuatu. Ever pick up a fresh, hot-out-of-the-oven rock? Kevin Kichinka ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] NWA978 and El Tigre
Dear list I have two enquiries 1. I just got on E-bay a slice of NWA978. A beautiful R3, no doubt! However the seller just mention "classified by UCLA". Is someone aware of a published account on this rare NWA? I am wondering about pairing with NWA573... 2. a fellow collector has got a while ago from a US dealer: El Tigre Mexico 1993 Dec. 23 L6 however it is not officially declared, a surprising situation for a meteorite fallen 8 years ago. Anyone knows about this meteorite? (it looks effectively like a fresh L6) Thanks in advance! Pierre __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A NEW METEORITE DISCOVERY !!!!
The Midnight Meteorite- This is a 19 TON unclassified not catalogued meteorite!!! Would this be the largest meteorite in North America??? I thought the largest in America was found in Nebraska at 2,360 pounds.If so let me know.IMS contacted the city major of Lynchburg and asked for 246 grams of the meteorite for testing and classification. We came upon this meteorite while conducting meteorite recovery efforts via the internet. Here is the write up. Pictures of the dig and the meteorite itself can be seen at the url at the bottom. Check out the worlds only zero gravity cavern-wow!! The Midnight Meteorite It came from out of nowhere on the night of June 12, 1886, missing the newly-dedicated Court House by only fifty yards, landing in an adjacent vacant lot. The violent impact woke up the whole town, and left a crater approximately 25 feet deep. In the weeks that followed, the 19-ton meteorite was excavated (see photo, left) and moved to its current location on the East bank of the James River at the foot of Ninth Street. In 1912, The Daughters of the American Revolution attached a plaque to the heavenly body, marking the site of John Lynch's Ferry and Lynchburg's first house. http://www.retroweb.com/lynchburg/attractions/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Largest Meteorite Now in North America????
The Midnight Meteorite- This is a 19 TON unclassified not catalogued meteorite!!! Would this be the largest meteorite in North America??? I thought the largest in America was found in Nebraska at 2,360 pounds.If so let me know.IMS contacted the city major of Lynchburg and asked for 246 grams of the meteorite for testing and classification. We came upon this meteorite while conducting meteorite recovery efforts via the internet. Here is the write up. Pictures of the dig and the meteorite itself can be seen at the url at the bottom. Check out the worlds only zero gravity cavern-wow!! The Midnight Meteorite It came from out of nowhere on the night of June 12, 1886, missing the newly-dedicated Court House by only fifty yards, landing in an adjacent vacant lot. The violent impact woke up the whole town, and left a crater approximately 25 feet deep. In the weeks that followed, the 19-ton meteorite was excavated (see photo, left) and moved to its current location on the East bank of the James River at the foot of Ninth Street. In 1912, The Daughters of the American Revolution attached a plaque to the heavenly body, marking the site of John Lynch's Ferry and Lynchburg's first house. http://www.retroweb.com/lynchburg/attractions/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana
If anybody wants some Putorana, email me. matt morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Harris Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:17 AM To: metlist Subject: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana Hi there, I have just read Mr. Norton's article in this quarter's Meteorite magazine on Putorana where he speculated that the iron in the basalt was derived from mantle plumes conducting iron from the core to the magma chambers in the lithosphere - I was just wondering how actually plausible that mechanism actually was. I thought that a more likely scenario for the creation of Putorana iron may have been the effect of a magmatic plume coming into contact with a highly carbonaceous sedimentary deposit and the iron compounds are then reduced to native iron (much in the same way that commercial iron is produced by reacting with coke). I accept that the sedimentary deposits would have to be subducted to quite some depths before the appropriate temperature and pressures arose, but it still seems more likely a scenario to me than a outer liquid core streamer of iron travelling a couple of thousand kilometres upwards, against gravity and still keeping the iron in a liquid enough state to mix with magma. Any ideas? I wonder if there is any overriding chemical evidence that the iron is sourced from the core rather than liberated as part of a reduction of mantle silicates and oxides (possibly the presence of Ni in the iron is the evidence that supports the core theory - I dunno!) Don't laugh at me if I have written a load of rubbish here! I need to learn and only by thinking about this stuff and making gaffs will I learn anything - some of you people out there know more about Geology than I will EVER learn, so I bow to your undeniably profound knowledge!!! Ideas/opinions please! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: A NEW METEORITE DISCOVERY !!!!
The Midnight Meteorite- This is a 19 TON unclassified not catalogued meteorite!!! Would this be the largest meteorite in North America??? Sure . . . and it's right next to The Town that Doesn't Exist, The World's Only 'Star Trek' Church, and the Weeping Jesus Rock. Lynchburg looks like a pretty nutty place. geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA978 and El Tigre
Hello Pierre and all, As far as I know there is no published data on NWA 978. It was purchased by Mike Farmer in Morocco during July of this year. UCLA did the classification and I assume it will be published in this years Meteoritical Bulletin. (I keep hoping for a preview on their website). At any rate, I have that NWA 978 is classified as a R3.8, S3/W2 whereas NWA753 is a R3.9, S2/W2 so they differ slightly in shock stage and petrographic grade. Also, for what it worth, the matrix color on my pieces of these two R-chondrites differs: it is brownish in NWA 978 and it is appears greenish in NWA 753. Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: rochette To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA978 and El Tigre Dear list I have two enquiries 1. I just got on E-bay a slice of NWA978. A beautiful R3, no doubt! However the seller just mention classified by UCLA. Is someone aware of a published account on this rare NWA? I am wondering about pairing with NWA573... 2. a fellow collector has got a while ago from a US dealer: El Tigre Mexico 1993 Dec. 23 L6 however it is not officially declared, a surprising situation for a meteorite fallen 8 years ago. Anyone knows about this meteorite? (it looks effectively like a fresh L6) Thanks in advance! Pierre __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I'am totally to blame........
The midnight meteorite is NOT a meteorite. I am totally to blame for this and take full responbility for my actions. The buck stops here. Rick __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2003 Meteorite Calendar
Pictures are pouring in for the 2003 Meteorite Calendar. See below: www.meteoritelabels.com/2003.html Best regards, Roman Jirasek __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Fair Project
Dear Alex, Please keep us all posted on the results of your science experiment here at the Meteorite List. There was an article in a recent issue of Meteorite! magazine about using crushed up meteorites as potting soil for seedlings, to see if they would be a good medium for growing things. If you find out anything new, maybe you can write up your experiment and submit it as a followup to the first magazine article! :-) Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana
This theory makes sense to me. I'll have to go read Norton's article that is sitting on my heap of things to read someday, but I the idea of elemental iron from the core making it to the Earth's surface seems a bit far-fetched. Reduction of magmatic iron seems more plausible--but then I'm primarily a soft-rock geologist. Any geochemists have any thoughts on this? --Paul - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 4:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] puzzling Putorana Hi there, I have just read Mr. Norton's article in this quarter's Meteorite magazine on Putorana where he speculated that the iron in the basalt was derived from mantle plumes conducting iron from the core to the magma chambers in the lithosphere - I was just wondering how actually plausible that mechanism actually was. I thought that a more likely scenario for the creation of Putorana iron may have been the effect of a magmatic plume coming into contact with a highly carbonaceous sedimentary deposit and the iron compounds are then reduced to native iron (much in the same way that commercial iron is produced by reacting with coke). I accept that the sedimentary deposits would have to be subducted to quite some depths before the appropriate temperature and pressures arose, but it still seems more likely a scenario to me than a outer liquid core streamer of iron travelling a couple of thousand kilometres upwards, against gravity and still keeping the iron in a liquid enough state to mix with magma. Any ideas? I wonder if there is any overriding chemical evidence that the iron is sourced from the core rather than liberated as part of a reduction of mantle silicates and oxides (possibly the presence of Ni in the iron is the evidence that supports the core theory - I dunno!) Don't laugh at me if I have written a load of rubbish here! I need to learn and only by thinking about this stuff and making gaffs will I learn anything - some of you people out there know more about Geology than I will EVER learn, so I bow to your undeniably profound knowledge!!! Ideas/opinions please! -- In gentle decay, dave IMCA #0092 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.meteoritecollectors.org I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: A NEW METEORITE DISCOVERY !!!!
I don't know, I think it sounds like a rather fun place to visit!!! :) Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 11:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: A NEW METEORITE DISCOVERY The Midnight Meteorite- This is a 19 TON unclassified not catalogued meteorite!!! Would this be the largest meteorite in North America??? Sure . . . and it's right next to The Town that Doesn't Exist, The World's Only 'Star Trek' Church, and the Weeping Jesus Rock. Lynchburg looks like a pretty nutty place. geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A New Use for Gold Basin
Hi 'List' Stumbled across this site... they even offer a "Attractor Pull" that will differentiate between Stony and Iron meteorites (for only $9.95 including postage and handling) ... the Meteorite Pain Relief includes chain ... http://www.moneymountainmining.com/ Have fun, Michael M
Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Meteorite Now in North America????
This is a 19 TON unclassified not catalogued meteorite!!! Until you do the former, it ain't the latter. (Where's Mohamed when you need him?)
